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Créé par: MNCountryClub
Équipe: 2022-23 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 29 mars 2022
Publié: 31 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
ASSUME FIALA IS EXTENDED.

I know all of these are not equal in value. Just chumming the waters and making calls.

Not particularly attached to any of these, so looking for tweaks and suggestions to make them more agreeable.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
21 100 000 $
23 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
MIN
  1. Räty, Aatu
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
NYI
  1. Fiala, Kevin [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Pick protection needed? Not sure.
2.
MIN
  1. Greig, Ridly
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
OTT
    What’s the agreed upon protected threshold these days? Top 7, top 10?
    3.
    MIN
    1. Grans, Helge
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
    LAK
    4.
    MIN
    1. Peterka, John-Jason
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
    BUF
    5.
    MIN
    1. Marchenko, Kirill [Liste de réserve]
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
    CBJ
      I know March isn’t being moved. Let a man dream.
      Rachats de contrats
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      2024
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      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2682 500 000 $85 852 754 $0 $1 780 000 $-3 352 754 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      Logo de Wild du Minnesota
      9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 4
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      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
      C
      RFA - 3
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      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      AD, AG
      M-NTC, NMC
      UFA - 2
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      3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 2
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      5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
      C
      UFA - 7
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      3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Wild du Minnesota
      880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
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      1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 2
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      750 000 $750 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
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      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      C
      UFA - 1
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      1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
      863 333 $863 333 $
      C, AG
      RFA - 3
      Logo de Wild du Minnesota
      1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 1
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      855 833 $855 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
      AG, AD
      RFA - 3
      Logo de Islanders de New York
      836 667 $836 667 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
      C
      RFA - 3
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Wild du Minnesota
      3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Wild du Minnesota
      7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
      DD
      NMC
      UFA - 5
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      3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
      G
      UFA - 2
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      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      DG
      NMC
      UFA - 6
      Logo de Wild du Minnesota
      1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Wild du Minnesota
      795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
      DD
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Wild du Minnesota
      3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Wild du Minnesota
      1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
      DG/DD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Wild du Minnesota
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Wild du Minnesota
      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      DD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
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      847 500 $847 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
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      31 mars 2022 à 17 h 28
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      That’s a lot for a guy without a contract
      31 mars 2022 à 17 h 29
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      Pretty fair trade with buffalo, I just don't see them making that type of move atm.

      They need a goalie, and a top 4 rhd, followed by a top 6 center before they move on a winger
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      31 mars 2022 à 17 h 30
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      mehh I doubt isles would trade what it seems to be the steal of the last draft + a pick that could be really high
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      31 mars 2022 à 17 h 30
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      Quoting: glarson17
      That’s a lot for a guy without a contract


      read the description
      31 mars 2022 à 17 h 31
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      Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
      Pretty fair trade with buffalo, I just don't see them making that type of move atm.

      They need a goalie, and a top 4 rhd, followed by a top 6 center before they move on a winger


      Quoting: alex123
      mehh I doubt isles would trade what it seems to be the steal of the last draft + a pick that could be really high


      Both fair comments. Appreciate the feedback. Makes sense.
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      31 mars 2022 à 17 h 37
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      Sabres aren't interested in trading Peterka.
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      31 mars 2022 à 17 h 41
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      Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
      Sabres aren't interested in trading Peterka.


      Have they explicitly said as much? Or is that just your inference due to him being a highly regarded prospect?
      31 mars 2022 à 17 h 42
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      aatu raty is already better than fiala
      31 mars 2022 à 17 h 44
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      Quoting: hutlife
      aatu raty is already better than fiala


      Lmao one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard. Can we please sticky this or banner it near the top of the site?
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      31 mars 2022 à 17 h 44
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      Quoting: drmantalban
      Have they explicitly said as much? Or is that just your inference due to him being a highly regarded prospect?


      I don't see them trading him for Fiala. Why pay Fiala $6-7M when we can develop a young kid with great potential? He's going to be a great piece and we are looking for RHD and G more.

