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Chychrun

Créé par: BlackieO
Équipe: 2021-22 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 16 mars 2022
Publié: 16 mars 2022
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Bruins Fans - Trying to figure out what would be heading to Arizona. Is this realistic?
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16 mars 2022 à 9 h 23
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Carlo will not be moved
16 mars 2022 à 9 h 23
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add hall and we have a trade!
16 mars 2022 à 9 h 25
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carlo and probably freddy wont be moved. i think you swap freddy with debrusk (immediately signs an extension) and swap carlo with zboril or vaak. and then you add pieces and also have kessel coming back.
16 mars 2022 à 9 h 31
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Arizona takes that and runs, But noway Boston does this. Carlo isn't going anywhere.
16 mars 2022 à 9 h 43
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Ewww
16 mars 2022 à 9 h 47
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Carlo will not be moved


I was wondering if he would have to be in or not. Looking forward to see if it's the Bruins or the Kings for Chychrun.
16 mars 2022 à 9 h 59
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Overpay!
16 mars 2022 à 10 h 30
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Not even close to accurate. Massive overpay by Boston.
16 mars 2022 à 10 h 30
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Quoting: BlackieO
I was wondering if he would have to be in or not. Looking forward to see if it's the Bruins or the Kings for Chychrun.


That kills any negotiations.

Reported asking price is a 1st, a young roster player, and top prospect.

I think the young roster player would be vaakanainen, the top prospect would be lysell.
16 mars 2022 à 10 h 51
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no no no too much. Bruins should not get rid of Carlo. I would keep Lysell
16 mars 2022 à 11 h 2
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no no no too much. Bruins should not get rid of Carlo. I would keep Lysell


Can’t keep lysell and trade for chychrun. Just not a shot.
16 mars 2022 à 11 h 9
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Can’t keep lysell and trade for chychrun. Just not a shot.


Depends on what other teams are giving up. They can offer Lohrei, I think Lysell, a 1st and ++ is too much. I think Bruin fans are too fast to trade Lysell.
16 mars 2022 à 11 h 12
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Depends on what other teams are giving up. They can offer Lohrei, I think Lysell, a 1st and ++ is too much. I think Bruin fans are too fast to trade Lysell.


Nope. Just not a snowballs chance in hell. Do you know who chychrun is?

Every team thats ever talked to arizona beats Boston’s offer if lysell isn’t involved.
16 mars 2022 à 11 h 20
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Nope. Just not a snowballs chance in hell. Do you know who chychrun is?

Every team thats ever talked to arizona beats Boston’s offer if lysell isn’t involved.


Good for you. Most often I do not agree with your comments for a reason. Do you know who Chychrun is? Lysell? Instead of always giving your "expert" opinion just give a better proposal. What are other teams offering? Bruins are not deep on forwards in the system and you think they should give their best forward prospect? Ok I hope Sweeney is smarter than that
16 mars 2022 à 11 h 25
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Good for you. Most often I do not agree with your comments for a reason. Do you know who Chychrun is? Lysell? Instead of always giving your "expert" opinion just give a better proposal. What are other teams offering? Bruins are not deep on forwards in the system and you think they should give their best forward prospect? Ok I hope Sweeney is smarter than that


My better proposal is already on this post. You can scroll up and read it.

To get elite level talent, you have to give something up. If you disagree with my posts more often than not, maybe its because you want the bruins to somehow fleece all these teams of their top players without giving up top prospects.

Chychrun led all d men in goals last season. He was top 10 in norris voting. He’s 23 and signed at an awesome number for four seasons. If you think you get that without giving up the teams top prospect, i don’t know what to tell ya, but that’s not how this league works.


1st, lysell, vaakanainen, and probably a kicker.
16 mars 2022 à 11 h 34
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
My better proposal is already on this post. You can scroll up and read it.

To get elite level talent, you have to give something up. If you disagree with my posts more often than not, maybe its because you want the bruins to somehow fleece all these teams of their top players without giving up top prospects.

Chychrun led all d men in goals last season. He was top 10 in norris voting. He’s 23 and signed at an awesome number for four seasons. If you think you get that without giving up the teams top prospect, i don’t know what to tell ya, but that’s not how this league works.


1st, lysell, vaakanainen, and probably a kicker.


I disagree with your posts because more often than not they appear too elitist. You are too condescending. I know how the league works and I do not agree with overpaying. GM's might do it as well as you but if you think overpaying is good then great. I know you feel only your opinion is valid but many do not feel that way. So what are the other teams offering?
16 mars 2022 à 11 h 43
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I disagree with your posts because more often than not they appear too elitist. You are too condescending. I know how the league works and I do not agree with overpaying. GM's might do it as well as you but if you think overpaying is good then great. I know you feel only your opinion is valid but many do not feel that way. So what are the other teams offering?


Quoting: CMcAvoy73
My better proposal is already on this post. You can scroll up and read it.

To get elite level talent, you have to give something up. If you disagree with my posts more often than not, maybe its because you want the bruins to somehow fleece all these teams of their top players without giving up top prospects.

