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Giving it a try

Créé par: Sagecoll
Date de création initiale: 29 mars 2022
Publié: 30 mars 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Kravtsov, Vitali1925 000 $
Kakko, Kaapo33 300 000 $
Gauthier, Julien2880 000 $
Roy, Nicolas43 250 000 $
Roslovic, Jack43 500 000 $
Blais, Samuel21 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Roy, Nicolas [Droits de RFA]
VGK
  1. Robertson, Matthew
2.
NYR
  1. Konovalov, Ilya
  2. 2023 2e round pick (EDM)
  3. 2024 3e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar [Droits de RFA]
3.
NYR
  1. Gavrikov, Vladislav
  2. Roslovic, Jack [Droits de RFA]
  3. Robinson, Eric
Détails additionnels:
Gavrikov extension for 3.65m x 4 yr
CBJ
  1. Trouba, Jacob
  2. Lindgren, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
UFA Rights for Andrew Copp
Rachats de contrats
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: 1 433 333 $
  • Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
  • Anthony Deangelo: 883 334 $
  • Brad Richards: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $78 533 969 $0 $4 582 500 $3 966 031 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Kreider, Chris
6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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Zibanejad, Mika
8 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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Lafrenière, Alexis
925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Roy, Nicolas
3 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
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Kakko, Kaapo
3 300 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
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Kravtsov, Vitali
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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Chytil, Filip
2 300 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Roslovic, Jack
3 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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Robinson, Eric
1 600 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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Goodrow, Barclay
3 641 667 $
AG, C, AD
NTC
UFA - 5
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Blais, Samuel
1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Miller, K'Andre
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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Fox, Adam
9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
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Shesterkin, Igor
5 666 667 $
G
UFA - 3
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Gavrikov, Vladislav
2 800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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Lundkvist, Nils
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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Konovalov, Ilya
842 500 $
G
UFA - 1
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Jones, Zachary
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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Schneider, Braden
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Hunt, Dryden
762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Nemeth, Patrik
2 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
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Reaves, Ryan
1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1

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30 mars à 16 h 49
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How is Georgiev worth a 2nd + 3rd?
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30 mars à 17 h 0
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They trades are all over the place.... georgiev might pull a end if lucky, Robertson doesnt get Roy, and the cbj trade is just wack
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30 mars à 17 h 9
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have u watched Georgiev play over the past 3 seasons?
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30 mars à 17 h 11
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Vlad (with an extension) is most definitely a 1st+. Rosy is probably a 1st-equivalent, and Robinson is a 2nd or so. We don't need more LD, so Lindgren doesn't really do much for us, and to take on Trouba would require a bribe pick/ prospect - plus, guaranteed he doesn't waive to go to Columbus. Copp would obviously have to come with an extension, though we honestly don't need Ws more as we need Cs at this point.

All told, too many holes in this trade for me to like it as is.
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30 mars à 17 h 32
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
have u watched Georgiev play over the past 3 seasons?


Sure. Georgiev just had the best goaltending game the Rangers have ever had since they kept track of advanced goalie stats (I think it was 6 goals saved above expected). Have you?
30 mars à 17 h 43
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Rangers are not trading Lindgren or Trouba, plus Trouba would not waive his NMC. Rangers D corp is set for the next 2 years at least.
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30 mars à 17 h 44
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Quoting: dopplsan
Vlad (with an extension) is most definitely a 1st+. Rosy is probably a 1st-equivalent, and Robinson is a 2nd or so. We don't need more LD, so Lindgren doesn't really do much for us, and to take on Trouba would require a bribe pick/ prospect - plus, guaranteed he doesn't waive to go to Columbus. Copp would obviously have to come with an extension, though we honestly don't need Ws more as we need Cs at this point.

All told, too many holes in this trade for me to like it as is.


Yeah we’re pretty far off in evaluations here. Trouba’s market value is somewhere between Risto and Jones in a trade. It’s more than Gavrikov even with an extension. Some would say the difference is more than the value of Robinson.

Lindgren for Rosy is pretty even.

