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Créé par: Marino4Norris
Date de création initiale: 3 avr. 2022
Publié: 20 avr. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Ansons, Raivis3750 000 $
Phillips, Clayton1750 000 $
Svejkovsky, Lukas3750 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Almari, Niclas2750 000 $
Almeida, Justin2750 000 $
Bellerive, Jordy2750 000 $
Björkqvist, Kasper2750 000 $
D'Orio, Alex2750 000 $
Drozg, Jan2750 000 $
Lee, Cameron2750 000 $
Reilly, Will2750 000 $
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier2900 000 $
Nylander, Alexander2900 000 $
Heinen, Danton22 000 000 $
Kapanen, Kasperi33 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Angello, Anthony1750 000 $
Rakell, Rickard54 000 000 $
Rust, Bryan65 500 000 $
Malkin, Evgeni37 000 000 $
Letang, Kris47 000 000 $
Fleury, Marc-André11 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. 2022 2e round pick (WSH)
DET
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
Rachats de contrats
  • Jack Johnson: 1 916 667 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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2023
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Logo de TOR
2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $82 441 667 $0 $0 $58 333 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Guentzel, Jake
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Crosby, Sidney
8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Rakell, Rickard
4 000 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
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Zucker, Jason
5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Malkin, Evgeni
7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Rust, Bryan
5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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O'Connor, Drew
750 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
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Carter, Jeff
3 125 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 2
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Kapanen, Kasperi
3 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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McGinn, Brock
2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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Blueger, Teddy
2 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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Heinen, Danton
2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Matheson, Michael
4 875 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
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Letang, Kris
7 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de PIT
Jarry, Tristan
3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
900 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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Marino, John
4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Fleury, Marc-André
1 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 2
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Dumoulin, Brian
4 100 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
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Ruhwedel, Chad
800 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de PIT
Nylander, Alexander
900 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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Zohorna, Radim
750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Friedman, Mark
775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Rakell, R.
Guentzel, J.
Crosby, S.
Letang, K.
Malkin, E.
Avantage numérique 2
Rust, B.
Carter, J.
Zucker, J.
Kapanen, K.
Matheson, M.
Infériorité numérique 1
McGinn, B.
Blueger, T.
Dumoulin, B.
Letang, K.
Infériorité numérique 2
O'Connor, D.
Carter, J.
Ruhwedel, C.
Marino, J.

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20 avr. à 10 h 32
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Getting greedy... a 3rd for Pettersson is the consensus value.
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20 avr. à 10 h 34
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Getting greedy... a 3rd for Pettersson is the consensus value.


Who agreed to this? I only hear this from Wings fans

Also, the difference between the Caps second and Wings third is ~15 picks, is it really a difference worth arguing over? Those slots are something like 30% chance to play 100 games vs. 25% chance
20 avr. à 10 h 35
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This team is not improved from last year at all. We are already struggling a ton with our roster as it, if we lose first round or even later I don't see the point of running it back. Signing Kapanen for 3.5 mil especially dosen't make sense and idk about keeping UFA's if we're out first round, at least not all of them
20 avr. à 10 h 37
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Who agreed to this? I only hear this from Wings fans

Also, the difference between the Caps second and Wings third is ~15 picks, is it really a difference worth arguing over? Those slots are something like 30% chance to play 100 games vs. 25% chance

The vast majority of other Pittsburgh ACGM posts.

I'm not saying those 15 picks would be a deal breaker, just pointing out that you're getting greedy, when the overwhelming consensus on this board, is that a 3rd is market value. Pittsburgh needs to shed cap and everyone knows it, so they are not in a position of leverage in negotiations. If anything, they might even need to take less as no one will be looking to do them a favor.
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20 avr. à 10 h 38
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This team is not improved from last year at all. We are already struggling a ton with our roster as it, if we lose first round or even later I don't see the point of running it back. Signing Kapanen for 3.5 mil especially dosen't make sense and idk about keeping UFA's if we're out first round, at least not all of them


At the same time, the roster has been good enough this year to be a contender despite injuries

Withholding judgment of the roster construction until they play five games with a full lineup
20 avr. à 10 h 38
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Red Wings decline
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20 avr. à 10 h 38
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Who agreed to this? I only hear this from Wings fans

Also, the difference between the Caps second and Wings third is ~15 picks, is it really a difference worth arguing over? Those slots are something like 30% chance to play 100 games vs. 25% chance


No you don't.

