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Créé par: Caniac555
Équipe: 2021-22 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 17 mars 2022
Publié: 17 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Canes current LTIR relief available = $1,792,500
Bear included in deal creates additional $2,000,000
Total available is $3,792,500

Lindholm @ 50% retained = $2,602,778 (BUF)
Rakell double chopped down to 25% = $947,361 (ANA/BUF)
Total in = $3,550,139

Retention costs
ANA (Rakell 50% / $1,894,722) = 4th (SEA only got 7th for retaining $1M)
BUF (Lindholm 50% / $2,602,778 + Rakell 25% / $947,361) = $3,550,139 = 2nd + prospect (MTL got a 4th to retain $1.75m so this should be ample)

ANA gets 1st, 2nd, Bear + 2 prospect for Lindholm and Rakell
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Lindholm, Hampus
12 602 778 $
Rakell, Rickard
1947 361 $
Transactions
1.
CAR
    Lindholm (no retention) and Rakell (50% retained) to BUF
    ANA
    1. Bear, Ethan
    2. Hreschuk, Aidan [Liste de réserve]
    3. Suzuki, Ryan
    4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
    5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
    6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
    2.
    CAR
      Retention on Lindholm and Rakell
      BUF
      1. Honka, Anttoni [Liste de réserve]
      2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
      Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
      2022
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      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CBJ
      2023
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      2024
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de CAR
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      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2381 500 000 $80 667 924 $0 $1 037 500 $832 076 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      Rakell, Rickard
      947 361 $947 361 $
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
      C
      UFA - 3
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      5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 8
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
      AD
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      C, AG
      NMC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      6 100 035 $6 100 035 $
      C
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 4
      Lindholm, Hampus
      2 602 778 $2 602 778 $
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      G
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      800 000 $800 000 $
      DG/DD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
      AD
      RFA - 3
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      725 000 $725 000 $
      C, AG, AD
      UFA - 1

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      17 mars 2022 à 10 h 14
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      Ducks just retain on both to get a better return, no need for BUF to poach value off of our two most valuable trade chips
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      17 mars 2022 à 10 h 15
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      You can’t do both - you retained on Manson

      Quoting: Salzy
      Ducks just retain on both to get a better return, no need for BUF to poach value off of our two most valuable trade chips
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      17 mars 2022 à 10 h 21
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      Quoting: Caniac555
      You can’t do both - you retained on Manson


      I thought you could do 3

      When a team trades a player, they have the option to retain a part of their salary (and cap hit). The team who retains the salary then pays the retained percentage of the salary, and also retains the percentage of the cap hit until the contract expires. The following requirements must be met to retain salary:

      All teams are limited to a maximum of 3 retained salary contracts per season.
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      17 mars 2022 à 10 h 26
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      Ok so switch Buffalo and Anaheim for the 4th and 2nd + prospect retention. Are you saying Ducks turn down this offer?

      Quoting: Salzy
      I thought you could do 3

      When a team trades a player, they have the option to retain a part of their salary (and cap hit). The team who retains the salary then pays the retained percentage of the salary, and also retains the percentage of the cap hit until the contract expires. The following requirements must be met to retain salary:

      All teams are limited to a maximum of 3 retained salary contracts per season.
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      17 mars 2022 à 10 h 28
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      Quoting: Caniac555
      Ok so switch Buffalo and Anaheim for the 4th and 2nd + prospect retention. Are you saying Ducks turn down this offer?


      No, they definitely take it.
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      17 mars 2022 à 10 h 29
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      Quoting: Caniac555
      Ok so switch Buffalo and Anaheim for the 4th and 2nd + prospect retention. Are you saying Ducks turn down this offer?


