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8 player deal Chychrun to LA - probably terrible

Créé par: Moller
Publié: 12 avr. à 8 h 4
Plafond salarial: 82 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 186/186 (100%)
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Logo de Coyotes de l'ArizonaCoyotes de l'Arizona

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Chychrun, JakobCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-4 600 000 $011---0000--
Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Stars de DallasDAL)---001------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Zaitsev, NikitaSénateurs d'OttawaLNH-4 500 000 $011---0000--
Brännström, ErikExempté du ballottageSénateurs d'OttawaLNH-0 $011---0000--
Kupari, RasmusExempté du ballottageKings de Los AngelesLNH-863 333 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Kings de Los AngelesLAK)---100------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial33 226 666 $16266731215
Variation-763 333 $21211-1
Final32 463 333 $ (↓)18 (↑)27 (↑)69 (↑)4 (↑)13 (↑)14 (↓)000

Logo de Kings de Los AngelesKings de Los Angeles

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Roy, MattKings de Los AngelesLNH-3 150 000 $011---0000--
Vilardi, GabrielExempté du ballottageKings de Los AngelesLNH-0 $011---0000--
Kupari, RasmusExempté du ballottageKings de Los AngelesLNH-863 333 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Kings de Los AngelesLAK)---100------
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Kings de Los AngelesLAK)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Chychrun, JakobCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-4 600 000 $011---0000--
Gustavsson, FilipExempté du ballottageSénateurs d'OttawaMineures-0 $011-------
Formenton, AlexExempté du ballottageSénateurs d'OttawaLNH-0 $011---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial21 263 333 $1431603712
Variation-586 667 $-100-1-10
Final20 676 666 $ (↓)13 (↓)31602 (↓)6 (↓)12000

Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaSénateurs d'Ottawa

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Gustavsson, FilipExempté du ballottageSénateurs d'OttawaMineures-0 $011-------
Zaitsev, NikitaSénateurs d'OttawaLNH-4 500 000 $011---0000--
Brännström, ErikExempté du ballottageSénateurs d'OttawaLNH-0 $011---0000--
Formenton, AlexExempté du ballottageSénateurs d'OttawaLNH-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Roy, MattKings de Los AngelesLNH-3 150 000 $011---0000--
Vilardi, GabrielExempté du ballottageKings de Los AngelesLNH-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Stars de DallasDAL)---001------
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Kings de Los AngelesLAK)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial21 680 953 $1533633614
Variation1 350 000 $-1-1-2001
Final23 030 953 $ (↑)14 (↓)32 (↓)61 (↓)3615 (↑)000
12 avr. à 10 h 6
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I don't see Ottawa going near this tbh.
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12 avr. à 11 h 16
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Don't think Arizona goes for this. They need a better prospect coming back
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12 avr. à 12 h 8
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Ottawa gets medium return.
LA gets an insane deal
Ari gets the shaft.
12 avr. à 13 h 22
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Quoting: reelkena
Ottawa gets medium return.
LA gets an insane deal
Ari gets the shaft.


Ottawa gets the L (no return for many decent young players)
Ari not great return
LA robbery
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13 avr. à 5 h 22
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Thanks for feedback. Seems like overvaluing Kupari is the biggest problem here. Was surprised anyone has Ottawa issues though... Zaitsev replaced with a solid defenceman would have such a massive impact on them.

I had it like this:

ARI:
Chychrun + 4th = Kupari + 1st + 2nd
Brannstrom is the gift for taking Zaitsev

LA:
Roy = Formenton
Kupari + 1st + Vilardi = Chychrun
3rd = Gustavsson

OTT:
Formenton = Roy
Brannstrom is the price for ditching Zaitsev
Gustavsson + 2nd = Vilardi + 3rd + 4th
13 avr. à 11 h 8
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Quoting: Moller
Thanks for feedback. Seems like overvaluing Kupari is the biggest problem here. Was surprised anyone has Ottawa issues though... Zaitsev replaced with a solid defenceman would have such a massive impact on them.

I had it like this:

ARI:
Chychrun + 4th = Kupari + 1st + 2nd
Brannstrom is the gift for taking Zaitsev

LA:
Roy = Formenton
Kupari + 1st + Vilardi = Chychrun
3rd = Gustavsson

OTT:
Formenton = Roy
Brannstrom is the price for ditching Zaitsev
Gustavsson + 2nd = Vilardi + 3rd + 4th


Except you neglet the fact that Ottawa doesn't need to do any of these moves and to loss a top four defesemen for giving up a player is absurd. Brannstromm has become a staple in the top four and has looked amazing. Gustavsson is worth far more than a third to Ottawa cause he is the goalie of the future still and Formenton is usefull as well and there is not a need for Roy. The problem with this is that Ottawa has does not need to be in this deal and shouldn't make this deal cause they instantly loss several good pieces and gain nothing of value back for them.
13 avr. à 12 h 2
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Except you neglet the fact that Ottawa doesn't need to do any of these moves and to loss a top four defesemen for giving up a player is absurd. Brannstromm has become a staple in the top four and has looked amazing. Gustavsson is worth far more than a third to Ottawa cause he is the goalie of the future still and Formenton is usefull as well and there is not a need for Roy. The problem with this is that Ottawa has does not need to be in this deal and shouldn't make this deal cause they instantly loss several good pieces and gain nothing of value back for them.


This is a very biased sounding response.

Brannstrom is far from a top 4 staple and in fact might be struggling to get into a game the second Sanderson steps into one. As much as I'd like to see them play him I'm not convinced the outlook is good at this point.

Gustavsson has been extremely average and unless the team unloads Murray somehow, he's leaving anyway. Goalies don't traditionally get great returns unless they are rockstars.

Formenton is quite useful and a great guy to have but Ottawa needs a top 4RD pretty badly. Roy would help there a ton. He does not add "nothing of value".

You have to give to get. These moves solve problems, not create them.
13 avr. à 13 h 19
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Quoting: Moller
This is a very biased sounding response.

Brannstrom is far from a top 4 staple and in fact might be struggling to get into a game the second Sanderson steps into one. As much as I'd like to see them play him I'm not convinced the outlook is good at this point.

Gustavsson has been extremely average and unless the team unloads Murray somehow, he's leaving anyway. Goalies don't traditionally get great returns unless they are rockstars.

Formenton is quite useful and a great guy to have but Ottawa needs a top 4RD pretty badly. Roy would help there a ton. He does not add "nothing of value".

You have to give to get. These moves solve problems, not create them.



No, these moves create problems, soon enough Ottawa will have Jacob Bernard-Docker and Lassi Thompson on the blueline on the right side and Brannstromm looked really good with Chabot.

There is no need to give up Gustavsson and it makes no sense to do that. Also Formenton is worth more than a top four RD that Ottawa doesn't really need to them as he provides crucial scoring depth and is an elite penalty killer.

If you don't do these moves you have a better more complete team. Doing these moves you move out prospects and players all while getting worse.


Also

Brannstromm (can play both sides)
Hamonic
Zub
Thompson
JBD
Zaitsev
Guennette
is already a crowded right side. Don't need another defender there as it only pushes prospects down.

Maybe think about Ottawa's needs before you trade away usefull players for nothing in return.
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17 avr. à 17 h 33
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Ottawa gets like nothing they decrease their prospect pool
 
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