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Giroux and Copp

Créé par: Richard88
Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 12 mars 2022
Publié: 12 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Byram is back practicing with the team, albeit in a red non-contact jersey. If he returns does that mean the Avs don't go after a Dmen and instead put all their assets towards forwards instead of spreading the wealth to have enough for a Dman as well?
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Giroux, Claude (4 137 500 $ retained)
PHI
  1. Compher, J.T.
  2. Ranta, Sampo
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
2.
COL
  1. Copp, Andrew (1 820 000 $ retained)
WPG
  1. Jost, Tyson
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (COL)
3.
OTT
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (COL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $76 738 963 $1 741 463 $3 350 000 $4 761 037 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
0 $0 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
1 820 000 $1 820 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
908 333 $908 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 075 000 $1 075 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
725 000 $725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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12 mars 2022 à 22 h 54
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Landeskog is having knee surgery, So he's probably done for the season. Trades look fine. Anton Forsberg probably gets a 4th rounder.
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12 mars 2022 à 22 h 55
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Way too low on Forsberg. One bad game tonight doesnt singlehandedly tank his value.
12 mars 2022 à 23 h 1
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Way too low on Forsberg. One bad game tonight doesnt singlehandedly tank his value.


I didn't realize that Forsberg had a bad game, that's not what I'm basing this on. He's been passed around on waivers quite a bit and is a pending UFA depth goalie, I doubt he has much more value than a late pick.
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12 mars 2022 à 23 h 2
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Landeskog is having knee surgery, So he's probably done for the season. Trades look fine.


The surgery is only minor so the early talk is 4 weeks out. Avs could play the LTIR game if they want though, we'll see.
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12 mars 2022 à 23 h 4
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The surgery is only minor so the early talk is 4 weeks out. Avs could play the LTIR game if they want though, we'll see.


That's good didn't know the severity of the injury. And yeah they'll definitely take advantage of him being on LTIR.
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12 mars 2022 à 23 h 13
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Jets accept, unless they get offered a first.
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12 mars 2022 à 23 h 34
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If they feel like they can go get 2 forwards, I think this is my ideal combo. If they keep the Landeskog-Kadri-Nichushkin shutdown line together in the playoffs, it sets up for Giroux to play with MacKinnon and Rantanen while Newhook gets plenty of help in Burakovsky and Copp.

I’m convinced they’re also going to find a better partner for Girard (when he comes back). Which probably means it would take Landeskog going to LTIR to add a D and two forwards. If they went that route, I don’t think you have to give Jost. Just swap out a prospect of comparable value I’m of the opinion that they are better off subtracting as little as possible from the NHL roster while they make additions.
12 mars 2022 à 23 h 36
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I didn't realize that Forsberg had a bad game, that's not what I'm basing this on. He's been passed around on waivers quite a bit and is a pending UFA depth goalie, I doubt he has much more value than a late pick.


His numbers are exceptional on a very bad team this season. His value has been on the rise. If he doesnt return at least a 3rd (maybe a 4th) then Ottawa doesnt even consider moving him. He's been considerably better and a million times more consistent than Murray, not to mention he isnt on IR every other month.

Genuinely wouldnt be surprised if Ottawa finds a way to move on from Murray and ride Forsberg out a new deal.
12 mars 2022 à 23 h 43
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If they feel like they can go get 2 forwards, I think this is my ideal combo. If they keep the Landeskog-Kadri-Nichushkin shutdown line together in the playoffs, it sets up for Giroux to play with MacKinnon and Rantanen while Newhook gets plenty of help in Burakovsky and Copp.

I’m convinced they’re also going to find a better partner for Girard (when he comes back). Which probably means it would take Landeskog going to LTIR to add a D and two forwards. If they went that route, I don’t think you have to give Jost. Just swap out a prospect of comparable value I’m of the opinion that they are better off subtracting as little as possible from the NHL roster while they make additions.


Yeah Giroux and Copp would be my top two targets as well. That top 9 looks rock solid and better than any in the league.

If they do these trades I'm not sure there would be many trade-able assets left to go after a Dman.

As far as Jost and subtracting, if Avs add a couple of forwards it's inevitable that a body or two have to move the other way, not necessarily for cap reasons, but due to limitations of the roster size. You ideally don't want to be in a position where you're having to waive guys like NAK.
12 mars 2022 à 23 h 47
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Quoting: Richard88
If they do these trades I'm not sure there would be many trade-able assets left to go after a Dman.

As far as Jost and subtracting, if Avs add a couple of forwards it's inevitable that a body or two have to move the other way, not necessarily for cap reasons, but due to limitations of the roster size. You ideally don't want to be in a position where you're having to waive guys like NAK.


All true. Even if they LTIR Landeskog and have that cap flexibility, there’s still a limit to the assets they’re willing to spend.
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12 mars 2022 à 23 h 55
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Jets Decline
LHW Jost isn’t a need and takes up cap space needed for extending RFAs
13 mars 2022 à 1 h 33
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Doesn't look bad but I reckon the Avs still look for some insurance on D as well. Forsberg's price maybe gets pushed higher due to multiple bidders.
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13 mars 2022 à 12 h 30
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I didn't realize that Forsberg had a bad game, that's not what I'm basing this on. He's been passed around on waivers quite a bit and is a pending UFA depth goalie, I doubt he has much more value than a late pick.


Forsberg will fetch a 4th at the very least if the Sens decide to move him, he's top 10 in goals saved above expected right now.
13 mars 2022 à 13 h 46
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Forsberg could fetch a first from a desperate team, most likely a 2nd from a non-desperate team looking for depth, OTT declines
13 mars 2022 à 18 h 2
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Quoting: Richard88
I didn't realize that Forsberg had a bad game, that's not what I'm basing this on. He's been passed around on waivers quite a bit and is a pending UFA depth goalie, I doubt he has much more value than a late pick.


That narrative totally worked prior to the 2021-22 season. He's been a top-10 goalie this year. 3rd highest SV% (0.930) since December, just behind Shesterkin and Swayman. Well, it was before last night
13 mars 2022 à 20 h 30
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Forsberg will fetch a 4th at the very least if the Sens decide to move him, he's top 10 in goals saved above expected right now.


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Forsberg could fetch a first from a desperate team, most likely a 2nd from a non-desperate team looking for depth, OTT declines


According to NaturalStatTrick among goalies with minimum 500 mins payed Forsberg's stat rankings are:

- 16th in GSAA
- 20th in sv%
- 32nd in GAA
- 13th in HDSV%

Pretty solid numbers for a goalie with his caphit, but there's also a 7 year body of work where he has a 0.907sv% and 3.08 GAA. Someone might get desperate given how limited the goalie market is and pay a 4th, but talk of a 1st round pick is just silly talk.
13 mars 2022 à 22 h 7
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According to NaturalStatTrick among goalies with minimum 500 mins payed Forsberg's stat rankings are:

- 16th in GSAA
- 20th in sv%
- 32nd in GAA
- 13th in HDSV%

Pretty solid numbers for a goalie with his caphit, but there's also a 7 year body of work where he has a 0.907sv% and 3.08 GAA. Someone might get desperate given how limited the goalie market is and pay a 4th, but talk of a 1st round pick is just silly talk.


he'll be a lot closer to a 2nd or a 3rd than a 6th lmao
 
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