      Skinner - Thompson - Tuch
      Krebs - Cozens - Quinn
      Olofsson - Mittelstadt - Peterka
      Asplund - Girgensons - Okposo
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      31 mars 2022 à 17 h 47
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      Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
      I don't see them trading him for Fiala. Why pay Fiala $6-7M when we can develop a young kid with great potential? He's going to be a great piece and we are looking for RHD and G more.

      Skinner - Thompson - Tuch
      Krebs - Cozens - Quinn
      Olofsson - Mittelstadt - Peterka
      Asplund - Girgensons - Okposo


      Makes sense, I agree with that philosophy.

      And if I recall correctly from other Sabres fans, the RHD needs to be mid career, big and a stay home type of player?

      I’ve explored the idea of a prospect swap where MN sends Addison to BUF, but received pushback citing the above criteria as being necessary
      31 mars 2022 à 17 h 51
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      Quoting: glarson17
      That’s a lot for a guy without a contract


      He's a RFA, So he's going to get a contract. it's just how much he's going to get.
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      31 mars 2022 à 17 h 55
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      Quoting: drmantalban
      Makes sense, I agree with that philosophy.

      And if I recall correctly from other Sabres fans, the RHD needs to be mid career, big and a stay home type of player?

      I’ve explored the idea of a prospect swap where MN sends Addison to BUF, but received pushback citing the above criteria as being necessary


      Addison would be a nice add but I feel we need someone with more experience like John Marino for example.

      I would offer someone like Portillo for Addison though.
      31 mars 2022 à 17 h 59
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      Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
      Addison would be a nice add but I feel we need someone with more experience like John Marino for example.

      I would offer someone like Portillo for Addison though.


      Yeah which obviously MN wouldn’t do. So likely not a fit, unless Adams has a different view on things
      31 mars 2022 à 18 h 2
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      Yeah which obviously MN wouldn’t do. So likely not a fit, unless Adams has a different view on things


      Why wouldn't they? Portillo is a really good G prospect who is blocked by Devon Levi.
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      31 mars 2022 à 18 h 2
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      Grieg is not for sale. Ottawa rarely drafts players under 6 foot but they made an exception for Grieg:
      A: Cause he is the son of a former NHLer.
      B: Because he is a gritty get in you're face guy that leads the WHL in penalty minutes and is very tenacious
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      C; Because he is extremely skilled. Like did you see the move he pulled off on Hellybuyck during the preseason. He'll be a great player.
      I think it would be one of the D or Jarventie that would go over in a Kevin Fiala trade for Ottawa but I still believe that they should go a different route.

      Using the Reinhart and Buchnevich trades as a template.
      31 mars 2022 à 18 h 4
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      Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
      Why wouldn't they? Portillo is a really good G prospect who is blocked by Devon Levi.


      Grabbed Wallstedt in the last draft and plan is to have him come to NA next year. It would create the same exact issue you’re dealing with on Levi.
      31 mars 2022 à 18 h 4
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      Idk I just can't imagine Ottawa moving Ridly Greig. He's got so much skill and he's basically the embodiment of what they want the team identify to be. If Ottawa's moving a 1st this year or next, I don't see them moving one of their top prospects as well. As good as he is I'm unconvinced that Fiala commands that kind of return.
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      31 mars 2022 à 18 h 8
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      Quoting: Hii
      Grieg is not for sale. Ottawa rarely drafts players under 6 foot but they made an exception for Grieg:
      A: Cause he is the son of a former NHLer.
      B: Because he is a gritty get in you're face guy that leads the WHL in penalty minutes and is very tenacious
      and
      C; Because he is extremely skilled. Like did you see the move he pulled off on Hellybuyck during the preseason. He'll be a great player.
      I think it would be one of the D or Jarventie that would go over in a Kevin Fiala trade for Ottawa but I still believe that they should go a different route.

      Using the Reinhart and Buchnevich trades as a template.


      Yeah everyone recycles that same answer about Reinhart and Buch, and I just don’t agree with it. What Adams accepts for his guy is not a model for what Guerin will accept. And Buch was a known fleece at the time. I know the argument, but I’d bet anyone on this site that Guerin does better than that.

