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Final Hours part 2

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Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 21 mars 2022
Publié: 21 mars 2022
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NJD
    Whats his price
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    VAN
    1. Marino, John
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
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      Whats his price
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      1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
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        Potential Boeser Trade?
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        2. Lysell, Fabian
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          21 mars 2022 à 2 h 58
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          I doubt Pens touch Boeser without an extension. Everything out their says no GM wants to touch that 7.5M QO. And Boeser is looking to get paid.

          Good luck though. Hope a team bites.

          Dermott as a 2nd pairing is wishful thinking?? Dont u think??

          And u traded Miller got Debrusk, a prospect, two 1st but kept him on your team?? Vancouver fans are alittle loopy.
          21 mars 2022 à 3 h 35
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          Quoting: LetsGoPens69
          I doubt Pens touch Boeser without an extension. Everything out their says no GM wants to touch that 7.5M QO. And Boeser is looking to get paid.

          Good luck though. Hope a team bites.

          Dermott as a 2nd pairing is wishful thinking?? Dont u think??

          And u traded Miller got Debrusk, a prospect, two 1st but kept him on your team?? Vancouver fans are alittle loopy.


          I originally made another trade with the rangers for miller but I later took it out and didn't want to re make the trade with Boston again

          Idk I'm still pretty high on dermott he was drafted 32nd overall basically a first round pick. Only 25 years old. He has the potential but never got the opportunity in Toronto. Hopefully, he still has his best days ahead of him. He still has many years left in the league and can become a big part of Vans D-Core
          21 mars 2022 à 3 h 42
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          Quoting: CanucksDecline
          I originally made another trade with the rangers for miller but I later took it out and didn't want to re make the trade with Boston again

          Idk I'm still pretty high on dermott he was drafted 32nd overall basically a first round pick. Only 25 years old. He has the potential but never got the opportunity in Toronto. Hopefully, he still has his best days ahead of him. He still has many years left in the league and can become a big part of Vans D-Core


          His 2nd round pedigree doesn’t mean much now. He has real NHL tape/games out there. Projecting him out now is based off that, not off his draft pedigree. You kind of know what he is.

          He’s was ok 3 years ago. But still at his best not a legit NHL 2nd pairing on a good/play-off team. 7th-8th D-man, bottom pairing at best.
          21 mars 2022 à 3 h 49
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          Quoting: LetsGoPens69
          His 2nd round pedigree doesn’t mean much now. He has real NHL tape/games out there. Projecting him out now is based off that, not off his draft pedigree. You kind of know what he is.

          He’s was ok 3 years ago. But still at his best not a legit NHL 2nd pairing on a good/play-off team. 7th-8th D-man, bottom pairing at best.


          yea he's still young tho and I don't thin Keefe liked his style of play that much he rarely got to play big minutes
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          21 mars 2022 à 4 h 7
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          yea he's still young tho and I don't thin Keefe liked his style of play that much he rarely got to play big minutes


          Ya, ya. But projecting a player with AHL/NHL games would be projected more off that than their draft pedigree.

          And u understand like asset management as far as team building goes?? Not being an a*s. But that 2nd round value doesn’t follow him once he’s traded.

          The Leafs had an investment of a high 2nd/almost 1st round pick into him. They got 2 good seasons and 2 below average seasons from him and a 3rd round pick back in return

          That would be like good asset management. Really good asset management would get like getting a 1st back for a 2nd/3rd round pick investment.

          So it’s actually like better for Vancouver. You guys only have an 3rd round investment into him. So him having even acouple ok seasons and get a 4th -5th round pick would be good asset management.

          If a team has a 1st round pick investment into a player. You want to give them every opportunity b/c it’s a big investment. The team used a huge asset, a 1st round pick, to acquire that player.

          And just losing players for nothing in free agency is considered bad asset management. Unless he killed it and had 5-10 years of above average play and made up whatever the value for a 1st round pick is.

          U can google the concept. All GMs and operations guys in every sport use the concept now. There’s like long definitions explaining everything and values and stuff.
          21 mars 2022 à 6 h 33
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          Jesper Bratt = Untouchable
          21 mars 2022 à 7 h 47
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          Bratt not happening
          21 mars 2022 à 7 h 58
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          Dickinson has had such a rough run with the Canucks I doubt the Jets trade for him unless the price is low.
          21 mars 2022 à 8 h 33
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          NJD is not trading Bratt. Frank Seravelli is a fraud.
          21 mars 2022 à 8 h 35
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          They said Bratt extension would come after deadline. I am guessing 6 x $7 million maybe. Give or take.
          21 mars 2022 à 8 h 36
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          Jesper Bratt = Untouchable


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          Bratt not happening


          Quoting: NJDevils1317
          NJD is not trading Bratt. Frank Seravelli is a fraud.


          Did someone say for trade?
          The only thing I saw was for possible extension post -deadline
          21 mars 2022 à 8 h 51
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          Quoting: LetsGoPens69
          Ya, ya. But projecting a player with AHL/NHL games would be projected more off that than their draft pedigree.

