Guerin isn't giving a 1st no matter what you think. It's been made clear he's not parting with a 1st for a rental especially a G. So no

All teams say no

He’s basically getting a first back, or at least in 15-20 when this is a 40 team league it will be a first.

He's not getting a 1st back. You don't know what thay 1st is. Or what that 2nd is. Even than Guerin say no. He's not getting rid of a 1st and it been made abundantly clear. Not with judd brackett aboard

Here's your issue.

You are banking on something that doesn't carry weight. You are saying the Wild should be willing to give up their 1st round pick for Fluery because the difference between 23rd overall and 40th overall is minimal.

It absolutely does.

That's the difference between a Carson Lambos... a top 4 potential dman, versus a Jack Peart.. bottom 4 potential dman.

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But it's okay, we should happily give up a 1st round pick and drop 17 spots in the draft for 2 months of a goalie who hasn't been that much better than Talbot this year because, reasons. I mean, the Wild don't need their 1st at all in a deep draft this year because they'll have FOUR 2nd rounders this year to offset the difference and aren't going to be in cap hell the next three years either. Oh, hooray. What a fantastic deal.... Guerin would be an idiot to turn this down!!! /sarcasm 🙄

The facts are thus.

1) Fluery's play this year means his value is barely worth a 3rd, maybe a 4th. But given the fact it's in division, fine a 2nd round pick is the cost of inflation for that.

And a 2nd is more than fair for Fluery, especially at this point. Davidson did his bargaining position no favors by playing Fluery last night.

2) Davidson doesn't have a leg to stand on in the first place demanding a 1st back. He has no leverage. None. Fluery will go where he wants. And the only team he's willing to go to is offering a 2nd for him.

That's his price. Not a 1st, but a 2nd.

3) Fluery was acquired for nothing. A 2nd in return for him is already a hefty return on Chicago's investment. Don't push your luck, and get what you can. Because it's already a win for Chicago.

1. Agree to disagree between wild fans and hawks fans if you don't think 17 spots in the draft is worth Flower

2. You clearly haven't watched flower all year if you think his play is only worth a 3rd. You need to watch the games not just look at stats. Flower single handedly carries the hawks in every game he plays in. His stats don't reflect it to the outside viewed because the hawks defence is HORRIBLE. Imagine how good he would be behind the Wild defence? Likley putting up the same numbers that WON HIM THE VEZINA last year.

3. What the hawks gave up (or didn't give up) for flower is irrelivant. It was a unique situation where vegas needed to clear the cap space desperatly, and the hawks were one of the few teams that weren't trying to tank and also could afford the full 7 mil. What we paid has nothing to do with his value now. Value is based off what other teams will pay now, not what we paid in the past. At 3.5 mil there are suitors for flower should he decide to agree to the trade

Return for MAF supposedly a 2nd that can upgrade to a first, don’t know conditions