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Can We Keep Him

Créé par: OldSenileGuy
Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 17 mars 2022
Publié: 17 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I'm not sure what happened here. I started with trying to see if Vatrano was keep-able after this year, and somehow ended with this.

I do hope that Chicago deal or a similar one happens though.

The Calgary deal would happen at the draft.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 650 000 $
22 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
43 000 000 $
2800 000 $
2850 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Hagel, Brandon
Détails additionnels:
+ Calvin De Haan at 2022 deadline
CHI
  1. Barron, Morgan
  2. Kravtsov, Vitali [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
2.
NYR
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (ARI)
ARI
3.
NYR
  1. Monahan, Sean (2 000 000 $ retained)
CGY
  1. Blais, Samuel
  2. Robertson, Matthew
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $81 928 969 $0 $3 650 000 $571 031 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 4
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4 375 000 $4 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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762 500 $762 500 $
C
UFA - 2
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
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5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
G
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG
RFA - 1
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 2
800 000 $800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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DG/DD
UFA - 2

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17 mars 2022 à 23 h 40
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The flames are probably gonna try to dump monahan. I can guarantee you you can pick him up without giving up a first. And even then I don’t think you want him as your second line center, he’s been really bad these past couple years
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17 mars 2022 à 23 h 42
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Quoting: JGDD11
The flames are probably gonna try to dump monahan. I can guarantee you you can pick him up without giving up a first. And even then I don’t think you want him as your second line center, he’s been really bad these past couple years


Oh I know, but the Rangers aren't gonna have a lot of options for a 2C unless there's a BIG trade that goes down. If Calgary is willing to eat $2M for a year, I'd be willing to give Monahan a shot at redemption.
17 mars 2022 à 23 h 45
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Can we say major gross overpay on Monahan, A 1st is totally insane. Probably doesn't return more then a 4th round pick.
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17 mars 2022 à 23 h 46
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Flames would trade Monahan for a minimal return as long as they aren't retaining
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17 mars 2022 à 23 h 54
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Rangers need the retention in this scenario. Hence the overpay.
18 mars 2022 à 0 h 1
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Hagel is going to cost more than Barron + Kravtsov and hopefully he doesn't get dealt.
18 mars 2022 à 0 h 4
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Would definitely rather Strome over Monahan. Though it's tight with giving Frankie 3mil. I don't see a reason for Kappo to get anything over 1.5mil at this point. I think it's also time to move on from Chytil and have Goodrow take the 3C. These moves make way for Strome at 5-6mil with Hagel and Vatrano, and even a bit more breathing room for a reputable backup
18 mars 2022 à 0 h 8
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Quoting: OldSenileGuy
Oh I know, but the Rangers aren't gonna have a lot of options for a 2C unless there's a BIG trade that goes down. If Calgary is willing to eat $2M for a year, I'd be willing to give Monahan a shot at redemption.


You could have Dvorak for that price. He's better than Monahan, and only 4.45M for next 3 years.
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18 mars 2022 à 1 h 15
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Oh I know, but the Rangers aren't gonna have a lot of options for a 2C unless there's a BIG trade that goes down. If Calgary is willing to eat $2M for a year, I'd be willing to give Monahan a shot at redemption.


So signing Strome isn't an option?
18 mars 2022 à 2 h 58
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So signing Strome isn't an option?


Not if I’m running the team it isn’t.
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18 mars 2022 à 3 h 23
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Not if I’m running the team it isn’t.


Thankfully your not.
18 mars 2022 à 8 h 36
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If you think Monahan is worth more in trade than Hagel, I'm glad you aren't a real GM.
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18 mars 2022 à 13 h 23
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Quoting: delneggs
So signing Strome isn't an option?


Strome will cost 6M a year, they can't afford him next year.
18 mars 2022 à 13 h 29
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Quoting: LIRIK
Strome will cost 6M a year, they can't afford him next year.


I disagree. If it takes $6m/year to sign Strome they can afford it by trading Chytil and moving Goodrow to the 3C slot, They could trade Nemeth as well.
18 mars 2022 à 14 h 55
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I disagree. If it takes $6m/year to sign Strome they can afford it by trading Chytil and moving Goodrow to the 3C slot, They could trade Nemeth as well.


They have 10.7M to sign Strome, Kakko, Blais, Vatrano, 2nd goalie and 2-3 depth players. Yea maybe they trade Nemeth and Chytil and get an extra 4.8M . But then they have to replace them.

Strome 6M
Kakko 2.5M
Vatrano 2M (if they resign)
Blais 1.5M
Goalie 1M
3 depth players 3M
Nemeth and Chytil replacements 2M

That's 18M total, with 15.5M in cap space if you trade Nemeth and Chytil. You're over by 2.5M . Could cut a few dollars here and there, but not enough. If you don't resign Vatrano, you still gotta replace him by a 1M player.
18 mars 2022 à 15 h 9
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They have 10.7M to sign Strome, Kakko, Blais, Vatrano, 2nd goalie and 2-3 depth players. Yea maybe they trade Nemeth and Chytil and get an extra 4.8M . But then they have to replace them.

