Good point.

Buffalo passes

That’s fine, but can you elaborate on why, so it’s constructive? My understanding is that BUF is looking for a RD to play with Power.

Are they looking for someone more stay at home? Do they want more of a vet type? Want to try their luck at UFAs?

Yeah probably a want a vet. They can’t trade Peterka. He has been really good in Rochester will be on the team next year. They are probably going to trade for a RD.

Yeah I know Peterka has been good, but so has Quinn. And with Tuch coming over, I thought the wings were pretty well set.

I’d try and structure something around Dumba, but I’d imagine BUF is on his 10 team NT list

My understanding of Durzi is offensive defenseman. Buf would be looking for a vet stay at home. My LA target, would be Roy, and the cost would be less then JJ. Hope that helps. Value is probably fine, don’t know much on Durzi, but heard good things.

Makes sense, thanks. Yeah Roy is great, but I’m not sure you can get him for less than JJ. He’s a bona fide top 4 RD, and if he were on the block, someone would certainly pony up that level of value. But that’s really neither here nor there, in this convo.

Durzi is solid, but def offensive minded. If they want a stay at home, it wouldn’t be a good fit.

You need to ice 12 forwards, I'm pretty sure they can squeeze in Peterka. Sabres are planning to build around Tompson, Tuck, Peterka, Quinn, Krebs, Cozens, Dahlin, and Powers. Not saying those guys are untouchable but a team would have to blow the Sabres socks off to get one of them. Sabres would move out Olofsson or Mittlestadt before they move Peterka.

I understand that, but you also have logjams with Skinner and Okposo. And at a certain point, it’s irresponsible to not at least consider reallocating your value. If you have a surplus of value at wing, just because you can make room for everyone, doesn’t mean you should. Especially when you have a shortage of value at RD.

I’m not saying BUF would or should do Peterka for Durzi, but I do think it’s the type of move that warrants more consideration than it’s getting. It’s not like Durzi (or some other proxy player you exchange Peterka for) is a slouch.

I’ll disagree that Roy cost JJ, respectively. I feel stay at home defenseman just get undervalued, and while he’s good, he’s not great. And with the Dman pushing LA on the right side, he’s expendable. Not saying cheap, but JJ would be the premium price for him, imo

He’s 27, shoots right and has 2 more years at a very friendly contract. Kings would most definitely get a Peterka level player, if they dealt him.

Matt Roy, extended for 3 years at $3.1M by LA, has been a great two way defenceman with excellent penalty impacts for the Kings so far in his young career. Great price for a no-brainer top four guy. #GoKingsGo pic.twitter.com/Mw4N8cHK1D

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Peterkas stock seems to keep climbing. Interesting article on the athletic for right d targets for Buffalo, most are bigger defensive defensemen. That's what I would try for, I mean you already have 2 first overall defensemen on the roster who can move the puck, it's our own zone that we (and I think most bad teams) seem to get hemmed up in. Bottom line, peterka seems like a premium that we won't wanna pay for an offensive right shot d.

I understand, my point is actually he’s 27 vs a 20year old who should have gone in the first round and showing as much. Like I said, respectably, I like Roy. If the cost is JJ I don’t do it. Doubt Adams would either

As a Buffalo fan, they won't move any combination of Tuch, Cozens, Power, Dahlin, Krebs, Quinn, Peterka, Samuelsson, or Thompson. They are so focused on drafting/developing their young talent and Peterka is one of their best.

Okposo has one year after this and will be a bottom-six forward, so he won't get in the way of Peterka's playing time. The only younger players I can see them moving for other younger players are Mittelstadt, Olofsson, Ryan Johnson, or Jacob Bryson - which they'll have to move one to get a right-shot defenseman.

I would imagine they're looking at more of defensive-defensemen for Dahlin and Power because of the offensive upside of those two, and most likely a veteran for Power.

Not commenting on the value here, but Roy is not available for at least another season. Maybe at next year's trade deadline, more likely at the 2023 draft.

Yeah and that’s completely fine. I totally get why BUF wouldn’t do it. My point was just that Roy likely returns a Peterka level prospect.

Lots of potential ways BUF can solve for the RD gap.

And that’s fair enough. I think Buf is looking for a Roy type is my point, or at least should, for their young studs

Yeah that’s fine, the discussion went on a tangent over to Roy as a hypothetical. We weren’t necessarily swapping him in this trade.

I think adams would consider moving anybody not named- dahlin and power. You have to give to get. I like olofsson more than most, but I'm not sure that he's returning the kind of right d, and I'm not sure any of the others you mention do either. I'm not interested in moving prime assets for two dimes and a button, but if the right d is available, I bet he pulls the trigger.

Yeah that makes sense. This whole proposal was less about Durzi and more about addressing the needs of all 3 teams involved. In some capacity, I’d expect them all to address them this offseason.

If BUFs preference is to pursue a more budget friendly option on RD - ie someone that doesn’t require Peterka level value to acquire - then I have no issue with that.

IMO that is a fair trade.
Peterka could be the odd man out and Buffalo needs a young RHD.

Please give me the URL for the Matt Roy graph.
Thank you very much.