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Créé par: Lights
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 16 avr. 2022
Publié: 16 avr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Lines are almost for sure wrong, so don’t harass me about that please lol
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
11 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
1900 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali [Droits de RFA]
  2. Robertson, Matthew
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Miller, J.T.
Détails additionnels:
Draft day. Value may be off.
2.
VAN
  1. Zadina, Filip [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (DET)
DET
  1. Boeser, Brock [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Saw trade concept once and I liked it
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de VAN
Logo de NYR
Logo de WSH
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
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Logo de VAN
2023
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de NYR
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de NYR
Logo de DET
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2024
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $67 301 667 $1 250 000 $1 150 000 $15 198 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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16 avr. 2022 à 22 h 16
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Pretty underwhelming returns tbh. Not to mention trading both Miller and Boeser without getting a good RHD in return would be a huge failure
16 avr. 2022 à 22 h 17
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I feel like given the cap situation going forward signing Copp may make the most sense. He’s not as good as Miller, but he’s already fit into the lineup really wel and doesn’t require a trade to be made. Plus he’s cheaper to extend then Miller as well which is really important.
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16 avr. 2022 à 22 h 46
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I’m personally not a huge Boeser fan. At 25 it doesn’t seem like he’ll hit that elite level and more likely be a top 6 guy who hovers around 50 points due to being injured every year. Sorta like Mantha. But, he’s a more sure thing than Zadina, and I still have hope for Zadina myself. At the cost of a 2nd and 4th it’s not horrible. What his next contract looks like might be the deciding factor if it makes sense for Detroit in the long run. Overall it’s a tough one, and being so probably means it’s fair.
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16 avr. 2022 à 22 h 56
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Boeser has a qualifying offer of 7.5 millions. He's not worth that kind of money.

Boeser only scores at the same rate as Fabbri and he costs only half the money.

I wouldn't trade anything for Boeser unless he's already signed to a contract for much less than he's making now. I don't even think VAN is going to qualify him but instead let him walk and if that happens we can get him in FA for nothing.
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16 avr. 2022 à 23 h 0
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Boeser has a qualifying offer of 7.5 millions. He's not worth that kind of money.

Boeser only scores at the same rate as Fabbri and he costs only half the money.

I wouldn't trade anything for Boeser unless he's already signed to a contract for much less than he's making now. I don't even think VAN is going to qualify him but instead let him walk and if that happens we can get him in FA for nothing.


Well said
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16 avr. 2022 à 23 h 4
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Boeser has a qualifying offer of 7.5 millions. He's not worth that kind of money.

Boeser only scores at the same rate as Fabbri and he costs only half the money.

I wouldn't trade anything for Boeser unless he's already signed to a contract for much less than he's making now. I don't even think VAN is going to qualify him but instead let him walk and if that happens we can get him in FA for nothing.


He’s had a bad season he’s. He’s still been scoring at a 30 goal pace his entire career. You realize he doesn’t have to sign a QO
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16 avr. 2022 à 23 h 10
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Boeser has a qualifying offer of 7.5 millions. He's not worth that kind of money.

Boeser only scores at the same rate as Fabbri and he costs only half the money.

I wouldn't trade anything for Boeser unless he's already signed to a contract for much less than he's making now. I don't even think VAN is going to qualify him but instead let him walk and if that happens we can get him in FA for nothing.


Boeser scores at a higher rate than Fabbri. 44 more goals and 96 more points in only 15 more games. He’s just having a down season this year. And it’s very likely he signs for less than his QO on a contract with more term
17 avr. 2022 à 0 h 50
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Quoting: Juiceman
He’s had a bad season he’s. He’s still been scoring at a 30 goal pace his entire career. You realize he doesn’t have to sign a QO


Yes I do realise that he doesn't have to sign a QO.

That's exactly the reason why I said "I wouldn't trade anything for Boeser unless he's already signed to a contract for much less than he's making now."

Without that contract signed though there is absolutely no guarantee that will sign anything with any team he's traded to and the only way to avoid him going UFA is to offer him those 7.5 millions.

Without a contract signed at a cap and salary that reflects his production his trade value is nil.
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17 avr. 2022 à 0 h 55
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Quoting: mv21227
Boeser scores at a higher rate than Fabbri. 44 more goals and 96 more points in only 15 more games. He’s just having a down season this year. And it’s very likely he signs for less than his QO on a contract with more term


Boeser scores at 0.59 PPG this season. Fabbri scores at 0.54 PPG this season.

No team is going to pay assets, like what's asked for here, for a player that can decide to go UFA within weeks of being traded and the only way to stop him is to offer him twice as much as he is worth.

How come you're not keeping him if he's so good and so easy to sign?
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17 avr. 2022 à 1 h 13
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Boeser scores at 0.59 PPG this season. Fabbri scores at 0.54 PPG this season.

No team is going to pay assets, like what's asked for here, for a player that can decide to go UFA within weeks of being traded and the only way to stop him is to offer him twice as much as he is worth.

How come you're not keeping him if he's so good and so easy to sign?


Zadina is scoring at 0.31 PPG this season. Is that really too big of an asset to give up?

As I said, Boeser is having a down season but has scored at a 65 point pace every year of his career before this season. And any team that were to trade for him would likely be able to negotiate a contract before the trade is official.

And do you seriously believe Boeser is only worth 3.75M?
17 avr. 2022 à 1 h 13
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Rangers are not trading for Miller, its just a pipe dream.
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17 avr. 2022 à 1 h 22
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Zadina is scoring at 0.31 PPG this season. Is that really too big of an asset to give up?

As I said, Boeser is having a down season but has scored at a 65 point pace every year of his career before this season. And any team that were to trade for him would likely be able to negotiate a contract before the trade is official.

And do you seriously believe Boeser is only worth 3.75M?


Zadina is 22 years old and is playing his first full season. Yes I think that's too much to give up for an unsigned player that may walk. Boeser isn't worth 7.5 millions and the only guaranteed way to keep him is to offer him that amount.

I don't think Boeser is worth much more than 5 million or thereabouts but until that contract is in place his trade value is nil.
17 avr. 2022 à 2 h 43
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Zadina is 22 years old and is playing his first full season. Yes I think that's too much to give up for an unsigned player that may walk. Boeser isn't worth 7.5 millions and the only guaranteed way to keep him is to offer him that amount.

I don't think Boeser is worth much more than 5 million or thereabouts but until that contract is in place his trade value is nil.


Oh his value is certainly not nil around the open market, just to Detroit maybe
17 avr. 2022 à 3 h 24
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Oh his value is certainly not nil around the open market, just to Detroit maybe


Well, that was the offer made and commented on and I am a Detroit fan and not qualified to comment on how fans of other teams may view Boeser.

I do doubt though that his QO-amount, which is way higher than what his performance warrants, wouldn't severely limit his trade value for any team being approached to such an extent that no team would offer him a top-6 prospect and two draft picks whereof one a mid 2nd-rounder.
17 avr. 2022 à 3 h 29
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Well, that was the offer made and commented on and I am a Detroit fan and not qualified to comment on how fans of other teams may view Boeser.

I do doubt though that his QO-amount, which is way higher than what his performance warrants, wouldn't severely limit his trade value for any team being approached to such an extent that no team would offer him a top-6 prospect and two draft picks whereof one a mid 2nd-rounder.


Yeah, well Zadina isn't really a prospect anymore, he's more of a reclamation project now
 
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