      As for Greig being avail, maybe he is maybe he isn’t. At this point, we know the Sens are interested in Fiala. What your threshold is does not represent what theirs is.
      31 mars 2022 à 18 h 11
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      Quoting: Claesson4Norris
      Idk I just can't imagine Ottawa moving Ridly Greig. He's got so much skill and he's basically the embodiment of what they want the team identify to be. If Ottawa's moving a 1st this year or next, I don't see them moving one of their top prospects as well. As good as he is I'm unconvinced that Fiala commands that kind of return.


      Yeah we just don’t know, though. Like I get it, Greigs valued and he’s a good player. Maybe there’s no chance OTT parts with him for Fiala. But nobody here knows and it’s in the realm of possibility
      31 mars 2022 à 18 h 11
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      Quoting: drmantalban
      Yeah everyone recycles that same answer about Reinhart and Buch, and I just don’t agree with it. What Adams accepts for his guy is not a model for what Guerin will accept. And Buch was a known fleece at the time. I know the argument, but I’d bet anyone on this site that Guerin does better than that.

      As for Greig being avail, maybe he is maybe he isn’t. At this point, we know the Sens are interested in Fiala. What your threshold is does not represent what theirs is.


      Grieg is not available, it would at least be stupid to trade him cause they went out of their way to draft him and he is very close to an NHL job that could replace Fiala. I think you're right about Guerin but I also think that the other GM's will look at the market of FA and the market that Reinhart who was an almost identical player to Fiala but also a center which makes him more valuable was traded for. It will probably be in the middle ground so early 2nd + good prospect + a little bit more.
      31 mars 2022 à 18 h 13
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      Quoting: drmantalban
      Yeah we just don’t know, though. Like I get it, Greigs valued and he’s a good player. Maybe there’s no chance OTT parts with him for Fiala. But nobody here knows and it’s in the realm of possibility


      Agreed, I mean he got a second for McBain to but that was to an Arizona team that had the capital. I don't know how he will get out of this but I would actually consider moving Zuccerelo cause he will age and that contract will hurt a lot and if you sign Fiala and him and Boldy light it up then you've got yourself a good second line.

      I also wouldn't put it past Carolina to offersheet Fiala.
      31 mars 2022 à 18 h 14
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      Quoting: Hii
      Grieg is not available, it would at least be stupid to trade him cause they went out of their way to draft him and he is very close to an NHL job that could replace Fiala. I think you're right about Guerin but I also think that the other GM's will look at the market of FA and the market that Reinhart who was an almost identical player to Fiala but also a center which makes him more valuable was traded for. It will probably be in the middle ground so early 2nd + good prospect + a little bit more.


      Lol Greig is not close to replacing Fiala. How about he plays an NHL game before you suggest he can step in for a 75 point player. Talk about a homer take.
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      31 mars 2022 à 18 h 16
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      Quoting: drmantalban
      Lol Greig is not close to replacing Fiala. How about he plays an NHL game before you suggest he can step in for a 75 point player. Talk about a homer take.


      K, he may not replace Fiala but he is close to NHL action and when he is seasoned a bit more he could replace a role that Fiala plays. I also don't like Fiala's defense which is why I would rather go out and get a FA to fill the need. Particularily Burakovsky or Giroux.
      31 mars 2022 à 18 h 18
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      Quoting: Hii
      Agreed, I mean he got a second for McBain to but that was to an Arizona team that had the capital. I don't know how he will get out of this but I would actually consider moving Zuccerelo cause he will age and that contract will hurt a lot and if you sign Fiala and him and Boldy light it up then you've got yourself a good second line.

      I also wouldn't put it past Carolina to offersheet Fiala.


      Carolina doesn’t have the money to OS Fiala. They’re pretty set.

      And no we’re not moving Zucc. His value is higher to us than we could get in trade. He’s scoring at a 95 point pace, but nobody is gonna pay like that, because of his age and contract.
       
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