      Not the entire package, the supposed ask (Different than what he gets more than likely) for Lindholm is a first a teams top prospect and "another good piece"

      1st, Suzuki, Bear for Lindholm
      Honka + 2 seconds for Rakell

      Could drop the 4th and Hreschuk, and realistically drop a second to a lower pick (3/4)

      Id take that
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      17 mars 2022 à 10 h 34
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      Quoting: Salzy
      Not the entire package, the supposed ask (Different than what he gets more than likely) for Lindholm is a first a teams top prospect and "another good piece"

      1st, Suzuki, Bear for Lindholm
      Honka + 2 seconds for Rakell

      Could drop the 4th and Hreschuk, and realistically drop a second to a lower pick (3/4)

      Id take that


      Don't think a team's top prospect works well as a description since those vary. And most "real" Top prospect won't be added. I think that from the Canes, a 1st and Suzuki would be enough for Lindholm (Canes would add a 4th or something for the retention). Don't think Rakell will get that much, maybe a single 1st with 50% retention or a 2nd + a prospect (not Honka).
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      17 mars 2022 à 10 h 36
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      Quoting: TZ11
      Don't think a team's top prospect works well as a description since those vary. And most "real" Top prospect won't be added. I think that from the Canes, a 1st and Suzuki would be enough for Lindholm (Canes would add a 4th or something for the retention). Don't think Rakell will get that much, maybe a single 1st with 50% retention or a 2nd + a prospect (not Honka).


      Seravalli said this morning we are looking for "a first a teams best prospect and another good piece"
      17 mars 2022 à 10 h 42
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      Quoting: Salzy
      Seravalli said this morning we are looking for "a first a teams best prospect and another good piece"


      Got the link? (Not questioning what you're saying, just want to read / hear it as well.)

      I'd love that return, I just can't see it happening. But I'm always rather pessimistic when theorising about possible returns, so who knows.
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      17 mars 2022 à 10 h 52
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      Quoting: TZ11
      Got the link? (Not questioning what you're saying, just want to read / hear it as well.)

      I'd love that return, I just can't see it happening. But I'm always rather pessimistic when theorising about possible returns, so who knows.


      https://www.sportsnet.ca/590/fan-morning-show/

      Make sure you click on hour 3, He starts talking about the Ducks at 2 minutes in

      The quote in question comes up at 8 minutes
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      17 mars 2022 à 11 h 12
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      Quoting: Salzy
      https://www.sportsnet.ca/590/fan-morning-show/

      Make sure you click on hour 3, He starts talking about the Ducks at 2 minutes in

      The quote in question comes up at 8 minutes


      I'd love to return but again, doubt it. But I do think Lindholm gets moved considering what's been said by multiple insiders and Ducks reporters (by that I mean that the extension talks seem to have stopped). I'm glad we'll have an answer in a few days since neither Rakell nor Lindholm will just walk in FA.
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      17 mars 2022 à 11 h 14
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      Quoting: TZ11
      I'd love to return but again, doubt it. But I do think Lindholm gets moved considering what's been said by multiple insiders and Ducks reporters (by that I mean that the extension talks seem to have stopped). I'm glad we'll have an answer in a few days since neither Rakell nor Lindholm will just walk in FA.


      If I had to guess he gets sightly more than Chariot
      Something in the ballpark of a 1st, a 3rd and a teams 2nd-4th prospect
      seeing Chariot got a first a 4th and FLA (roughly) 5th best prospect

      The ranking of the prospect would be vastly different for each team depending on the strength of the prospect pool
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      17 mars 2022 à 11 h 18
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      There is absolutely no chance the Canes pay that much for rentals
      17 mars 2022 à 11 h 58
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      I agree with this btw - but also would like to have a good LW and a top 4 defenseman…

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      There is absolutely no chance the Canes pay that much for rentals
      17 mars 2022 à 14 h 15
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      Quoting: Salzy
      Not the entire package, the supposed ask (Different than what he gets more than likely) for Lindholm is a first a teams top prospect and "another good piece"

      1st, Suzuki, Bear for Lindholm
      Honka + 2 seconds for Rakell

      Could drop the 4th and Hreschuk, and realistically drop a second to a lower pick (3/4)

      Id take that


      I'd go further -- I'd take a first, a second, and Suzuki, Bear and Honka for Hampus and Rickard with 50% retention on both.
      17 mars 2022 à 21 h 53
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      Canes would still need a 3rd team to take Rakell’s additional 25% to get under the cap.

      Quoting: OldNYIfan
      I'd go further -- I'd take a first, a second, and Suzuki, Bear and Honka for Hampus and Rickard with 50% retention on both.


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