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Créé par: jhebert76
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 28 mars 2022
Publié: 1 avr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3750 000 $
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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21 200 000 $
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UFAANSCAP HIT
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MTL
  1. Johansson, Albert
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (DET)
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    1. Weber, Shea
    2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
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    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
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    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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    1 avr. 2022 à 9 h 27
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    For the billionth time, Detroit doesn't want the corpse of Jeff Petry for free, let alone paying for him.
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    1 avr. 2022 à 9 h 28
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    yo how many times do we have to say we aren't interested in Petry, don't ask for one of our best D prospects for a guy we don't need
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    1 avr. 2022 à 9 h 34
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    Quoting: DeadWingsv2
    For the billionth time, Detroit doesn't want the corpse of Jeff Petry for free, let alone paying for him.


    thats fair, but this is his hometown...i think he still has some good years to give. hes a year removed from norris conversation.
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    Quoting: Roysboy72
    yo how many times do we have to say we aren't interested in Petry, don't ask for one of our best D prospects for a guy we don't need


    in all honestly i am not sure about how high the D prospect was ranked. but i also threw in a 2nd and 4th
    1 avr. 2022 à 9 h 40
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    Quoting: jhebert76
    in all honestly i am not sure about how high the D prospect was ranked. but i also threw in a 2nd and 4th


    "Throwing in" means you provided these to Detroit (which would be more fair in this deal). Instead, you tried to steal them along with Jo. No thank you, sir.
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    1 avr. 2022 à 9 h 40
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    Oil not interested in Allen
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    1 avr. 2022 à 9 h 40
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    Quoting: jhebert76
    in all honestly i am not sure about how high the D prospect was ranked. but i also threw in a 2nd and 4th

    For some context on Johansson, he's the Wings' late 2nd rounder in 2019, and at age 21 the progress has been going very well. He's been popping off in the SHL, and I'd project him as a legitimate two-way second pairing guy on a contender if he makes it and hits his prime. Adding a 2nd and 4th to him for a guy we don't want nor need isn't an appealing trade for the Wings.
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    1 avr. 2022 à 9 h 42
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    Quoting: dtd_tank
    "Throwing in" means you provided these to Detroit (which would be more fair in this deal). Instead, you tried to steal them along with Jo. No thank you, sir.


    sorry yeah your right, maybe should have reversed that.
    1 avr. 2022 à 9 h 44
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    Quoting: Roysboy72
    For some context on Johansson, he's the Wings' late 2nd rounder in 2019, and at age 21 the progress has been going very well. He's been popping off in the SHL, and I'd project him as a legitimate two-way second pairing guy on a contender if he makes it and hits his prime. Adding a 2nd and 4th to him for a guy we don't want nor need isn't an appealing trade for the Wings.


    yeah sounds like a good player. why are red wings fans so cold on Petry?
    1 avr. 2022 à 9 h 48
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    Quoting: jhebert76
    thats fair, but this is his hometown...i think he still has some good years to give. hes a year removed from norris conversation.


    jeff petry has never been in the norris conversation once in his career
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    1 avr. 2022 à 9 h 49
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    thats fair, but this is his hometown...i think he still has some good years to give. hes a year removed from norris conversation.

    At his age and contract, last year is irrelevant. Professional athletes tend to fall of a cliff fast when they're cooked and all signs point to him having gone off that cliff. Detroit isn't taking Petry and certainly isn't giving up ANY assets for a cap dump. That contract will cost a boatload to move and Detroit is moving past the cap dump acquisition phase of the rebuild anyways. Petry to Detroit just isn't a fit.
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    Quoting: jhebert76
    yeah sounds like a good player. why are red wings fans so cold on Petry?

    There's a few reasons:

    1. He's old. It's not a huge reason, but Wings fans enjoy keeping the team young, with veterans above the age of 30 only being added when absolutely necessary (or when they're super awesome guys like Gagner, Staal, or Bobby Ryan).
    2. His contract is long and bad. He's already quite overpaid for his current level of production, and it isn't worth the risk of him continuing to decline and leaving the Wings with an albatross contract for the hope that he returns to form in his mid-30s.
    3. There's not much reason or space to have him on the team. The Wings already have Seider, Hronek, and Lindstrom locked together on that right side, so adding another RHD doesn't make much sense unless they plan on getting rid of one of them (which I don't foresee happening).
    4. We're tired of Habs fans trying to trade him to the Wings because "He's a hometown guy" (yes I know he's a hometown guy this isn't pokemon we don't have to catch them all) and trying to nab our valuable assets for a player that has near zero value to the Wings.

