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just how I think their deadline will shape out

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Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 10 mars 2022
Publié: 10 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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THIS IS NOT THE VALUE I BELIEVE THEY HAVE JUST WHAT I THINK COULD HAPPEN
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  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. Lundkvist, Nils
  3. Nemeth, Patrik
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
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10 mars 2022 à 10 h 2
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Deal!! 😁😁
10 mars 2022 à 10 h 4
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Habs could get more making separate trades.
10 mars 2022 à 10 h 5
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Habs could get more making separate trades.


i think this is the exact kind of deal Hughes would make.

two NHL ready prospects, a roster player and a pick. He gets a little bit of everything.
10 mars 2022 à 10 h 8
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i think this is the exact kind of deal Hughes would make.

two NHL ready prospects, a roster player and a pick. He gets a little bit of everything.


Then he leaves value on the table.
10 mars 2022 à 10 h 10
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Then he leaves value on the table.


thanks Rob
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10 mars 2022 à 10 h 22
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I feel like the priority should be bottom 6 C and bottom 6 RW. I still believe in Chytil but he has not yet solidified himself as he 3C. Gauthier is nearly invisible and Hunt should really be on the 4th line when Kakko is back, so the Rangers need help on the wing for the third line.
10 mars 2022 à 10 h 25
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
i think this is the exact kind of deal Hughes would make.

two NHL ready prospects, a roster player and a pick. He gets a little bit of everything.


I agree and would take this deal, maybe we could get more for them separately but it wouldn't be much more IMO
10 mars 2022 à 10 h 31
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Rangers should be getting more for Nils and Krav
10 mars 2022 à 10 h 36
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Then he leaves value on the table.


how much value? quantify this for the audience.
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10 mars 2022 à 10 h 39
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
how much value? quantify this for the audience.


at least a 1st +.
10 mars 2022 à 10 h 55
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at least a 1st +.


let's break it down:
Chariot = ?
Lehkonen = ?
Allen = ?

Also, let's assume no retention, the Rangers don't need it.
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10 mars 2022 à 11 h 37
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Not so sure why people keep trading away Kravstov. First we all know about the situation in Russia. Second the Habs don’t have any need for a winger at the moment. They have Byron, Hoffman, Armia, Gallagher, Caufield, Drouin, and Pitlick (I assume they sign him back RFA) who all got term left after this season. that leave one spot that will likely be handed to either Harvey Pinard or Ylonen.
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10 mars 2022 à 12 h 8
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
let's break it down:
Chariot = ?
Lehkonen = ?
Allen = ?

Also, let's assume no retention, the Rangers don't need it.


Rumoured returns:
Chiarot = 1st, 3rd
Lehkonen = 1st, B prospect
Allen = havent seen a rumour yet. I wouldnt trade him for any less than a 2nd + B Prospect

Kravtsov and Lundqvist are 1st round picks, from 4 drafts ago. Lundqvist value is same or maybe slightly higher than a late first, Kravstov's value is lower + Russia situation right now.
Nemeth adds no value to Montreal

So arguably, the deal is missing value equivalent to 3rd, 2 B prospects
10 mars 2022 à 12 h 47
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Rumoured returns:
Chiarot = 1st, 3rd
Lehkonen = 1st, B prospect
Allen = havent seen a rumour yet. I wouldnt trade him for any less than a 2nd + B Prospect

Kravtsov and Lundqvist are 1st round picks, from 4 drafts ago. Lundqvist value is same or maybe slightly higher than a late first, Kravstov's value is lower + Russia situation right now.
Nemeth adds no value to Montreal

So arguably, the deal is missing value equivalent to 3rd, 2 B prospects


i'm glad you said arguably because your above assessment is BEST case scenario.
3rd line wingers don't pull 1st round picks.
let's see how this one ages.
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10 mars 2022 à 12 h 59
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
i'm glad you said arguably because your above assessment is BEST case scenario.
3rd line wingers don't pull 1st round picks.
let's see how this one ages.


Coleman and Goodrow both brought in 1st round picks.

But yeah, we'll see. I think as a package, we get less than selling them separately.
10 mars 2022 à 14 h 5
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
i'm glad you said arguably because your above assessment is BEST case scenario.
3rd line wingers don't pull 1st round picks.
let's see how this one ages.


I don't disagree with you at all, Lehkonen is a third line winger - a good one, but a third liner nonetheless.

He doesn't have the size of Goodrow or the tenacity (he's tenacious but a different kind of tenacious) of Coleman - similar to Janmark. They all got good returns, so we will have to see.

I agree with you, we'll have to see how this one ages.
10 mars 2022 à 15 h 17
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Coleman and Goodrow both brought in 1st round picks.

But yeah, we'll see. I think as a package, we get less than selling them separately.


Coleman and Goodrow both had an extra year and that AAV was a 3x underpay which made them more valuable. At the very least, Lehkonen is RFA but a 1st is too much. It was also a late first.
11 mars 2022 à 14 h 23
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Coleman and Goodrow both had an extra year and that AAV was a 3x underpay which made them more valuable. At the very least, Lehkonen is RFA but a 1st is too much. It was also a late first.


any first for Lehkonen would also be a late first. Lehkonen is RFA so they get his rights. He is arguably better than Coleman, definitely better than Goodrow, especially at that age.
11 mars 2022 à 14 h 28
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any first for Lehkonen would also be a late first. Lehkonen is RFA so they get his rights. He is arguably better than Coleman, definitely better than Goodrow, especially at that age.


Still, a 1x$1.8M deal over RFA rights is worth more since Lehkonen wil likely sign for $3M+.
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