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Counter offer for Fleury Hagel and Murphy

Créé par: Garak
Équipe: 2021-22 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 15 mars 2022
Publié: 15 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
CHI
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Knies, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
  3. Mrázek, Petr
  4. Niemelä, Topi [Liste de réserve]
  5. Robertson, Nicholas
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  7. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  8. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Fleury 50% retained + Mrazek cap dump = 1st
Hagel = Robertson + 1st
Murphy + Holl cap dump = Niemela + 2nd

Knies = because I want him. haha. I think a little extra coming back to CHI is warranted but Knies is probably overkill.
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15 mars 2022 à 17 h 51
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Holl is not a cap dump.
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15 mars 2022 à 17 h 52
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Holl is not a cap dump.


Then why are leafs fans trying to get rid of him so adamantly in almost every trade on ACGM?
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15 mars 2022 à 17 h 52
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You can't just add knies in for zero reasontears of joy
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15 mars 2022 à 17 h 54
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Then why are leafs fans trying to get rid of him so adamantly in almost every trade on ACGM?


thats what leaf fans do
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15 mars 2022 à 17 h 54
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You can't just add knies in for zero reasontears of joy


tears of joy tears of joy But I did it anyway. I was really just debating between him and Robertson. But then I just left him in there.
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15 mars 2022 à 17 h 57
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Then why are leafs fans trying to get rid of him so adamantly in almost every trade on ACGM?


The Leafs team is VERY good. But for a playoff run they want to improve. Upgrading Holl in our top 4 is a clear way to improve. He is still a good top 6 dman on any team but with how the Leafs D is constructed, he would be a clear target to improve. (and cap needs to go out for cap to come back in)

Holl could fetch a 3rd rounder easy. a 2nd rounder would not be out of the question.
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15 mars 2022 à 17 h 57
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take knies and a first out. add a second and abramov
15 mars 2022 à 18 h 2
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The Leafs team is VERY good. But for a playoff run they want to improve. Upgrading Holl in our top 4 is a clear way to improve. He is still a good top 6 dman on any team but with how the Leafs D is constructed, he would be a clear target to improve. (and cap needs to go out for cap to come back in)

Holl could fetch a 3rd rounder easy. a 2nd rounder would not be out of the question.


Idk. Maybe you're right. But to CHI, he would just be taking up a roster spot and cap space on a team that is trying to get younger.
15 mars 2022 à 18 h 3
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Quoting: odyssey
take knies and a first out. add a second and abramov


Well... take out Knies OR a 1st. Not both.
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15 mars 2022 à 18 h 4
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Well... take out Knies OR a 1st. Not both.


then its lopsided, id rather take knies out, keep mrazek and trade his contract elsewhere and take out that second
15 mars 2022 à 18 h 5
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Idk. Maybe you're right. But to CHI, he would just be taking up a roster spot and cap space on a team that is trying to get younger.


Either way, the trade you proposed won't happen. I see the Leafs being interested in all 3 pieces you listed, but you have 3 of our top 4 prospects and 2 1st rounders in there. That would not be worth it from the Leafs. I don't mind if the Leafs spend a lot but if they are giving all of that, we better be getting Chychrun and Fleury and JT Miller.
15 mars 2022 à 18 h 28
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Either way, the trade you proposed won't happen. I see the Leafs being interested in all 3 pieces you listed, but you have 3 of our top 4 prospects and 2 1st rounders in there. That would not be worth it from the Leafs. I don't mind if the Leafs spend a lot but if they are giving all of that, we better be getting Chychrun and Fleury and JT Miller.


TOR would have to move a heck of a lot more to get Chychrun Fleury and JT miller.
15 mars 2022 à 18 h 43
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Hey TO, here's our goalie (maybe it works out maybe it doesn't) a middle 6 winger (having a breakout 40pt pace season) and our Justin Holl, all we want in return is your goalie (maybe it works maybe it doesn't) all of your future picks , all of your prospects oh ya and roster players to replace our players.
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15 mars 2022 à 19 h 58
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Justin Holl has just as much value on ice as Murphy but makes half as much. Why is Holl the “cap dump” here?
16 mars 2022 à 9 h 30
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Justin Holl has just as much value on ice as Murphy but makes half as much. Why is Holl the “cap dump” here?


Idk. Ask all the other leafs fans that treat him like a cap dump in every other TOR related proposal. He doesn't have value to CHI though.
16 mars 2022 à 10 h 15
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Idk. Ask all the other leafs fans that treat him like a cap dump in every other TOR related proposal. He doesn't have value to CHI though.


Half the Leafs fans are ****ing morons, coming from one. A guy makes a couple of mistakes and suddenly he’s a cap dump. Holl is prone to the odd mistake but overall is one of our better defenders, and he makes a positive impact on the game consistently. People just pick him out due to him being less skilled than our other d men, but despite a bit less skill he still outperforms the others often. A very fine 4th/5th d man who plays PK
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16 mars 2022 à 10 h 33
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Half the Leafs fans are ****ing morons, coming from one. A guy makes a couple of mistakes and suddenly he’s a cap dump. Holl is prone to the odd mistake but overall is one of our better defenders, and he makes a positive impact on the game consistently. People just pick him out due to him being less skilled than our other d men, but despite a bit less skill he still outperforms the others often. A very fine 4th/5th d man who plays PK


I get that. I feel like people have the same feelings about Gus in CHI too. They just have an irrational hatred for him.
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