If Fiala could center Columbus would be interested, but since they already have Bjorkstrand, Laine, Voracek and Nyquist as top 6 wings they really don’t need another, honestly they need to move a few to make room for Bemstrom, Johnson, Marchenko, Texier and Foudy to get some time too.

I mean... yeah? Just gave my thoughts, because that's how forums work. Nobody knows anything credibly.

Yeah you don’t acquire a player like Fiala for his defense. You acquire Fiala to let him loose with Stutzle and rack up points. He’s got 60 on the year, 13 more than your highest scorer.

If you think Greig is anywhere close to providing that, you’re gonna be disappointed. Greig tops out as a 25-25 guy who plays with an edge.

Actually a better reason to move him. I personally love the way he is played but if you can get a haul for moving him and resigning Fiala then that is a really succesfull offseason because Zucc's rennaissance is only going to last a little bit longer before age catches up to him as he is 34 and the contract brings him to 37

Yeah no I was just responding with mine. I don’t personally think Greig is off limits and I think that’s close in value to what Fiala will return. Respect that you disagree.

I've read all of Finnigan's prospect stuff which is provided by the Sens on NHL.com Senators and he looks and sounds really good plus he played really well in preseason. I think that you're underating him and that you're mistaking that Batherson was on a better point production was out the last two months due to a high ankle sprain. Tkachuk who is only 23 is also up their but doesn't have the shot. Batherson would have a couple more points than Fiala.

Ah, that is the same as saying that I don't think that Wallstedt is of limits. It's subconciously knowing something but not admitting it.

Cause theoretically I could say that Wallstedt, O'Rourke, Boldy, and Kaprizov are not off limits.

The point is that you’re not gonna get a haul. Zucc has a modified no trade list which filters the market down, and hes aging with a heavy contract. And he plays with Kaprizov, who by the way, would be fumed if Zucc were dealt.

It’s not a good idea, even if it looks like one to an outsider

Sure whatever Greigs untouchable. Send us a 2nd and put a bow on it.

I can’t continue this discussion with you. You remind me too much of a wild poster on here that has like 37 accounts and it’s making my head hurt.

Agree to disagree. Im retiring from this thread.

man, seeing fiala go would hurt, i really wish thenwild would find a way to keep him. I think the ottawa and kings one are the most likely deal based on needs. i think buffalo is gonna play their rebuild a bit slower. i feel the prospect you get from ottawa might not be as good as greig, but.im not sure who i would replace him with. (maybe one of jbd or Thompson)

I think you need to put a price and term for this fiala contract. Buffalo for instance is not trading peterka and thier 2022 1st (a top 10 pick is a pretty hefty ask for any player) to pay market value. Plus the skinner contract already handicaps what we can pay a winger until we have center/d/goalie all set. If you get fiala at 8 years 6mil sure i'm on the phone but if you want me to negotiate the contract you can have 2 seconds and biro.

I used the VGK pick instead of BUFs. I wouldn’t expect a top 10 pick. But the rumored ask was like 7x7 for him last year. No idea if that’s changed, but probably safe to assume something along those lines

Not enough from Los Angeles. We could add a young center prospect like Anderson-Dolan or Thomas to replace those four older guys you have in the farm system who are on expiring minimum-level contracts. Either one could be a bottom-6 NHL forward.

Yeah I’ve longed advocated for keeping Fiala. But ever since the Greenway deal, I’ve lost confidence that Guerin has any intention of keeping him.

Regarding the prospect, I really don’t know. That’s why I created 5 different packages. Everyone on this site seems set on it being Jarventie or JBD and I’m not buying it. I believe Guerin will do better. Whether that’s with OTT or elsewhere, I don’t care

That seems reasonable. I actually like the Kings the most as a potential trade partner. I think Fiala would thrive there. Good mix of vets and really high end young talent.

My bad, missed that....still to much tho. Maybe florida's 1st but i'd wanna know whose there before i decide. Im not expecting a cup run this year and im hopefully gonna need the prospects from this draft to make my cap work when we are 🤞.

I’d prefer to trade a higher pick in 2022 (say it lands something like 10th overall) and a lesser prospect such as Kieffer Bellows. I think the Isles are high on Raty

Buch was always a steal, that's a bad comparable

Rienhart is a better comparable but he also produced less and demanded a trade. The whole center argument is also far from rock solid as he only really plays it out of necessity

I think he blows Buch's return out of the water (not hard to do) and beats Rienhart's return as well

That’s a really interesting counter. It’s compelling, and something I think Guerin would have to strongly consider. Id probably take that, if it were me.

In terms of value, your proposal is at least not far off if that pick is somewhat top-5/10 protected

But Greig is a key piece they want to build the team around. If I had to guess (and how I see it), the somewhat untouchables are :

Sogaard
Chabot, Sanderson
Batherson, Norris, Stutzle, Tkachuk, Pinto, Greig, Formenton

These are all the guys I would build my team around. Of course, everyone could always be traded (since Gretzky got traded) but I see these guys being the core going forward

On defense, one or two guys will join that group but who? Kleven depending on how good he becomes, Zub if he is extended, Thomson or JBD depending on who's the best, etc.

There's also Connor Brown who should be extended for 5 years, he's a great all utility veteran to have

That 2022 first also shouldn't be available as it's currently top-5 unless it was to get an even bigger fish than Fiala

Islanders no. More likely to just move our early 2022 first rounder (picks 10-12 or so?) and a roster player. Raty has been insane this season

Bc 1 - goalie prospects arent as valuable as skater prospects and 2 - bc addison>>>>>portillo

As an islander fan whos also a massive raty fan id decline this. My 1 question is how did you come up with these values. Like i see big differences between the prospects. And obbiously nobody knows where the picks will turn out next year but i think there are some big value differentials between the different packages.

I’m not trying to come up with equal value packages. I said that in my description. I actually deliberately do spread the value to help better understand the highs and lows of what other fanbases like vs what I think is acceptable.

So I build packages largely based on prospects that I myself like, along with team needs and overall fits that I see.

Ahhh got it missed that part