SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Even better

Créé par: pensfan21
Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 7 mars 2022
Publié: 7 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
57 000 000 $
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
78 500 000 $
36 000 000 $
21 750 000 $
21 000 000 $
32 000 000 $
43 250 000 $
32 750 000 $
41 250 000 $
1750 000 $
1900 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Boeser, Brock [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Anything else need to be added?
VAN
  1. Hållander, Filip
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi [Droits de RFA]
  3. Légaré, Nathan
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
2.
3.
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
2023
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de TOR
2024
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2082 500 000 $79 566 667 $0 $0 $2 933 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 8
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, C
UFA
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
900 000 $900 000 $
DG
UFA
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
7 mars 2022 à 15 h 17
#1
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2020
Messages: 9,664
Mentions "j'aime": 9,034
Canucks decline. Need to give up Marino if you want Boeser
canucks_Fan_53 a aimé ceci.
7 mars 2022 à 15 h 18
#2
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 3,632
Mentions "j'aime": 1,271
Quoting: mv21227
Canucks decline. Need to give up Marino if you want Boeser


I don't think so. Miller would require Mario but I could see Boeser being traded without him.
7 mars 2022 à 15 h 23
#3
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2021
Messages: 2,391
Mentions "j'aime": 554
Boeser can’t make only 7M next season. His QO is 7.5M. Has to make 7.5M. Can negotiate more not less than.
7 mars 2022 à 15 h 28
#4
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2019
Messages: 966
Mentions "j'aime": 335
Quoting: pensfan21
I don't think so. Miller would require Mario but I could see Boeser being traded without him.


any VAN trade with PIT would require Marino
If VAN moves a top 6 fwd piece be it Garland, Boeser or Miller, they will need a top 4 D (preferably RHD) coming back. in this case it would have to be Marino.
if the value is off then there's a conversation to be had about adding assets, but VAN is not trading 1 fwd out of a log jam for 3 fwds more to come back... that makes no sense.
7 mars 2022 à 15 h 28
#5
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 3,632
Mentions "j'aime": 1,271
Quoting: LetsGoPens69
Boeser can’t make only 7M next season. His QO is 7.5M. Has to make 7.5M. Can negotiate more not less than.


Ok then give him 7.5 and slate Boyle or someone else in instead of Cousins.
7 mars 2022 à 15 h 32
#6
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 3,632
Mentions "j'aime": 1,271
Quoting: canucks_Fan_53
any VAN trade with PIT would require Marino
If VAN moves a top 6 fwd piece be it Garland, Boeser or Miller, they will need a top 4 D (preferably RHD) coming back. in this case it would have to be Marino.
if the value is off then there's a conversation to be had about adding assets, but VAN is not trading 1 fwd out of a log jam for 3 fwds more to come back... that makes no sense.


Ok then throw in Mario that would take away Manson, Marino (7.5 mil) and possibly allow us to re-sign Letang if we can get 500k more. I want to re-sign him, but I think he will go to Montreal.
7 mars 2022 à 15 h 33
#7
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2021
Messages: 2,391
Mentions "j'aime": 554
Quoting: pensfan21
Ok then give him 7.5 and slate Boyle or someone else in instead of Cousins.


I would personally rather resign Rust for 6M-7M and not have to give up those assets to attain Boeser. Rust has definitely outperform him the last 3 seasons.

But I don’t hate getting Boeser. Like him better with Geno and Rust with Sid still.
7 mars 2022 à 15 h 38
#8
Ex Nucks fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 17,615
Mentions "j'aime": 17,624
Quoting: LetsGoPens69
Boeser can’t make only 7M next season. His QO is 7.5M. Has to make 7.5M. Can negotiate more not less than.


You clearly don’t know how a QO works. He could potentially sign for less than his QO. His QO is just the price if they can’t negotiate a deal.
DDUB a aimé ceci.
7 mars 2022 à 15 h 45
#9
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2021
Messages: 2,391
Mentions "j'aime": 554
Modifié 7 mars 2022 à 15 h 50
Quoting: Juiceman
You clearly don’t know how a QO works. He could potentially sign for less than his QO. His QO is just the price if they can’t negotiate a deal.


You might want to Google that.

And Nope. Have to offer atleast the QO. Can’t offer less. Can negotiate for more, not less. If a player doenst have arbitration he has to take the QO. If he does he can go to an arbitration hearing and can fight for more.

Read any article pertaining to a Boeser trade even. They say it in all of them. That his QO is 7.5M next seasons. Meaning he makes a minimum of that.

If a team doesn’t offer him that. He becomes a UFA. You might want to Google that.