          And u understand like asset management as far as team building goes?? Not being an a*s. But that 2nd round value doesn’t follow him once he’s traded.

          The Leafs had an investment of a high 2nd/almost 1st round pick into him. They got 2 good seasons and 2 below average seasons from him and a 3rd round pick back in return

          That would be like good asset management. Really good asset management would get like getting a 1st back for a 2nd/3rd round pick investment.

          So it’s actually like better for Vancouver. You guys only have an 3rd round investment into him. So him having even acouple ok seasons and get a 4th -5th round pick would be good asset management.

          If a team has a 1st round pick investment into a player. You want to give them every opportunity b/c it’s a big investment. The team used a huge asset, a 1st round pick, to acquire that player.

          And just losing players for nothing in free agency is considered bad asset management. Unless he killed it and had 5-10 years of above average play and made up whatever the value for a 1st round pick is.

          U can google the concept. All GMs and operations guys in every sport use the concept now. There’s like long definitions explaining everything and values and stuff.


          So using your logic ,how do you explain the Hagel trade .is that good asset management.not trying to be a smart ass but your logic does not always apply.Thats why every one is entitled to their OWN opinion.
          21 mars 2022 à 9 h 7
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          Quoting: NHLfan10506
          Did someone say for trade?
          The only thing I saw was for possible extension post -deadline


          Serravello has him at #15 in his top 50 trade targets-Its BS

          15. Jesper Bratt
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          Scoop: Bratt is arguably the most surprising name to hit the Trade Targets board this season. He would seem to be everything that the Devils want and need moving forward. He’s 23, he’s scored north of a point-per-game this season with 60 points in 57 games, and he’s earned everything he’s gotten as he’s risen through the ranks in the New Jersey organization. Yet, his name is out there. The Devils haven’t been hanging up the phone when asked about him. Why? Even for a team with tons of cap space and next to no long-term commitments outside of Jack Hughes, Nico Hischier and Dougie Hamilton, the sense is Bratt is going to be hugely expensive as an arbitration eligible player this summer. We saw a talented player like Pavel Buchnevich moved for salary reasons last summer. Could Bratt follow?
          21 mars 2022 à 9 h 14
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          Serravello has him at #15 in his top 50 trade targets-Its BS

          15. Jesper Bratt
          Left Wing, New Jersey Devils
          Age: 23
          Contract: Pending RFA, $2.75 million AAV
          🆕 Last Rank: NR
          Scoop: Bratt is arguably the most surprising name to hit the Trade Targets board this season. He would seem to be everything that the Devils want and need moving forward. He’s 23, he’s scored north of a point-per-game this season with 60 points in 57 games, and he’s earned everything he’s gotten as he’s risen through the ranks in the New Jersey organization. Yet, his name is out there. The Devils haven’t been hanging up the phone when asked about him. Why? Even for a team with tons of cap space and next to no long-term commitments outside of Jack Hughes, Nico Hischier and Dougie Hamilton, the sense is Bratt is going to be hugely expensive as an arbitration eligible player this summer. We saw a talented player like Pavel Buchnevich moved for salary reasons last summer. Could Bratt follow?


          Must need clicks
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          21 mars 2022 à 9 h 55
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          Quoting: NHLfan10506
          Did someone say for trade?
          The only thing I saw was for possible extension post -deadline


          It's all a telephone game where apparently Frank said on TSN to keep an eye on Bratt, but it came off as a trade, but I agree, I think it is extension.
          21 mars 2022 à 16 h 33
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          Quoting: remowilliams
          So using your logic ,how do you explain the Hagel trade .is that good asset management.not trying to be a smart ass but your logic does not always apply.Thats why every one is entitled to their OWN opinion.


          ???? Its not my logic. It’s a common concept that every GM/ player personal person uses in every sport. Google it. People just want to argue about everything. Jesus.

          They give values and everything. It’s a numbers game. Although u do have to account for the personal sh*t that goes along with sports too. Every franchise uses a combination of the 2.

          As far as Hagel. Obviously, we’ll see. I would guess, extremely positive asset management for Chicago. To get that return. But again, Hagel just isn’t a 2nd round pick value; that value won’t follow a player his career. You’d have to look at a chart to see what his value is. That chart is based on, the assets used to acquire him(draft assets, trade assets, contract he’s getting paid etc), his production, contract amount and term.

          So a players value is a combination of the assets used to acquire him plus production, production years, contract, etc. So Dermott value for Toronto isn’t just a 2nd round pick value; it’s also his production of 4 NHL seasons(or whatever he played). He’ll get a number value.

          And like I said, I’ll almost guarantee that getting a 3rd round pick in return for a player with a value of a2nd round pick plus 2 quality years and 2 average years of NHL production would be positive asset management.

          As far as Colorado. Again, we’ll see. Obviously if he just walks in free agency, it would probably very poor or negative asset management. They used a ton of assets to acquire acquire him. So again, his value to the team will depend on that, plus his contract, term, production and years of production, compared against the number value based on assets used to acquire him. Plus the return they get when they move him. Again, if he just walks in free agency I would almost be positive it would be considered bad or negative asset management.
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