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Goli extended Fiala looking like hes out

Créé par: HeadHighSauce
Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 29 mars 2022
Publié: 29 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Goligoski extended. What else needs to be added here. Zacha is a 20 goal guy and Boqvist is...well he's cheap. But the real prize here is the first
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77 000 000 $
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  1. Boqvist, Jesper [Droits de RFA]
  2. Zacha, Pavel [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
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Shane Wright protected but otherwise this is a top 6 pick.
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29 mars 2022 à 18 h 12
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Take the 1st out and swap it for your most average bottom pair defenseman.
29 mars 2022 à 18 h 21
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Quoting: Caerii
Take the 1st out and swap it for your most average bottom pair defenseman.


Why 😂😂😂😂
29 mars 2022 à 18 h 22
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Why 😂😂😂😂


pretty sure he's just bummed at the recent moves, based on his comment history
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29 mars 2022 à 18 h 22
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Why 😂😂😂😂


Because I'm mad on the internet and have no faith in Guerin to get a good return for a player he doesn't value as he should for whatever reason
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29 mars 2022 à 18 h 22
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pretty sure he's just bummed at the recent moves, based on his comment history


Yeah that’s what I figured
29 mars 2022 à 18 h 29
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Because I'm mad on the internet and have no faith in Guerin to get a good return for a player he doesn't value as he should for whatever reason


I recommend going outside. It's wonderful out there compared to the internet.
29 mars 2022 à 18 h 30
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I recommend going outside. It's wonderful out there compared to the internet.


Already out here walking the dog, it's nice, you're right
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29 mars 2022 à 18 h 30
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Am i the only one that noticed Zacha a 20 goal scorer?
29 mars 2022 à 18 h 32
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Am i the only one that noticed Zacha a 20 goal scorer?


17/51*82 = 27.333
13/56*82 = 19.035

We can do raw totals if you want but then I don't think you'd like the return for a 59 point player winger who wants 7M
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29 mars 2022 à 18 h 50
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
17/51*82 = 27.333
13/56*82 = 19.035

We can do raw totals if you want but then I don't think you'd like the return for a 59 point player winger who wants 7M



20 goal scorer imply that he reach that milestone regularly. Not once in covid Season. David Clarkson once score 30 goal that havent made him a 30 goal scorer. And i am pretty sure if Minnesota shop Fiala their will be many suitors who will offer similar return. Fiala has been near the top 50 In points produced over the past 3 season and have similar total then Svechnikov, Nylander and Marchesault so he could target the 7 millions range.
29 mars 2022 à 19 h 13
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20 goal scorer imply that he reach that milestone regularly. Not once in covid Season. David Clarkson once score 30 goal that havent made him a 30 goal scorer. And i am pretty sure if Minnesota shop Fiala their will be many suitors who will offer similar return. Fiala has been near the top 50 In points produced over the past 3 season and have similar total then Svechnikov, Nylander and Marchesault so he could target the 7 millions range.


Svechnikov - 21
Nylander - 22
Marchessault - 28 (5M AAV)

Cmon man.
29 mars 2022 à 19 h 15
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Svechnikov - 21
Nylander - 22
Marchessault - 28 (5M AAV)

Cmon man.



Nylander is 25 but I still don't see why any of this means Fiala isn't worth 7M?
29 mars 2022 à 19 h 22
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Here's a list of Fiala's peers in terms of offensive production in his time with the Wild (playing predominantly with third liners, mind you)

Nicklas Backstrom
Elias Lindholm
Nazem Kadri
Teuvo Teravainen
Alex DeBrincat
Patrice Bergeron
Anze Kopitar
Andrei Svechnikov
William Nylander
Evgeny Kuznetsov
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Nikolaj Ehlers
Patrik Laine
Elias Pettersson
Ryan O'Reilly
Mathew Barzal
Sam Reinhart
Sean Couturier
Tomas Hertl
Pavel Buchnevich
...........................
Tyler Bertuzzi
Timo Meier
Jonathan Marchessault
Dylan Larkin
Claude Giroux
Brock Boeser
Jakub Vrana
Clayton Keller
Taylor Hall
Bo Horvat
Logan Couture


I can go on but at this point any of the players I list won't even be close to matching Fiala's offense. They'd be about as far away from Fiala as Fiala is from Ovechkin, Gaudreau, Mark Stone.