95% of all PIT ACGMs have Pettersson going to Detroit for a 3rd or less. Have a look at the ACGM right before yours as an example.
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20 avr. à 10 h 39
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Who agreed to this? I only hear this from Wings fans

Also, the difference between the Caps second and Wings third is ~15 picks, is it really a difference worth arguing over? Those slots are something like 30% chance to play 100 games vs. 25% chance


With Yzerman drafting it's a huge difference.
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20 avr. à 10 h 40
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At the same time, the roster has been good enough this year to be a contender despite injuries

Withholding judgment of the roster construction until they play five games with a full lineup


We are too old and slow. Also have no physicality which matters for playoffs and might be why we always get so many injuries. Need to get a little bigger/tougher and younger faster players as well. Our centers would be 36, 35, and 38 in this lineup. If we lose first round we need major change, it would be insanity to do the same thing again. Coaching change needs to be considered as well imo.
20 avr. à 10 h 40
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
The vast majority of other Pittsburgh ACGM posts.

I'm not saying those 15 picks would be a deal breaker, just pointing out that you're getting greedy, when the overwhelming consensus on this board, is that a 3rd is market value. Pittsburgh needs to shed cap and everyone knows it, so they are not in a position of leverage in negotiations. If anything, they might even need to take less as no one will be looking to do them a favor.


If there's more than one team interested in a player, they'll get fair value, even with cap constraints that's just how markets function

>1 team would be interested in Pettersson

Late second / early third is fair value imo but I don't see those as being wildly different enough to really argue it either way
20 avr. à 10 h 41
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We are too old and slow. Also have no physicality which matters for playoffs and might be why we always get so many injuries. Need to get a little bigger/tougher and younger faster players as well. Our centers would be 36, 35, and 38 in this lineup. If we lose first round we need major change, it would be insanity to do the same thing again. Coaching change needs to be considered as well imo.


Feel like that's a bridge to cross if they actually lose first round, not before
20 avr. à 10 h 42
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No you don't.

95% of all PIT ACGMs have Pettersson going to Detroit for a 3rd or less. Have a look at the ACGM right before yours as an example.


speaking from experience, think most people just put the third to avoid the argument, as evidenced from this thread

there's really not much of a difference value wise between the picks, so sure
20 avr. à 10 h 43
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With Yzerman drafting it's a huge difference.


historically there's really not
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
historically there's really not


Wrong
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20 avr. à 10 h 44
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Wrong


For your viewing pleasure: https://myslu.stlawu.edu/~msch/sports/Schuckers_NHL_Draft.pdf
20 avr. à 10 h 45
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Feel like that's a bridge to cross if they actually lose first round, not before


I don't think so personally. I feel like that is where we are headed. I would be shocked if we won first round, so I've started thinking about offseason already. Also with so many UFA's it is a conversation happening now. Even if we don't lose first round, we have way to many players struggling and a team is only as good as the sum of its parts. Kapanen, Carter, Dumo, Pettersson, Marino, Malkin, Zucker all not playing well. That for me is enough for some change.
20 avr. à 10 h 46
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Who agreed to this? I only hear this from Wings fans

Also, the difference between the Caps second and Wings third is ~15 picks, is it really a difference worth arguing over? Those slots are something like 30% chance to play 100 games vs. 25% chance


Detroit needs a stop gap dman for couple of seasons and there are plenty of options that won't cost more than a 3rd. So if Pittsburgh wants more than a 3rd Detroit will target someone else.
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20 avr. à 10 h 47
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Detroit needs a stop gap dman for couple of seasons and there are plenty of options that won't cost more than a 3rd. So if Pittsburgh wants more than a 3rd Detroit will target someone else.


this reads as your personal opinion, which you are welcome to have
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I don't think so personally. I feel like that is where we are headed. I would be shocked if we won first round, so I've started thinking about offseason already. Also with so many UFA's it is a conversation happening now. Even if we don't lose first round, we have way to many players struggling and a team is only as good as the sum of its parts. Kapanen, Carter, Dumo, Pettersson, Marino, Malkin, Zucker all not playing well. That for me is enough for some change.


I mean, Zucker hasn't really played
20 avr. à 10 h 49
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I mean, Zucker hasn't really played


He was struglging very badly before and unless he picks it up to end the season 5 mil is way too much to pay for that level of production. Some of these struggling players we could use that space to improve so much. Kapanen and one of the D gone would free up 7 mil alone.
20 avr. à 10 h 52
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He was struglging very badly before and unless he picks it up to end the season 5 mil is way too much to pay for that level of production. Some of these struggling players we could use that space to improve so much. Kapanen and one of the D gone would free up 7 mil alone.


This is an ACGM for this offseason so we really do have to base it on what we think will happen in playoffs. So just out of curiosity what do you think will happen? If we lose would this still be your roster? What do you think about potential coaching change or not re signing UFA's? Or even getting more physical/faster.
20 avr. à 11 h 1
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
this reads as your personal opinion, which you are welcome to have


I can say the same about this ACGM.
20 avr. à 11 h 23
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Detroit passes, a 3rd rounder for Pettersson or we go elsewhere. And Bryan Rust is getting closer to $7,000,000 x 7 years he's not signing that low ball offer. He wants to get paid.
20 avr. à 11 h 27
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No way do Kapanen and Rakell sign for that little, (or Rust and Fleury).
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Wings pass, better options for cheaper
 
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