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Another all in move

Créé par: xercuses
Équipe: 2022-23 Golden Knights de Vegas
Date de création initiale: 14 avr. 2022
Publié: 14 avr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Blues may still be salty about Petro so idk if they do that
Moving that much cap in one trade is a little unrealistic but not unheard off
i.e Garland, Ekman-Larrson to Van/ Beagle, the god himeself, roussel to AZ trade
Half retained i could see Wsh spending haglins LTIR cap on that
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3800 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
32 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
VGK
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir
Détails additionnels:
Cant see them moving there top scorer since VT has such good chem with Thomas and buch too but this is for fun so whatever
STL
  1. Hague, Nicolas [Droits de RFA]
  2. Roy, Nicolas [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
2.
VGK
  1. Oesterle, Jordan (650 000 $ retained)
  2. Zadina, Filip [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
13 mil in cap going to Det
but they get a 2c they need
a top 4 vet LD they need
and a good backup they need
DET
  1. Brossoit, Laurent
  2. Karlsson, William
  3. Martinez, Alec
Détails additionnels:
Osterle for depth
Zadina need a change of scenery
3.
VGK
  1. Jonsson-Fjällby, Axel
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
WSH
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni (2 500 000 $ retained)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2382 500 000 $77 091 667 $0 $0 $5 408 333 $
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NMC
UFA - 5
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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800 000 $800 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 3
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DG
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UFA - 3
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
RFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
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UFA - 3
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850 000 $850 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 26
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Detroit declines.

Karlsson is a blatant cap dump by now, he has gotten worse every season in VGK and is no longer close to being a 2C. With five years still on his contract he will cost you a massive amount of assets to dump.

We're not trading a 22 year old player for that.

We'll take Martinez off your hands for a mid round pick because we need a veteran LD for a year or two but not the others.
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14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 35
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Detroit declines.

Karlsson is a blatant cap dump by now, he has gotten worse every season in VGK and is no longer close to being a 2C. With five years still on his contract he will cost you a massive amount of assets to dump.

We're not trading a 22 year old player for that.

We'll take Martinez off your hands for a mid round pick because we need a veteran LD for a year or two but not the others.


Karlson is fair but also really looking at his stats hes been the same other than this year.
Last year was a little down and 2018 was a huge year but other than that hes sitting at about 10 points under a ppg every year give or take
thats pretty good imo so id take it but i see the concern, brossiot is free throw in and a good backup, remember hes been basically a stater this year which he isnt
14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 40
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Detroit declines. 5 more years of Wild Bill Karlsson? No thanks.
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14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 40
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Plus Vegas is trying to win now and Karlsson gives them a much better chance to do that than Zadina does. Martinez has a couple of seasons left and fairly big cap hit which Vegas would benefit from being rid of it. Martinez comes back home to finish out his career and Detroit gets it's stop gap LHD. If a 3rd isn't enough to make that happen fine Detroit will target another LHD Schmidt or Pettersson would do just fine plus there are a couple UFAs that will work as well. So there really is no reason for Detroit to give up more than a 3rd to get a veteran LHD for a couple of seasons.
14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 41
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Detroit declines. 5 more years of Wild Bill Karlsson? No thanks.


yea i got it thanks
no need to ctrl+c ctrl+v
14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 42
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Plus Vegas is trying to win now and Karlsson gives them a much better chance to do that than Zadina does. Martinez has a couple of seasons left and fairly big cap hit which Vegas would benefit from being rid of it. Martinez comes back home to finish out his career and Detroit gets it's stop gap LHD. If a 3rd isn't enough to make that happen fine Detroit will target another LHD Schmidt or Pettersson would do just fine plus there are a couple UFAs that will work as well. So there really is no reason for Detroit to give up more than a 3rd to get a veteran LHD for a couple of seasons.


fair but Zadina is quickly getting out depthed daily
14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 43
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Karlson is fair but also really looking at his stats hes been the same other than this year.
Last year was a little down and 2018 was a huge year but other than that hes sitting at about 10 points under a ppg every year give or take
thats pretty good imo so id take it but i see the concern, brossiot is free throw in and a good backup, remember hes been basically a stater this year which he isnt


It's not that Karlsson is a bad player. But 5 more years at his cap hit isn't enticing. Why would Detroit reward Vegas twice? Taking Wild Bill's cap dump contract plus getting a young Zadina? Yzerman isn't going to do that.
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14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 44
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yea i got it thanks
no need to ctrl+c ctrl+v


Why not? That's what you did.
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14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 44
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fair but Zadina is quickly getting out depthed daily


How many Wings games have you watched recently?
14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 45
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It's not that Karlsson is a bad player. But 5 more years at his cap hit isn't enticing. Why would Detroit reward Vegas twice? Taking Wild Bill's cap dump contract plus getting a young Zadina? Yzerman isn't going to do that.