    Those are the reasons I can come up with. It's just not a fit with Detroit unless we're considering it a cap dump, in which case it makes more sense for Montreal to just keep him. No matter how many times these deals are proposed, they just aren't a fit.
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    yeah sounds like a good player. why are red wings fans so cold on Petry?


    From a performance perspective, he's fallen off a cliff this year. He turns 35 at the start of December and has 3 years left on his contract (at $6.25M, which is more than every other player in Detroit makes at this moment to put things into perspective).

    Beyond that, he's got a 15 team NTC meaning that even if MON wants to trade him, they are limited to about half the teams in the league, which severely limits his trade value in the first place. And, finally, Detroit's coming out of a rebuild, and every ACGM where Petry gets traded to DET is for Veleno, Johansson, Rasmussen, etc. There's absolutely no reason we should move a young player for a 35yo with essentially no value lol.
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    Montreal adds in Suzuki to balance out the trade
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    1 avr. 2022 à 10 h 20
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    People saying: ''we aren't interested in Petry,'', like if they own the team!!! Stop just Stop. Keep this site ''Friendly''
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    Mike Hoffman is a terrible offensive play driver, a useless defensive player, and an all round bad dude. The only reasons teams put up with him was because of his excellent finishing ability. He's 32 and he's already losing the only thing that made him worthwhile, I don't see why anyone would touch him.
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    How about this don't stop posting these Petry to Detroit because it won't happen. Do it for the majority of your fellow Hab's fans that keep apologizing and are thoroughly embarrassed that the Petry to Detroit trades are still being posted.
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    Quoting: DeadWingsv2
    For the billionth time, Detroit doesn't want the corpse of Jeff Petry for free, let alone paying for him.


    Quoting: Roysboy72
    yo how many times do we have to say we aren't interested in Petry, don't ask for one of our best D prospects for a guy we don't need


    Quoting: DeadWingsv2
    At his age and contract, last year is irrelevant. Professional athletes tend to fall of a cliff fast when they're cooked and all signs point to him having gone off that cliff. Detroit isn't taking Petry and certainly isn't giving up ANY assets for a cap dump. That contract will cost a boatload to move and Detroit is moving past the cap dump acquisition phase of the rebuild anyways. Petry to Detroit just isn't a fit.


    Perhaps you guys should read the rumors before you claim Detroit doesn't want Petry. Obviously you guys don't want Petry but management is rumored to be interested in getting him, they would prefer him at a cap hit of around 5 Mil but there is still interest there. See articles below.

    https://www.nhltraderumor.com/detroit-and-dallas-interested-in-a-jeff-petry-trade/

    https://nhlrumors.net/detroit-and-dallas-interested-in-a-jeff-petry-trade

    https://nhlrumors.com/nhl-rumors-scouting-fla-det-tor-van-and-chi-phi-sabres-stars-and-canadiens/2022/03/06/

    https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2022/02/nhl-rumors-red-wings-interested-in.html
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    1 avr. 2022 à 11 h 12
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Perhaps you guys should read the rumors before you claim Detroit doesn't want Petry. Obviously you guys don't want Petry but management is rumored to be interested in getting him, they would prefer him at a cap hit of around 5 Mil but there is still interest there. See articles below.

    https://www.nhltraderumor.com/detroit-and-dallas-interested-in-a-jeff-petry-trade/

    https://nhlrumors.net/detroit-and-dallas-interested-in-a-jeff-petry-trade

    https://nhlrumors.com/nhl-rumors-scouting-fla-det-tor-van-and-chi-phi-sabres-stars-and-canadiens/2022/03/06/

    https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2022/02/nhl-rumors-red-wings-interested-in.html

    1. This is ACGM, not Detroit's front office forums. Wings fans have collectivized around the idea that Petry shouldn't be traded to Detroit and we're spewing our opinion, not whatever the front office thinks on the matter. We don't know what's inside Yzerman's head, and while we can guess, it doesn't mean much when the opinion ultimately comes down to ourselves.
    2. I honestly don't give a single ounce of legitimacy to any rumor that doesn't come directly from an insider's mouth. Every player has been connected to every franchise at some point, and it doesn't mean teams are actually planning on trading for them.
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    Quoting: jhebert76
    yeah sounds like a good player. why are red wings fans so cold on Petry?


