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Giroux Fiala and White for Dvorak swap

Créé par: dsmitts01
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 25 mars 2022
Publié: 25 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Not saying Dorion will get both of them, but they would be the perfect options to help this team.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
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Pick, 2022 top 5
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OTT
  1. Dvorak, Christian
Détails additionnels:
Not gonna happen but curious what people think of this
MTL
  1. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
  2. White, Colin
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Brannstrom could be decent 3rd pair defenseman but can help your pp
2.
OTT
  1. Fiala, Kevin [Droits de RFA]
MIN
  1. Abramov, Vitaly [Liste de réserve]
  2. Järventie, Roby
  3. Pinto, Shane
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
They key here is Pinto. In order to get fiala, Sens have to give up a quality player and Minny could use Centres. Jarventie is progressing well, not nhl ready but very young with top 6 potential.
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OTT
ARI
  1. Gustavsson, Filip
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
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25 mars 2022 à 21 h 22
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Sens should not trade Shane pinto or trade Gus to dump Zaitzev and I doubt Montreal has any interest in white
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25 mars 2022 à 21 h 24
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Habs will only trade Dvorak if they make their money back on him. If not they will keep him
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25 mars 2022 à 21 h 25
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Habs will only trade Dvorak if they make their money back on him. If not they will keep him


I think they would take a first rounder for him
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25 mars 2022 à 21 h 26
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Sens should not trade Shane pinto or trade Gus to dump Zaitzev and I doubt Montreal has any interest in white


Friedman reported that Hughes had interest in White at the deadline. I agree we shouldn't trade PInto, but Minny will be looking for a young NHL player (especially on an ELC). If Sens are serious about contending, giving up Pinto is neccesary for Pinto
25 mars 2022 à 21 h 28
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Friedman reported that Hughes had interest in White at the deadline. I agree we shouldn't trade PInto, but Minny will be looking for a young NHL player (especially on an ELC). If Sens are serious about contending, giving up Pinto is neccesary for Pinto


No it's not, just trade a first and another propect, Fiala is not worth that much, Pinto will also be key for us at our peak as a great third line center. You also overpaid for everything.
25 mars 2022 à 21 h 29
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Habs will only trade Dvorak if they make their money back on him. If not they will keep him


Quoting: jet11567
I think they would take a first rounder for him


They won't that's their problem because he only got that much because Montreal was a desperate team looking for a player after the KK offersheet and Arizona fleeced them for an okay 2nd center. They will never get their money back or their assets, he is probably only worth a 2nd+ another late pick.
25 mars 2022 à 21 h 32
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No it's not, just trade a first and another propect, Fiala is not worth that much, Pinto will also be key for us at our peak as a great third line center. You also overpaid for everything.


We can't just give Brannstrom, Jarventie and a 2nd. Minnesota will want quality assets that can help them now. Fiala has 56 points in 61 games this year and is an RFA, his value is high right now
25 mars 2022 à 21 h 33
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They won't that's their problem because he only got that much because Montreal was a desperate team looking for a player after the KK offersheet and Arizona fleeced them for an okay 2nd center. They will never get their money back or their assets, he is probably only worth a 2nd+ another late pick.


Plus that was a Bergevin trade too, so Hughes probably doesn't feel obligated to keep Dvorak
25 mars 2022 à 21 h 34
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Quoting: dsmitts01
Friedman reported that Hughes had interest in White at the deadline. I agree we shouldn't trade PInto, but Minny will be looking for a young NHL player (especially on an ELC). If Sens are serious about contending, giving up Pinto is neccesary for Pinto


I would not trade Pinto. JBD or Thomson + Jarventie + a 1st in 2023 should be enough
25 mars 2022 à 21 h 34
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Habs will only trade Dvorak if they make their money back on him. If not they will keep him


Can't imagine they'll get their money back after this season. Would be better to see if he can have a comeback year and raise his price.
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We can't just give Brannstrom, Jarventie and a 2nd. Minnesota will want quality assets that can help them now. Fiala has 56 points in 61 games this year and is an RFA, his value is high right now


A mean like a future first and another propect, but I don't think Fiala is the way to go, will cost a lot of money and they'll be good cheaper options out their like Kubalic or Kunin.
25 mars 2022 à 21 h 39
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A mean like a future first and another propect, but I don't think Fiala is the way to go, will cost a lot of money and they'll be good cheaper options out their like Kubalic or Kunin.


Dorion has scouted Fiala many times and according to Michael Russo, the Sens love him. We need established top 6 guys, not chances
25 mars 2022 à 21 h 41
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I would not trade Pinto. JBD or Thomson + Jarventie + a 1st in 2023 should be enough


I don't want to either, but quality players need quality going back. Unless your Buchnevich LOL
25 mars 2022 à 21 h 44
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I don't want to either, but quality players need quality going back. Unless your Buchnevich LOL


The Reinhart return is pretty fair . JBD or Thomson plus a top 5 protected 2023 1st should be enough. If they want more, they can get have Jarventie. Other than that, move on.
25 mars 2022 à 21 h 50
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The Reinhart return is pretty fair . JBD or Thomson plus a top 5 protected 2023 1st should be enough. If they want more, they can get have Jarventie. Other than that, move on.


Minny reportedly wants a player coming back though. I would prefer giving up that proposal but I don't think they accept it
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Minny reportedly wants a player coming back though. I would prefer giving up that proposal but I don't think they accept it


If they want Pinto, I walk away. You could do a deal without Pinto, we have the assets
25 mars 2022 à 22 h 1
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A mean like a future first and another propect, but I don't think Fiala is the way to go, will cost a lot of money and they'll be good cheaper options out their like Kubalic or Kunin.


The gap between Fiala and the other 2 are massive. Fiala is a legit top 6 and the others are middle 6 guys. We need legit top 6, not more middle 6 guys like Formenton and Brown
25 mars 2022 à 22 h 3
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The gap between Fiala and the other 2 are massive. Fiala is a legit top 6 and the others are middle 6 guys. We need legit top 6, not more middle 6 guys like Formenton and Brown


Fair, just don't like the idea of what you'd have to pay, but I guess cause Batherson is on the good contract you can pay him, but I'd worry about the future cap, also I don't like giving up prospects but I get that you can't build forever. I just hope that LA gets him, signs him to a rediculous contract and Ottawa goes and gets Olofsson or Giroux. Not Boeser, he is not the way, unless he is unqualified.
25 mars 2022 à 22 h 3
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If they want Pinto, I walk away. You could do a deal without Pinto, we have the assets


I'm just trying to find a deal that both fan bases can understand. How would u feel about Greig instead of Pinto
25 mars 2022 à 22 h 21
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I'm just trying to find a deal that both fan bases can understand. How would u feel about Greig instead of Pinto


No.
You could do a deal with JBD or Thomson + Jarventie + 2023 1st
25 mars 2022 à 22 h 27
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Solid team but goaltending still suspect
25 mars 2022 à 22 h 37
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Montreal is nottrading Dvorak for less than a 1st + B/C prospect. Plain and simple, we can't afford to who else is going to play 2C Poehling, Evans, Dauphin?! Nope just Dvo.
 
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