I really think zadina needs to move like bad, i also dont think hes a cap dump so zadina kinda just pays for everything like a bundle deal at the supermarket. i could see vegas add a second tho too
14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 45
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Why not? That's what you did.


Well fair but i did two diffrent teams, usally i try not to comment on two posts about the same trade but thats just me
dw its np my bad
14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 46
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I really think zadina needs to move like bad, i also dont think hes a cap dump so zadina kinda just pays for everything like a bundle deal at the supermarket. i could see vegas add a second tho too


You're way off when it comes to value.
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How many Wings games have you watched recently?


only the ones they gotten rocked lately
Not on purpose either just happens when i tune into them
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You're way off when it comes to value.


eh ok what is it a late first?
14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 47
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only the ones they gotten rocked lately
Not on purpose either just happens when i tune into them


You're a passive aggressive Red Wings hater. I see right through your little act.
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14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 49
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eh ok what is it a late first?


You're not worth reading because you're clearly a passive aggressive Red Wings hater. Why? Because you're constantly screwing the Red Wings over in every trade you propose. I'll stop wasting my time with you and add you to my ignore list because you're just trying to bait me into a suspension. It won't work.
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14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 56
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
You're a passive aggressive Red Wings hater. I see right through your little act.


Yes and no
I hate them cause they kicked the blues up and down the ice for a long time
And they have fabbri sunny and Walman who I liked a lot
I like em cause they have fabbri sunny and Walman
14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 57
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
You're not worth reading because you're clearly a passive aggressive Red Wings hater. Why? Because you're constantly screwing the Red Wings over in every trade you propose. I'll stop wasting my time with you and add you to my ignore list because you're just trying to bait me into a suspension. It won't work.


Sure man genuinely asking his value but have at it
maybe post your own ideas for once instead of hating on every one else's?
14 avr. 2022 à 12 h 58
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Quoting: xercuses
only the ones they gotten rocked lately
Not on purpose either just happens when i tune into them


Well when a play breaks up he is usually the first forward back yeah he is having trouble scoring but he is playing good hockey in every zone. So maybe he never lives up to his draft position but why trade him for a way overpriced forward or cap dump. As a bottom 6 winger maybe his scoring improves not going up against 1st and 2nd line defenders but trading him for so little makes no sense.
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14 avr. 2022 à 13 h 0
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Well when a play breaks up he is usually the first forward back yeah he is having trouble scoring but he is playing good hockey in every zone. So maybe he never lives up to his draft position but why trade him for a way overpriced forward or cap dump. As a bottom 6 winger maybe his scoring improves not going up against 1st and 2nd line defenders but trading him for so little makes no sense.


Thanks so what’s his value other people seem to not wanna say them blame others for not knowing
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14 avr. 2022 à 13 h 23
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Yeah Detroit passes on the deal, Take Alec Martinez for a 4th round pick that's basically it.
14 avr. 2022 à 13 h 25
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Yeah Detroit passes on the deal, Take Alec Martinez for a 4th round pick that's basically it.


Sure but i dont agree
I really think this execls them for very cheap price and would be an absolute steal
14 avr. 2022 à 13 h 31
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Sure but i dont agree
I really think this execls them for very cheap price and would be an absolute steal


William Karlsson @ $5,900,000 x 5 years basically has been trending down each year since his 78 point performance 5 years ago 28 points currently this season on a very good Vegas team no thanks.
14 avr. 2022 à 13 h 31
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People and teams that are mad at Vegas for giving players the things they are looking for and exploiting the rules that everyone agreed with on the CBA are silly, if there's a good trade to be made with Vegas the Blues should make it, even if it helps them too. And if it helps us, fans shouldn't be salty about also "helping" Vegas.

But I don't think this is a good trade. I like Hague quite a bit and the first round pick is nice, but if the Blues and Tarasenko have been able to work past their differences, they should look elsewhere to improve the defense, and if they are insistent on trading Tarasenko I might look towards New Jersey or the Rangers- teams that can put together a really good package for him and are likely going to need wingers. This is a PPG winger signed to a very reasonable 7.5 million contract, we should get a difference maker back or we should keep him.
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14 avr. 2022 à 13 h 36
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
William Karlsson $5,900,000 x 5 years basically has been trending down each year since his 78 point performance 5 years ago 28 points currently this season on a very good Vegas team no thanks.


fair but looking at it, it really is his only really bad year, every other year has been pretty consitent
 
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