Strome 6M
Kakko 2.5M
Vatrano 2M (if they resign)
Blais 1.5M
Goalie 1M
3 depth players 3M
Nemeth and Chytil replacements 2M

That's 18M total, with 15.5M in cap space if you trade Nemeth and Chytil. You're over by 2.5M . Could cut a few dollars here and there, but not enough. If you don't resign Vatrano, you still gotta replace him by a 1M player.


Nemeth is replaced by Jones and Goodrow takes 3C. Kakko prob gets less than that on a 2 year deal and they have some prospects like Cuylee and Othmann that may make the team nest year, both on cheap ELC's. They can get a back up for a little less than $1/m. It will be tight, but is can be done. Vetrano is the wildcard. Is he a rental or not? Perhaps they plan to sign him and trade Blais? I hope not, but could happen. My point is they have to have a legit 2C, which Strome has been for them, and Chytil isn't close to being. If they let Strome walk, they will need to spend as much or more to replace him with anyone as productive as he has been, so why not just keep him? The group loves him and he is still only 28.
18 mars 2022 à 21 h 49
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Quoting: delneggs
Nemeth is replaced by Jones and Goodrow takes 3C. Kakko prob gets less than that on a 2 year deal and they have some prospects like Cuylee and Othmann that may make the team nest year, both on cheap ELC's. They can get a back up for a little less than $1/m. It will be tight, but is can be done. Vetrano is the wildcard. Is he a rental or not? Perhaps they plan to sign him and trade Blais? I hope not, but could happen. My point is they have to have a legit 2C, which Strome has been for them, and Chytil isn't close to being. If they let Strome walk, they will need to spend as much or more to replace him with anyone as productive as he has been, so why not just keep him? The group loves him and he is still only 28.


I know they want to keep him, but can they? Like i said, you're over by 2.5M, and i didn't count Nemeth and Chytil. Every player i added, i counted for 1M on the cap. Even if they cost 800k each, you're still over by 1.5M . You'd have to get rid of Vatrano and replace him by another less than 1M player. So basically, you have to let go of Nemeth, Chytil and Vatrano, and replace them by low cost players. Yeah, maybe that work. We'll see.
18 mars 2022 à 23 h 10
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I know they want to keep him, but can they? Like i said, you're over by 2.5M, and i didn't count Nemeth and Chytil. Every player i added, i counted for 1M on the cap. Even if they cost 800k each, you're still over by 1.5M . You'd have to get rid of Vatrano and replace him by another less than 1M player. So basically, you have to let go of Nemeth, Chytil and Vatrano, and replace them by low cost players. Yeah, maybe that work. We'll see.


As far as I know the cap increases to $82.5m next season. If they trade Chytil and Nemeth, they have $17,333,531 in cap space with 13 players signed. If you sign UFA's Strome ($6m), Rooney ($850k), Kinkaide ($850k) and Vetrano ($2.75m), plus RFA's Kakko ($2.0m) and Blais ($1.5m), and promote Jones, Lundqvist and Barron (all $925k), you have 22 players and $608,531 in cap space left. Its very tight, but possible. It's also very possible Drury signs either Vetrano or Blais and trades the other at the draft. Of course, he also has to move Chytil and Nemeth. Drury has some work to do for sure, we will see what happens. I just hope he doesn't think Chytil can step into the 2C slot, because that's trouble IMO.
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19 mars 2022 à 0 h 0
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Quoting: delneggs
As far as I know the cap increases to $82.5m next season. If they trade Chytil and Nemeth, they have $17,333,531 in cap space with 13 players signed. If you sign UFA's Strome ($6m), Rooney ($850k), Kinkaide ($850k) and Vetrano ($2.75m), plus RFA's Kakko ($2.0m) and Blais ($1.5m), and promote Jones, Lundqvist and Barron (all $925k), you have 22 players and $608,531 in cap space left. Its very tight, but possible. It's also very possible Drury signs either Vetrano or Blais and trades the other at the draft. Of course, he also has to move Chytil and Nemeth. Drury has some work to do for sure, we will see what happens. I just hope he doesn't think Chytil can step into the 2C slot, because that's trouble IMO.


Good work sir. They could even give a bit more than 6m for Strome. Interesting. They could get a nice pick for Chytil.
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19 mars 2022 à 2 h 9
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Good work sir. They could even give a bit more than 6m for Strome. Interesting. They could get a nice pick for Chytil.


It's going to be an interesting off-season for sure. I think a lot will depend on how they do in the playoffs.
 
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