The dashed line represents where Fiala falls, the dotted line represents where I believe the difference starts to get significant

Look at that list and tell me he doesn't have a right to ask for at least 7
29 mars 2022 à 19 h 23
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Nylander is 25 but I still don't see why any of this means Fiala isn't worth 7M?


I think he IS worth the 7M but it’s why you gonna take a “paced 20 goals in the last two years” return (with a fifth overall pick in this scenario)

Nylander was 22 when the deal was signed, though.
29 mars 2022 à 19 h 24
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Svechnikov - 21
Nylander - 22
Marchessault - 28 (5M AAV)

Cmon man.


23
27
28

Yeah those are call number and they make no sense just like the one you stated earlier.
Come on man.
29 mars 2022 à 19 h 24
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I think he IS worth the 7M but it’s why you gonna take a “paced 20 goals in the last two years” return (with a fifth overall pick in this scenario)

Nylander was 22 when the deal was signed, though.

I think the offer is more than fair. I thought you were implying Fiala's on ice contribution isn't worth more than those guys.
29 mars 2022 à 19 h 27
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Nylander is 25 but I still don't see why any of this means Fiala isn't worth 7M?


Not sure why either, he is just pissed because Zacha isn’t a 20 goal scorer and he got on a rampage about it.
Toffoli was on pace for 50 last yeat no one will call him a 50 goal scorer. It is me who doesn’t get it or?
29 mars 2022 à 19 h 29
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Quoting: Joblow
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27
28

Yeah those are call number and they make no sense just like the one you stated earlier.
Come on man.


They are the ages at which the players were signed to their comparable deals. Fiala is older than the 2 7M players and younger than the 5M player. Now, Fiala /is/ worth the 7M based on his last 2 years of production (65 point pace and 78 point pace) but those are the years in which Pavel Zacha paced as 20 goal scorer (27 and 19)
29 mars 2022 à 19 h 31
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I think the offer is more than fair. I thought you were implying Fiala's on ice contribution isn't worth more than those guys.


No it was a point about Joblow calling Fiala a 70 point guy (but not Zacha a 20G guy) and age-related contract comparable. Sorry it got a little confusing.
29 mars 2022 à 19 h 31
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Not sure why either, he is just pissed because Zacha isn’t a 20 goal scorer and he got on a rampage about it.
Toffoli was on pace for 50 last yeat no one will call him a 50 goal scorer. It is me who doesn’t get it or?


Zacha is as much a 20 goal scorer as Fiala is a 30 goal or 70 point scorer though. I think that's the point. And it's not incorrect.
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29 mars 2022 à 19 h 33
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They are the ages at which the players were signed to their comparable deals. Fiala is older than the 2 7M players and younger than the 5M player. Now, Fiala /is/ worth the 7M based on his last 2 years of production (65 point pace and 78 point pace) but those are the years in which Pavel Zacha paced as 20 goal scorer (27 and 19)


So he would have reach 20 goal only once is that it? And he become a 20 goal scorer?
29 mars 2022 à 19 h 34
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No it was a point about Joblow calling Fiala a 70 point guy (but not Zacha a 20G guy) and age-related contract comparable. Sorry it got a little confusing.


And i am not recalling at any point talking about Fiala being a 70 point player. You just made that up in your furious rampage.
29 mars 2022 à 19 h 36
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Zacha is as much a 20 goal scorer as Fiala is a 30 goal or 70 point scorer though. I think that's the point. And it's not incorrect.


So Toffoli is a 50 goal scorer that it’s
29 mars 2022 à 19 h 37
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And i am not recalling at any point talking about Fiala being a 70 point player. You just made that up in your furious rampage.


Im sorry you're right. It was another user with a similar name. My apologies. I'm certainly not furious, nor do I think I'm on a rampage lol
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29 mars 2022 à 19 h 39
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Im sorry you're right. It was another user with a similar name. My apologies. I'm certainly not furious, nor do I think I'm on a rampage lol


Have a nice one!
 
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