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Signing Kane over Kuemper

Créé par: BeterChiarelli
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 8 avr. 2022
Publié: 8 avr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Prioritize forward depth over superiority between the pipes: we've seen what Woodcroft's Oilers can do. I imagine the marginal upgrades on the blueline and the decent step forward in net here probably have the Oilers on par with this season's Toronto Maple Leafs. I'll happily take a 4th-place finish with room to grow.

Aim to solve the goaltending crisis internally with Skinner and another tandem netminder or offer Jarry the moon next offseason as the Penguins finally begin to wane.

2022 NHL Entry draft:
#34 (via ARI): (RC) Jimmy Snuggerud (USNTDP, USDP)
#37 (via PHI): (RD) Tristan Luneau (Gatineau, QMJHL)
#63 (via FLA): (G) Topias Leinonen (JYP, U20 sarja)
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
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  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PHI)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
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  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (FLA)
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  2. Stapley, Brett [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
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  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. Rodrigue, Olivier
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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EDM
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
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8 avr. 2022 à 16 h 40
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I think Habs accept that. Seattle rejects easily they’re third last in the league why are the buying Barrie? Arizona I think rejects because moving up 5-10 spots I don’t think is worth giving up another top 40 pick, and Mike smith has 0 value to them
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8 avr. 2022 à 16 h 42
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No thanks from NSH. Myers didn't work out, but he's only under contract for one more year. Foegele has an extra year at a higher cap hit, and I'd honestly rather have McCarron than him.
8 avr. 2022 à 16 h 43
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That sounds like a Ken Holland thing to do
8 avr. 2022 à 16 h 44
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I think Habs accept that. Seattle rejects easily they’re third last in the league why are the buying Barrie? Arizona I think rejects because moving up 5-10 spots I don’t think is worth giving up another top 40 pick, and Mike smith has 0 value to them


Seattle doesn't own puck-moving defencemen and they still have the framework of a roster intended on winning. They were sunk by criminally unlucky goaltending and a poor power play. Given that Barrie immediately helps with one of those, why shouldn't they make that kind of move? exist in the weakest division. Fighting for a playoff spot is going to matter to them, especially if they're bringing Beniers in next season. It's a move that achieves balance first and foremost.

Arizona moves up drastically in this situation: a total of 14 spots from their pick alone. By way of draft pick values, Edmonton leaves equivalent to the #71 pick on the table, which is about what dumping the last year of Smith on them would cost. He's either going to be on LTIR or help them hit the cap floor, it's a fine deal.
8 avr. 2022 à 16 h 47
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Modifié 8 avr. 2022 à 16 h 54
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No thanks from NSH. Myers didn't work out, but he's only under contract for one more year. Foegele has an extra year at a higher cap hit, and I'd honestly rather have McCarron than him.


Is the expectation that nobody play for Nashville next season then? I don't think your feedback is at all realistic: it's a cap-equivalent move and Nashville gets the best piece in that deal. All it would mean is Nick Cousins not getting re-upped on a new deal and Trenin moving to pivot.

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That sounds like a Ken Holland thing to do


Some actual feedback would be great.
8 avr. 2022 à 16 h 56
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Quoting: JGDD11
I think Habs accept that. Seattle rejects easily they’re third last in the league why are the buying Barrie? Arizona I think rejects because moving up 5-10 spots I don’t think is worth giving up another top 40 pick, and Mike smith has 0 value to them


I don't even think the Habs accept, they're really not in a position to take on Kassian's contract and they don't really need Rodrigue right now.
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8 avr. 2022 à 17 h 1
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Trading not one but TWO 1st round picks just to move contracts is crazy. The Oilers aren't in the worst cap situation and I've never seen anyone else doing that... Kassian has a very reasonable buyout so I guarantee Holland won't be sending a 1st for a backup in type of deal, he'd buy Kassian out first.
8 avr. 2022 à 17 h 4
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Good luck with Kane. Wouldn't consider anything longer than 1 year with him. His past dictates that in my opinion. TB isn't back to back champs without the best goalie in the world.
8 avr. 2022 à 17 h 6
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Edmonton spending money on forwards instead of solidifying their goaltending situation? Where have I seen this before?

Break the cycle already. Go get a proven starting goalie and maybe you won’t have to outscore your goaltending problems
8 avr. 2022 à 17 h 14
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Since edmontons 1st and Arizonas 2nd are pretty close, you're essentially trading Smith for a 3rd. No way. Best you'll get for him is future considerations.

Why wouod Seattle want Barrie? Also the 2nd is going to the wrong team. Soucy >>>>> Barrie

I like the Nashville trade.

Let's say rodrigue is there to dump kassian. Allen + Stapely + 4th >>> 1st. Maybe switch rodrigue for konovalov. Take out stapely and the 4th and it's closer. 1st + Konovalov + Kassian for Allen 50 % retained.
8 avr. 2022 à 17 h 18
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Is the expectation that nobody play for Nashville next season then? I don't think your feedback is at all realistic: it's a cap-equivalent move and Nashville gets the best piece in that deal. All it would mean is Nick Cousins not getting re-upped on a new deal.



Some actual feedback would be great.


I'm not sure what's unrealistic. The only UFA forwards NSH has entering the summer are Forsberg and Cousins. They're trying to re-sign Forsberg, and there isn't a potential replacement for him in this proposal, so Forsberg isn't relevant to this trade. Cousins could possibly come back for another year, but NSH may just move on from him if they feel anyone from Milwaukee (ie Glass, Novak, Olivier, etc) earns a spot in the lineup. A re-signed Cousins would presumably be cheaper than Foegele's contract too.

It's not a cap equivalent move, because NSH is giving up two players that make $3.3M combined. So they'd be spending more than they were on Myers and McCarron, with Foegele's $2.75M plus whatever goes to the other player they replace Myers with (even someone making league minimum still puts that number at $3.5M at the minimum).

Foegele is an adequate depth player, and yeah probably a bit of a better overall player than McCarron, but Big Sexy knows his role, fits in with the team well, and seems to be a locker room favourite. If he gets pushed out of the lineup because a prospect outplays him, that's great. Swapping him out for a different warm body, and hoping to find the same chemistry is a gamble, even if Foegele might have a touch more skill. I'd much rather have him at $750K than Foegele at $2.75M, and really don't think I'd do a one for one swap there, even if they had the same contract.

If NSH can't find anyone willing to trade for Myers this summer, buying out his remaining year is dirt cheap. The Preds would actually gain a bit of cap space somehow in 22-23, and get a paltry $634K penalty for 23-24, according to the CF buyout calculator. His contract isn't much of burden to NSH.
8 avr. 2022 à 17 h 25
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Arizona doesn’t do that
8 avr. 2022 à 17 h 33
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I’m hopeful NSH buys out Myers and after playing with the Marlies right now, decides to stay in TOR.
8 avr. 2022 à 19 h 36
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Here’s the problem I think this team might run into, AZ and MTL will both want the ‘23 1st rounder as both already have multiple 1sts including a top 10 pick this year and they’d probably like to have another pick in the deeper draft.

Also that’s a bit of a high price for Allen being that he’s still a 1B at best. And I’d guess that SEA would prefer something closer to player swaps than moving high picks because although their roster isn’t really a rebuilding roster they still need to build a pipeline.
9 avr. 2022 à 11 h 2
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Yep I'd do that MTL trade.
 
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