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Équipe: 2023-24 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 21 avr. 2022
Publié: 21 avr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
C goes to tarasenko
A's are schenn and Parayko
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
3900 000 $
31 050 000 $
3950 000 $
3950 000 $
88 000 000 $
87 000 000 $
8900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
57 000 000 $
33 500 000 $
31 000 000 $
31 000 000 $
31 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
Transactions
STL
  1. Provorov, Ivan (1 250 000 $ retained)
PHI
  1. Scandella, Marco
Détails additionnels:
Barbashev
2022 deadline
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
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Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
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M-NTC
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C, AD
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
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835 833 $835 833 $
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RFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
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UFA - 5
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
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UFA - 8
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
AG
RFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
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RFA - 2
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900 000 $900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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3 475 000 $3 475 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 7
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 4
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
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UFA - 4
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950 000 $950 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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21 avr. 2022 à 12 h 30
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Yeah don’t sign that Tarasenko contract
21 avr. 2022 à 12 h 33
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Quoting: STLBlues17
Yeah don’t sign that Tarasenko contract


Hes worth it tho
amazing in the offensive zone
capable in his own zone
and scores goals
21 avr. 2022 à 12 h 36
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Hes worth it tho
amazing in the offensive zone
capable in his own zone
and scores goals


He’s 31 when he’s signing this contract, expires at 36. Underlying numbers are still nowhere near pre-injury levels and brutal defensively. Not a guy who’s gonna age well.
21 avr. 2022 à 12 h 38
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He’s 31 when he’s signing this contract, expires at 36. Underlying numbers are still nowhere near pre-injury levels and brutal defensively. Not a guy who’s gonna age well.


oh i meant it to have it go till hes 35, maybe 7x3 with a captaincy guaranteed
21 avr. 2022 à 12 h 42
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oh i meant it to have it go till hes 35, maybe 7x3 with a captaincy guaranteed


Ehh, that’s reasonable but I still think he might get traded. I think his impact to this team is probably a bit overrated considering he leads the team in scoring. I’d take at least 4 forwards on this team over him rn.
21 avr. 2022 à 12 h 45
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Ehh, that’s reasonable but I still think he might get traded. I think his impact to this team is probably a bit overrated considering he leads the team in scoring. I’d take at least 4 forwards on this team over him rn.


Maybe I’m bais as he’s my fav players
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21 avr. 2022 à 12 h 48
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Maybe I’m bais as he’s my fav players


Haha that’s fair, it would be brutal to see him lace it up for someone else
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21 avr. 2022 à 12 h 55
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I'd do whatever it takes to keep the Buchy/Thomas/Tarasenko line together. They are doing things this team hasn't seen in 30+ years.
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21 avr. 2022 à 12 h 59
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The biggest problem will be the 2023 off season where we will have to let someone of
O’Reilly
Thomas
Kyrou
Tarasenko
Walk/trade. I think out of all of them tarasenko is the one to go but Oreilly is fine too, I just think that we will have to trade him/Senko and not let them walk
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21 avr. 2022 à 13 h 18
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Quoting: Easton_H
The biggest problem will be the 2023 off season where we will have to let someone of
O’Reilly
Thomas
Kyrou
Tarasenko
Walk/trade. I think out of all of them tarasenko is the one to go but Oreilly is fine too, I just think that we will have to trade him/Senko and not let them walk


Matt Tkachuk UFA year too.
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21 avr. 2022 à 13 h 21
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Maybe I’m bais as he’s my fav players


Philly wouldn't do this. Every team would offer this then
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Philly wouldn't do this. Every team would offer this then


Idk what that has to do with my comment but ok thx
21 avr. 2022 à 13 h 27
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Quoting: STLBlues17
He’s 31 when he’s signing this contract, expires at 36. Underlying numbers are still nowhere near pre-injury levels...

and brutal defensively.

Not a guy who’s gonna age well.


1- Heh. And how are his "overlying" numbers? tears of joy Analytics and situational stats are fun, but they still are not as important as actual counting stats. And people always ignore the most pertinent ones anyway (such as Vova being top 10 in the league in rush chances or him leading the team in PP assists).

2- People LOVE to say this all the time, but does no one really notice all the huge ass-busting defensive plays he makes? Again, don't put analytics over what happens on the ice. Analytics don't take into account the amount of goals a player stops from happening, which seems like a pretty important thing. Besides, Tarasenko is not the one on that line who still offers up crazy zone turnover gifts too frequently - but it does affect his analytic on-ice numbers.