Chychrun led all d men in goals last season. He was top 10 in norris voting. He’s 23 and signed at an awesome number for four seasons. If you think you get that without giving up the teams top prospect, i don’t know what to tell ya, but that’s not how this league works.


1st, lysell, vaakanainen, and probably a kicker.


full trade:
kessel @ 50%
Chychrun

Debrusk
Vaak
2022 first
2023 third
lauko

Heres my thinking behind it. kessel replaces debrusk at a cheap cost of a 3rd. eichels return was krebs a first tuch and a 2nd/3rd swap between teams. skip the swap and just send lauko. debrusk and tuch are comparable and krebs has a little higher value than vaak but chychrun isnt in the same tier as eichel is. think thats a really solid offer and if that gets beat yknow what im okay with it because im not sending all my prospects away in one move or one year. you could supplant lohrei into this deal and shape it a little differently but lysell isnt going anywhere.
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16 mars 2022 à 11 h 45
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full trade:
kessel 50%
Chychrun

Debrusk
Vaak
2022 first
2023 third
lauko

Heres my thinking behind it. kessel replaces debrusk at a cheap cost of a 3rd. eichels return was krebs a first tuch and a 2nd/3rd swap between teams. skip the swap and just send lauko. debrusk and tuch are comparable and krebs has a little higher value than vaak but chychrun isnt in the same tier as eichel is. think thats a really solid offer and if that gets beat yknow what im okay with it because im not sending all my prospects away in one move or one year. you could supplant lohrei into this deal and shape it a little differently but lysell isnt going anywhere.


I am not a big Kessel fan to be honest, I would chase someone else at forward but I could live with that
16 mars 2022 à 11 h 58
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full trade:
kessel 50%
Chychrun

Debrusk
Vaak
2022 first
2023 third
lauko

Heres my thinking behind it. kessel replaces debrusk at a cheap cost of a 3rd. eichels return was krebs a first tuch and a 2nd/3rd swap between teams. skip the swap and just send lauko. debrusk and tuch are comparable and krebs has a little higher value than vaak but chychrun isnt in the same tier as eichel is. think thats a really solid offer and if that gets beat yknow what im okay with it because im not sending all my prospects away in one move or one year. you could supplant lohrei into this deal and shape it a little differently but lysell isnt going anywhere.


No interest in kessel, and arizona has no interest in this.
16 mars 2022 à 12 h 3
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I disagree with your posts because more often than not they appear too elitist. You are too condescending. I know how the league works and I do not agree with overpaying. GM's might do it as well as you but if you think overpaying is good then great. I know you feel only your opinion is valid but many do not feel that way. So what are the other teams offering?

You clearly don’t if you look at that kind of asset and say, “sure, but don’t give up a good prospect, even though the bruins got him with the 21st pick.”

Chychrun isn’t just a nice opportunity. It’s probably something that’s only on the market once every 10-20 years or so. Fabian lysell doesn’t get in the way of that.

And if you’re disagreeing with my points because you don’t like my tone, that’s a you problem.
16 mars 2022 à 12 h 11
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No interest in kessel, and arizona has no interest in this.


find me a top 6 forward that is available at a 3rd or less and is actually available. kessels numbers in the playoffs: 81 points in 96 games 34 goals 47 assists. he shows up in the playoffs too. idk why everyone is salty on that deal. honestly i dont see teams sending out the bag for chychrun. i like the player, but getting back more than eichel thats not gunna happen.
16 mars 2022 à 12 h 18
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find me a top 6 forward that is available at a 3rd or less and is actually available. kessels numbers in the playoffs: 81 points in 96 games 34 goals 47 assists. he shows up in the playoffs too. idk why everyone is salty on that deal. honestly i dont see teams sending out the bag for chychrun. i like the player, but getting back more than eichel thats not gunna happen.


Don’t care about the numbers. I think he’s a soft player that would hurt the team.

Chychrun should have far more value than eichel.
16 mars 2022 à 12 h 20
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Don’t care about the numbers. I think he’s a soft player that would hurt the team.

Chychrun should have far more value than eichel.


why? chychruns statline outside of last year is a 20 point guy that cant make it a full year without being hurt. highest gp was his rookie year at 68. his best year was last year in which he didnt replicate that production this year. hes a nice top 4 left dman but hes not this generational talent everyone seems to think he is.
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16 mars 2022 à 12 h 23
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why? chychruns statline outside of last year is a 20 point guy that cant make it a full year without being hurt. highest gp was his rookie year at 68. his best year was last year in which he didnt replicate that production this year. hes a nice top 4 left dman but hes not this generational talent everyone seems to think he is.


I’m talking about playing hockey, not stat line.
16 mars 2022 à 12 h 25
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I’m talking about playing hockey, not stat line.


sure when hes on the ice. hes missed a season and a half in his short 6 years in the league (not including covid and short seasons). He hasnt exactly wowed in any year except for last year.
 
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