Makes sense for you guys tbh. You fix your RHD issues, Lindgren does everything Gavi does while being younger and has team control. Copp gives you a 2C that can actually play D and does everything Rosy can do offensively. A pretty clear upgrade there.
30 mars à 23 h 9
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Yeah we’re pretty far off in evaluations here. Trouba’s market value is somewhere between Risto and Jones in a trade. It’s more than Gavrikov even with an extension. Some would say the difference is more than the value of Robinson.

Lindgren for Rosy is pretty even.

Makes sense for you guys tbh. You fix your RHD issues, Lindgren does everything Gavi does while being younger and has team control. Copp gives you a 2C that can actually play D and does everything Rosy can do offensively. A pretty clear upgrade there.


Yeah, but, how many people out here are applauding the received value of the Risto or Jones trade? 😂

That’s my point here - Trouba doesn’t really do anything for us. He’s a RD, sure, but I don’t necessarily buy him as the Top-Pairing guy that would change the make-up of our blue line.He’s getting paid $8M, but playing more like a $5M-$6M guy. Giving anything in value for him alone that is even within the ballpark of the Jones trade is a waste.
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31 mars à 12 h 32
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Quoting: dopplsan
Yeah, but, how many people out here are applauding the received value of the Risto or Jones trade? 😂

That’s my point here - Trouba doesn’t really do anything for us. He’s a RD, sure, but I don’t necessarily buy him as the Top-Pairing guy that would change the make-up of our blue line.He’s getting paid $8M, but playing more like a $5M-$6M guy. Giving anything in value for him alone that is even within the ballpark of the Jones trade is a waste.


I'm not saying it's the wisest move - nor was the Nurse contract, or the Lindholm trade/contract, or the Jones trade, or the Risto trade or the Chiarot trade. But that's the market. Physical 6-3 Dmen who play all situations and put up points get pretty massive returns. That's just what the league is now.

And frankly, Trouba's got more even strength points than Werenski right now despite Columbus scoring more often at 5v5. And Zach's in line to make 9.5 mil. I mean of course it's not likely (that Trouba would be traded - if he was, this would be the sort of return), but it kinda makes sense for you guys as a franchise with a sizable amount of cap room, guys like Nyqvist and Voracek coming off the books and not a ton of alternative avenues to bring a comparable player in for cheaper - particularly without giving up picks. I mean Peeke is rough in his current role. Ceulmans if he hits his ceiling is merely as good as Trouba and you're going to need some time to develop your F's.

I think the only way it doesn't make much sense as a roster building idea is if you're trying to tank. But frankly I think your roster is too good to effectively tank.
31 mars à 12 h 49
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Sure. Georgiev just had the best goaltending game the Rangers have ever had since they kept track of advanced goalie stats (I think it was 6 goals saved above expected). Have you?


Ah yes the one game that rules out the past 3 seasons of 0.910,0.905,0.894
31 mars à 13 h 9
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I'm not saying it's the wisest move - nor was the Nurse contract, or the Lindholm trade/contract, or the Jones trade, or the Risto trade or the Chiarot trade. But that's the market. Physical 6-3 Dmen who play all situations and put up points get pretty massive returns. That's just what the league is now.

And frankly, Trouba's got more even strength points than Werenski right now despite Columbus scoring more often at 5v5. And Zach's in line to make 9.5 mil. I mean of course it's not likely (that Trouba would be traded - if he was, this would be the sort of return), but it kinda makes sense for you guys as a franchise with a sizable amount of cap room, guys like Nyqvist and Voracek coming off the books and not a ton of alternative avenues to bring a comparable player in for cheaper - particularly without giving up picks. I mean Peeke is rough in his current role. Ceulmans if he hits his ceiling is merely as good as Trouba and you're going to need some time to develop your F's.

I think the only way it doesn't make much sense as a roster building idea is if you're trying to tank. But frankly I think your roster is too good to effectively tank.


CBJ still pass. Not worth the value given up.
31 mars à 14 h 18
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Ah yes the one game that rules out the past 3 seasons of 0.910,0.905,0.894


I mean if you're just going to judge all shots against and defenses in front of the goaltender the same way then you're going to end up making the same mistake Seattle did with Grubbauer. Hopefully you'd be smart enough to avoid that.
 
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