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(ANA/COL) - Manson for Helleson and 2023 2nd RD pick

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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 33
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Trade confirmed: Anaheim Ducks - Colorado Avalanche
Détails de la transaction
Les Ducks d'Anaheim font l’acquisition de:
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Drew Helleson · 0 $0 $0 $ (LAH/JR) (Droits de signature)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (COL - #59 - Carey Terrance)
Somme: 0 $0 $0 $
Variation: -2 050 000 $
Variation: -2 050 000 $
Variation: +218 050 000 $
Les Avalanche du Colorado font l’acquisition de:
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Josh Manson (2 050 000 $ retenus - 50%) · 2 050 000 $2 050 000 $0 $
Somme: 2 050 000 $2 050 000 $0 $
Variation: +2 050 000 $
Variation: +2 050 000 $
Variation: -218 050 000 $
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 34
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Fair deal
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 34
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Finally a trade
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 34
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This is fair imo
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 34
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Great for both sides

Ducks get a second and a prospect at a position of need for a defenseman that wouldn’t waive for arguably his two biggest suitors in Edmonton and Toronto. Who they were never getting a 1st for

Avs get a solid partner for Girard (I assume) for the playoffs
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 36
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It is a lot but COL is all in and Manson is a decent piece. Definitely in favour of ANH tho
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 36
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Anaheim got a 2nd + a very promising prospect for Manson??

CHIAROT FOR 10 1STS
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 36
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Good trade for both sides
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 37
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Does this mean that the Ducks are moving Lindholm and Rakell as well?
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 37
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This is huge for Colorado, a RHD who is solid defensively, probably will be paired with Girard who has had a terrible season, should compliment his game well.
14 mars 2022 à 18 h 37
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Based on what I've heard about Manson's game, looks like a great deal!
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 41
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Good start to the deadline week. I like this deal for both teams.
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 41
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I thought Manson would've netted a first or something. Looks better for the Avs right now.
14 mars 2022 à 18 h 43
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Manson is good but this is a steep price
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 44
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This is a very fair trade, slight edge to Anaheim because I really like Helleson but this works for both teams. Good trade.
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 46
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This is probably fair market value for Josh Manson, but I still think they're buying a bit on reputation not results. Still a perfectly capable Dman, but he's far from Josh Manson of old. That said, it's not gonna be difficult for Josh Manson to be really good on that Colorado blueline. I think they are a better team now than before, and they already had a real shot at the Cup.

I still voted in favour of Anaheim, because I'm a big believer in Drew Helleson. I'll add the extremely obvious caveate that if Colorado wins the Cup, they obviously won the trade. I'm very big on Drew Helleson's upside as a defensive Dman. He's a big frame RHD who moves really well and is very smart in his positional play and puck decisions. He's all of the things you could possibly want in a 2nd pair RHD long term when your 1RD is Jamie Drysdale
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 49
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I love helleson as a prospect 2nd pair potential. He was out of the picture with makar and barron.
2nd round pick is added.
Anaheim wins, due to the fact that Manson will not resign in Colorado, and those are very good pieces.
Thsi is about what I expect chiarot to get.
Nasty defense:

Toews - Makar
Girard- Manson
Byram - Johnson

These d pair fits are absolutely sick. If they get giroux, or another top 6 forward, they're my cup fave
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 51
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Manson will be a good 3rd pairing Dman

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Not sure if I’m COL signing him longterm after this playoff run. Dude will be 31 and has issues staying healthy
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 52
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Modifié 14 mars 2022 à 19 h 6
In this trade, Colorado is paying the same price for Josh Manson that they paid for Devon Toews.

https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/devon-toews



This is not a fair trade for Colorado.

I voted for the Anaheim Ducks.
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 56
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Quoting: sensonfire
In this trade, Colorado is paying the same price for Josh Manson that they paid for Devon Toews.

https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/devon-toews



This is not a fair trade for Colorado.

I voted for the Anaheim Ducks.


Not a good comp. The Toews trade was a fleece
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 56
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Fair for both sides, Colorado gets a RD they needed even if it’s a slight overpayment and Anaheim gets a promising D prospect and 2nd
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 57
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End of an era. RIP Manson to the Leafs threads, you will be missed.
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14 mars 2022 à 18 h 59
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Meh. The Ducks got good value for a third pairing-level D who has been declining for a few years now. Colorado gets a player who used to be kinda good and is an upgrade on their bottom pairing.

So the deal is fine.

The real issue is the Ducks holding onto him for so long as his value diminished. What could they have gotten two years ago?
14 mars 2022 à 19 h 0
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Not a good comp. The Toews trade was a fleece


Compare it to the Graves trade with New Jersey then.

https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/ryan-graves
14 mars 2022 à 19 h 16
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Being wrong is ok
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Really nice when a GM does what he says.
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