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Créé par: Wqrrior
Date de création initiale: 16 avr. 2022
Publié: 16 avr. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Dobson, Noah77 000 000 $
Bellows, Kieffer2775 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Niederreiter, Nino44 150 000 $
Rask, Victor1800 000 $
Hägg, Robert1875 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYI
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne (2 250 000 $ retained)
  2. 2023 4e round pick (DAL)
ARI
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Pánik, Richard
  3. 2022 2e round pick (COL)
  4. 2023 2e round pick (NYI)
2.
NYI
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. 2022 4e round pick (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
bad fit swap
MTL
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
  2. 2022 3e round pick (NYI)
3.
NYI
  1. Mrázek, Petr
  2. Steeves, Alex
  3. 2022 1e round pick (TOR)
  4. 2023 3e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Varlamov, Semyon (750 000 $ retained)
4.
NYI
  1. Dillon, Brenden (500 000 $ retained)
WPG
  1. Salo, Robin [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2022 1e round pick (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
  • Rick DiPietro: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Semyon Varlamov: 750 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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Logo de TBL
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2023
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Logo de TOR
Logo de NYI
Logo de DAL
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
2024
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Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $82 389 963 $245 796 $1 287 500 $110 037 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Beauvillier, Anthony
4 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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Barzal, Mathew
7 000 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de NYI
Wahlstrom, Oliver
894 167 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
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Lee, Anders
7 000 000 $
AG, C
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de NYI
Nelson, Brock
6 000 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de NYI
Palmieri, Kyle
5 000 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
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Parise, Zach
750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de MTL
Dvorak, Christian
4 450 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Niederreiter, Nino
4 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
Logo de NYI
Martin, Matt
1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de NYI
Cizikas, Casey
2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de NYI
Clutterbuck, Cal
1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de NYI
Pelech, Adam
5 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 7
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Pulock, Ryan
6 150 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de NYI
Sorokin, Ilya
4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de WPG
Dillon, Brenden
3 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de NYI
Dobson, Noah
7 000 000 $
DD
RFA
Logo de TOR
Mrázek, Petr
3 800 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de ARI
Gostisbehere, Shayne
2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de NYI
Mayfield, Scott
1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Hägg, Robert
875 000 $
DG
UFA
Rask, Victor
800 000 $
C
UFA
Logo de NYI
Bellows, Kieffer
775 000 $
AG, AD
RFA

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16 avr. à 19 h 28
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Valarmov has a 16 team no trade list, I'll almost bet all Canadian teams are on it. As he wouldn't waive for Edmonton. Probably the States only.
16 avr. à 19 h 37
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A 1st for Dillon? Sure why not
16 avr. à 19 h 43
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Jets Accept
Just can’t logically refuse a 1st+ for Dillon
16 avr. à 20 h 21
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Since when is JG Pageau a "bad fit" for the Islanders? I feel like there's this bad narrative around JGP that, since he was on a crazy shooting streak with 24 goals when the Isles traded for him a few seasons back, the he's supposed to be a 25-30 goal scorer, instead of being the 0.5/PPG player with a strong defensive game who is one of your top PK guys. I honestly don't know many(if any) Islanders fans who are clamoring to get him off the team, especially not for a guy like Dvorak who scores less and grades out pretty poorly defensively. He's a bad fit on the Habs, but a worse fit on the Islanders. The added kick in the teeth is trading down from a pick that will probably be around 75ish to something near 125 in that trade - the Islanders need prospects, they shouldn't be downgrading *any* picks this year without getting a better pick back in the future!

I appreciate you at least putting fair value on the Islanders taking back Mrazek AND retaining some of Varlamov's deal, but it won't happen. He's got an NTC with Toronto strongly rumored to be on it; and as far as Mrazek, the obvious move is for Toronto to buy him out and keep those prospects & picks. If (huge, huge IF) Varly wanted to waive for Toronto, there's other deals to be had that won't involve Mrazek.

That Winnipeg deal is just, bad bad bad bad. Winnipeg got him for two 2nd round picks last summer, and here he's going for recent 2nd round pick Robin Salo and the 1st you had Toronto send for Varlamov. So, obviously, this trade wouldn't happen because that 1st would still be in Toronto because of the above reasons, but it's also a bad fit. I'm sure there's a deal there with Winnipeg if the Isles wanted to pick up Dillon, but this is a big overpayment.

I *do* like you having Ghost be acquired to play LD, he would work well paired with a strong defender like Mayfield who lets him play the puck a little more; I just wonder if Arizona can get a better deal without retention from another team looking for that type of player. Ghost has really rebuilt his value this season, IMO.

The Niederreiter signing doesn't make sense. You've moved out Josh Bailey because right now he's a 3rd liner making $5M and not living up to that cap hit, and you've replaced him with a guy who's primed to do the same - Nino will be 30 by the time the season starts, and the Islanders don't need another older winger with a big cap hit clogging up the middle six. Not to mention, I don't know if Nino himself has too many fond memories of the Island - I don't anticipate him rushing to come back here.

This team is better than the current in LD2/LD3, sure - but I think you've significantly downgraded 3C and the backup goalie positions, all while putting this team right up against the cap. I honestly think this team would have a worse season than the 2021-22 Islanders have had - if Sorokin missed any significant time, they are completely boned.
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16 avr. à 20 h 32
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Nino Niederreiter isn't signing for less with the Isles than what he's making in Carolina. Especially in high taxed New York State. At least add another $1,000,000 to Niederreiter.
16 avr. à 20 h 33
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Isles are getting fleeced by Winnipeg
16 avr. à 21 h 47
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Jets and Habs accept. The Jets accept in milliseconds.
16 avr. à 21 h 52
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Every one of these trades is awful for the Islanders.
16 avr. à 22 h 3
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Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: Jester9881
Every one of these trades is awful for the Islanders.


nobody ever counters lol

if you give too much, people complain - if you don't give enough, people complain. even if you do give enough, people complain.

amazingly the simple fix is to counter the offer but nobody ever does.
17 avr. à 8 h 34
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Quoting: Wqrrior
nobody ever counters lol

if you give too much, people complain - if you don't give enough, people complain. even if you do give enough, people complain.

amazingly the simple fix is to counter the offer but nobody ever does.


I can't speak to the needs of the other teams involved, but from the Islanders side:

Arizona Trade: The Islanders are trading two 2nd rounders for an expiring contract of a soon to be 29 year old defenseman who wouldn't be a good partner for Dobson at a time when they sorely need to get younger and re-stock the farm system.

Montreal Trade: The Islanders are giving up the superior player both offensively and defensively, and downgrading another draft pick. For an added $500k in cap space they hurt themselves on the PK, and in the bottom 6.

Toronto Trade: Varlamov with retention is worth a late first at the deadline alone. Taking on Mrazek for two more years at a similar cap is worth a lot more than a meh prospect and a late 3rd rounder. A lot more.

I'm not even going to touch on how bad that Winnipeg trade is... it goes without saying.
 
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