    Have a look at our roster.

    We have three RD that are 24, 23, and 20 years old repectively. Why would we replace one of them with a 34 year old declining player on a massive, horrendously constructed, contract that cannot be bought out?

    There isn't even room to play Petry as a #7 defender due to our need to restructure or LD side and run four LD next season. The only thing Detroit could do with Petry is to waive him and send him to Grand Rapids to be used for injury call-ups.

    Do you really think that we would pay any assets at all for such a player? And one of our top prospects on the left side where we are absolutely atrocious right now. We wouldn't trade you Johansson if you so offered every single one of your picks for him.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with what Petry is as a player, it's about what Detroit needs to make their team better. To Detroit Petry is totally useless and will be considered a massive cap dump that warrants being paid to take on.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Perhaps you guys should read the rumors before you claim Detroit doesn't want Petry. Obviously you guys don't want Petry but management is rumored to be interested in getting him, they would prefer him at a cap hit of around 5 Mil but there is still interest there. See articles below.

    https://www.nhltraderumor.com/detroit-and-dallas-interested-in-a-jeff-petry-trade/

    https://nhlrumors.net/detroit-and-dallas-interested-in-a-jeff-petry-trade

    https://nhlrumors.com/nhl-rumors-scouting-fla-det-tor-van-and-chi-phi-sabres-stars-and-canadiens/2022/03/06/

    https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2022/02/nhl-rumors-red-wings-interested-in.html


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    1 avr. 2022 à 11 h 15
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    Quoting: Billy12Bob
    Have a look at our roster.

    We have three RD that are 24, 23, and 20 years old repectively. Why would we replace one of them with a 34 year old declining player on a massive horrendously constructed contract that cannot be bought out?

    There isn't even room to play Petry as a #7 defender due to our need to restructure or LD side and run four LD next season. The only thing Detroit could do with Petry is to waive him and send him to Grand Rapids to be used for injury call-ups.

    Do you really think that we would pay any assets at all for such a player? And one of our top prospects on the left side where we are absolutely atrocious right now. We wouldn't trade you Johansson if you so offered every single one of your picks for him.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with what Petry is as a player, it's about what Detroit needs to make their team better. To Detroit Petry is totally useless and will be considered a massive cap dump that warrants being paid to take on.


    As a habs fan im saying this as genuinely as possible. I want to keep him, i have no issue with his contract. he wants to move so im happy to oblige. this to me is an off year which it has been for most habs players. hes also not a Number 1 defenseman so he is misused in MTL. he would fit great as a 2 or 3 D
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    Buddy with the fire replies i love it!


    Quoting: Campabee
    Perhaps you guys should read the rumors before you claim Detroit doesn't want Petry. Obviously you guys don't want Petry but management is rumored to be interested in getting him, they would prefer him at a cap hit of around 5 Mil but there is still interest there. See articles below.

    https://www.nhltraderumor.com/detroit-and-dallas-interested-in-a-jeff-petry-trade/

    https://nhlrumors.net/detroit-and-dallas-interested-in-a-jeff-petry-trade

    https://nhlrumors.com/nhl-rumors-scouting-fla-det-tor-van-and-chi-phi-sabres-stars-and-canadiens/2022/03/06/

    https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2022/02/nhl-rumors-red-wings-interested-in.html

    Not a single one of those come from a reputable source... Come on now...

    Literally the line:
    The Stars may not be alone in their interest in Petry, with the Detroit Red Wings and Philadelphia Flyers believed to have an interest.

    How much more click-baity could that be?!? Not a single source or reference, on a clickbait site itself... Give me a break...
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    Quoting: DeadWingsv2
    Not a single one of those come from a reputable source... Come on now...


    Sorry buddy, im not an NHL insider. I heard these rumours as well. dont know if they are valid or not but who cares. this is for the sake of conversation. did you watch him play in the playoffs last year? i think 5.5M for a good defenseman is the going rate so hes not overpaid.
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    Quoting: jhebert76
    As a habs fan im saying this as genuinely as possible. I want to keep him, i have no issue with his contract. he wants to move so im happy to oblige. this to me is an off year which it has been for most habs players. hes also not a Number 1 defenseman so he is misused in MTL. he would fit great as a 2 or 3 D

    Yes, just keep him, that's what both sides want and therefore it makes the most sense.
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