3- Maybe, maybe not, but I'm not sure I'd bet against him staying productive for 3-4 more years. Those eastern European tank forwards tend to have a decent ratio of guys who stay damn good a long time (Ovechkin, Malkin, Jagr, Lang, Kovalev, etc.).
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1- Heh. And how are his "overlying" numbers? tears of joy Analytics and situational stats are fun, but they still are not as important as actual counting stats. And people always ignore the most pertinent ones anyway (such as Vova being top 10 in the league in rush chances or him leading the team in PP assists).

2- People LOVE to say this all the time, but does no one really notice all the huge ass-busting defensive plays he makes? Again, don't put analytics over what happens on the ice. Analytics don't take into account the amount of goals a player stops from happening, which seems like a pretty important thing. Besides, Tarasenko is not the one on that line who still offers up crazy zone turnover gifts too frequently - but it does affect his analytic on-ice numbers.

3- Maybe, maybe not, but I'm not sure I'd bet against him staying productive for 3-4 more years. Those eastern European tank forwards tend to have a decent ratio of guys who stay damn good a long time (Ovechkin, Malkin, Jagr, Lang, Kovalev, etc.).


I didnt even think about that 3rd point, Good one
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21 avr. 2022 à 14 h 8
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1- Heh. And how are his "overlying" numbers? tears of joy Analytics and situational stats are fun, but they still are not as important as actual counting stats. And people always ignore the most pertinent ones anyway (such as Vova being top 10 in the league in rush chances or him leading the team in PP assists).

I refuse to get into an analytics argument, but Tarasenko’s “career year” is extremely driven by him playing with by far the best linemates he’s ever had. Sure he works hard, but there’s a lot more than effort that goes into playing defense. Struggles immensely making positive plays on his backhand, slow decision making moving the puck on the half-wall, and prone to some turnovers. When defenseman step up, he folds. Not overly detrimental without the puck, but still bleeds chances against. Yes, he’s still and excellent offensive player, no arguing that.
21 avr. 2022 à 14 h 16
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but Tarasenko’s “career year” is extremely driven by him playing with by far the best linemates he’s ever had

Sure he works hard, but there’s a lot more than effort that goes into playing defense.

Struggles immensely making positive plays on his backhand, slow decision making moving the puck on the half-wall, and prone to some turnovers. When defenseman step up, he folds.

Not overly detrimental without the puck, but still bleeds chances against.



1- Gosh, you could say that about Buch and Thomas as well, huh? cool You kinda act like he's a passenger, which is ludicrous.

2- Like making defensive plays that save goals on the regular? You're kinda picking out one phrase to zero in on and ignoring the rest of the points.

3- All of this is either overwrought or I downright disagree with it. Tarasenko folds from physical play? Eh?

4- Oi vey. No one player "leaks chances" as you say. There's five skaters on the ice, man. Either way, the guy is up 10 for on-ice goals for-against against some of the toughest competition.

Now I'm not saying I'd choose to sign him to a 5x7, but I's also not get too down about it if they actually did.
21 avr. 2022 à 14 h 24
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Flyers decline. Provorov is worth significantly more than Barbashev, despite his career year
21 avr. 2022 à 14 h 25
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1- Gosh, you could say that about Buch and Thomas as well, huh? cool You kinda act like he's a passenger, which is ludicrous.

2- Like making defensive plays that save goals on the regular? You're kinda picking out one phrase to zero in on and ignoring the rest of the points.

3- All of this is either overwrought or I downright disagree with it. Tarasenko folds from physical play? Eh?

4- Oi vey. No one player "leaks chances" as you say. There's five skaters on the ice, man. Either way, the guy is up 10 for on-ice goals for-against against some of the toughest competition.

Now I'm not saying I'd choose to sign him to a 5x7, but I's also not get too down about it if they actually did.


Didn’t say he’s a passenger, but I think Buch and Thomas are more important to the success of that line. He doesn’t struggle physically, but really really struggles when he has to turn his back or take it on the backhand to receive passes coming out of the zone. If he gets time and space taken away, the puck won’t go forward. That’s his biggest issue and leads to a lot more zone time against. I think watching Perron vs Tarasenko is a good example of what 91 is bad at. I do think if he played LW his numbers would be better because he’d take all his passes on the forehand.
 
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