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The Willy Nilly Trade

Créé par: jassan28
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 29 mars 2022
Publié: 29 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 985 000 $
21 450 000 $
11 200 000 $
11 250 000 $
85 885 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. Dobson, Noah [Droits de RFA]
  3. Varlamov, Semyon (2 500 000 $ retained)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $82 498 250 $212 500 $0 $1 750 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
950 000 $950 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 985 000 $1 985 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
762 500 $762 500 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
835 000 $835 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 2
5 885 000 $5 885 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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29 mars 2022 à 2 h 40
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Can't just sneak Mrazek in there lol
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29 mars 2022 à 2 h 44
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You mean the unrealistic trade smile
I broke this down in my mind (way too long to go through here) and would decline from an islanders perspective.
29 mars 2022 à 6 h 56
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Ah yes the ever so realistic 11 piece trade
29 mars 2022 à 7 h 2
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Quoting: islesadist
Can't just sneak Mrazek in there lol


Islander fans, lol you are getting the best player in the trade 2 top prospects and a 1st along with a good young RD and a capable goalie for a decent young RD and an old goalie who's overpaid and some picks and a depth roster player. This is a landslide win for you. It's literally gross for the leafs.
29 mars 2022 à 7 h 3
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Quoting: UBS_ARENA
You mean the unrealistic trade smile
I broke this down in my mind (way too long to go through here) and would decline from an islanders perspective.


Dobson starts with Matthews and the leafs add eh? This is 100% a landslide win for you.
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29 mars 2022 à 7 h 22
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That's utterly terrible for the leafs. They dont even think about that
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29 mars 2022 à 8 h 8
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Quoting: UBS_ARENA
You mean the unrealistic trade smile
I broke this down in my mind (way too long to go through here) and would decline from an islanders perspective.


That's good, but TOR would have already declined before you finished your break down.
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29 mars 2022 à 8 h 49
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bad trade for us.
29 mars 2022 à 9 h 5
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Quoting: UBS_ARENA
You mean the unrealistic trade smile
I broke this down in my mind (way too long to go through here) and would decline from an islanders perspective.


yeah this trade is an absurd overpay by the leafs so not sure what you were doing all that time thinking
29 mars 2022 à 10 h 5
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both teams decline.

in terms of value to their teams, Dobson & Nylander are pretty close. Nylander might be the better player right now, but Dobson is only 21 and has taken a major leap this year to looking like a guy who could be top pair on a ton of teams.

Jumping to the bottom of the trade, then, Mrazek & 1st for a 4th is probably a fair value to dump him.

That leaves the following:
To TOR
Beauvillier
Varlamov (50% retained)
2023 2nd

To NYI
LIljegren
Knies
Robertson

Huge overpay for Toronto but also not a return that the a "win-now" Islanders team is going to want to make. For better or worse, they're going to want to upgrade with NHL players if they move a package like Beau/Dobson/Varlamov. Nylander obviously upgrades Beau, but Mrazek is a huge downgrade from Varlamov at this point. Liljegren might be worth a look but your best case scenario is that he reaches Dobson's level (which is hard to anticipate since he's behind him now and is a year older than Noah.) Knies & Robertson will probably turn out to be good players, but one look at Oliver Wahlstrom's development should tell you that it may take a few years to happen - between management's insistence on bringing prospects along slowly, added to the lack of open forward spots because most of the core being signed through 2023-24, and you begin to see the very real possibility that Knies & Robertson wouldn't be consistent contributors to the Islanders for 3-4 years. Not saying I agree with that kind of philosophy, but just paying attention to how things are run with this GM/coach combo makes it a very possible scenario.
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29 mars 2022 à 18 h 43
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Dobson starts with Matthews and the leafs add eh? This is 100% a landslide win for you.


If you wish ill break it down but why would the islanders trade 3 nhl players for 1.5 and take on extra cap?
29 mars 2022 à 18 h 46
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Islander fans, lol you are getting the best player in the trade 2 top prospects and a 1st along with a good young RD and a capable goalie for a decent young RD and an old goalie who's overpaid and some picks and a depth roster player. This is a landslide win for you. It's literally gross for the leafs.


2 top prospects lol. Idk what you call a top prospect but it seems like you have quite a big range thats considered "tpp prospects"
Also mrazek is not capable at all
29 mars 2022 à 18 h 55
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yeah this trade is an absurd overpay by the leafs so not sure what you were doing all that time thinking


Oh right i forgot. Robertson is a surefire HOFer and knies is the best prospect since crosby. I forgot about those things.
29 mars 2022 à 20 h 45
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If you wish ill break it down but why would the islanders trade 3 nhl players for 1.5 and take on extra cap?


Because that 1 NHL player is better than all the other players involved and you are getting 2 top prospects as well which could better than anything coming back to TO. It's a huge win for the Islanders but like I mentioned your backup, 3rd pair defender and middle 6 30 point winger are better than Matthews.
29 mars 2022 à 20 h 46
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2 top prospects lol. Idk what you call a top prospect but it seems like you have quite a big range thats considered "tpp prospects"
Also mrazek is not capable at all


Robertson and Knies are both highly regarded. But I guess neither have a chance at being a 30 point winger so it's a bad trade for the Islanders.
29 mars 2022 à 21 h 1
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Islander fans, lol you are getting the best player in the trade 2 top prospects and a 1st along with a good young RD and a capable goalie for a decent young RD and an old goalie who's overpaid and some picks and a depth roster player. This is a landslide win for you. It's literally gross for the leafs.


Noah Dobson is going to be the most valuable piece of that entire trade very soon
29 mars 2022 à 22 h 3
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Noah Dobson is going to be the most valuable piece of that entire trade very soon


Liljegren is a "good young RD" according to him but dobson is a "decent young RD" its crazy.
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29 mars 2022 à 22 h 5
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Robertson and Knies are both highly regarded. But I guess neither have a chance at being a 30 point winger so it's a bad trade for the Islanders.


Someone whos projection is becoming a 30 point winger isnt a top prospect.
 
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