Go to capfriendly menu, calculators, then to qualifying offer calculators. Boeser QO is 7.5M.

Copy and paste

“a team does not value the player enough they do not have to send them the qualifying offer. However, if a player does not receive the qualifying offer they will become a UFA with the ability to sign with any team of their choice”.
7 mars 2022 à 15 h 50
#10
DDUB
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2016
Messages: 141
Mentions "j'aime": 36
Quoting: LetsGoPens69
You might want to Google that.

And Nope. Have to offer atleast the QO. Can’t offer less. Can negotiate for more, not less. If a player doenst have arbitration he has to take the QO. If he does he can go to an arbitration hearing and can fight for more.

Read any article pertaining to a Boeser trade even. They say it in all of them. That his QO is 7.5M next seasons. Meaning he makes a minimum of that.

If a team doesn’t offer him that. He becomes a UFA. You might want to Google that.

Go to capfriendly menu, calculators, then to qualifying offer calculators. Boeser QO is 7.5M.


Yes the QO is 7.5M

However, he can 110% sign a long term deal for less than that.

Sorry but you are just wrong.
Juiceman a aimé ceci.
7 mars 2022 à 15 h 59
#11
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2021
Messages: 2,391
Mentions "j'aime": 554
Quoting: DDUB
Yes the QO is 7.5M

However, he can 110% sign a long term deal for less than that.

Sorry but you are just wrong.


He has to sign a 1 year deal of 7.5M or more.

“He is a pending restricted free agent and is due for a massive qualifying offer of over $7 million for 2022-23”.

https://thehockeywriters.com/penguins-canucks-trade-proposal-2022-deadline-blockbuster/

“ The right winger, who just turned 25 last week, is a pending RFA with a $7.5 million qualifying offer”

https://canucksarmy.com/2022/03/04/what-brock-boeser-worth-trade-willing-pay/

Has to have a QO of 7.5M or more for one season. Not less.
7 mars 2022 à 16 h 1
#12
Ex Nucks fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 17,615
Mentions "j'aime": 17,624
Quoting: LetsGoPens69
He has to sign a 1 year deal of 7.5M or more.

“He is a pending restricted free agent and is due for a massive qualifying offer of over $7 million for 2022-23”.

https://thehockeywriters.com/penguins-canucks-trade-proposal-2022-deadline-blockbuster/

“ The right winger, who just turned 25 last week, is a pending RFA with a $7.5 million qualifying offer”

https://canucksarmy.com/2022/03/04/what-brock-boeser-worth-trade-willing-pay/


You still don’t understand how this whole thing works. He only gets his QO if he can’t come to a deal with Vancouver. He can sign for whatever he wants. He could potentially sign for less money with longer term. Before you try to argue something, at least make sure your right
DDUB et remowilliams a aimé ceci.
7 mars 2022 à 16 h 2
#13
DDUB
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2016
Messages: 141
Mentions "j'aime": 36
Quoting: LetsGoPens69
He has to sign a 1 year deal of 7.5M or more.

“He is a pending restricted free agent and is due for a massive qualifying offer of over $7 million for 2022-23”.

https://thehockeywriters.com/penguins-canucks-trade-proposal-2022-deadline-blockbuster/

“ The right winger, who just turned 25 last week, is a pending RFA with a $7.5 million qualifying offer”

https://canucksarmy.com/2022/03/04/what-brock-boeser-worth-trade-willing-pay/

Has to have a QO of 7.5M or more for one season. Not less.




Oh my god dude!

YES, the qualifying offer must be a 1 yr, 100% salary for his pay bracket it’s a 1 year 7.5M offer.

The player can than reject that offer and work out a long term deal. OF ANY PRICE. If they can’t decide on a price it goes to an arbitrator.

You keep acting like we are don’t know his QO is a 1yr 7.5M when we do. What we are saying is a player can decide to not take that 1 year deal and take a long term deal at a different price. Lower or higher.
7 mars 2022 à 16 h 17
#14
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2016
Messages: 1,620
Mentions "j'aime": 1,228
Modifié 7 mars 2022 à 16 h 24
Quoting: LetsGoPens69
Boeser can’t make only 7M next season. His QO is 7.5M. Has to make 7.5M. Can negotiate more not less than.


Boeser qualifying offer is $7.5M, but he can sign a contract for any amount he wants. As for what needs to be added, I think the Canucks would want quality over quantity. I think that starts with a 1st and a good prospect or maybe Kapanen.
7 mars 2022 à 16 h 28
#15
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2021
Messages: 2,391
Mentions "j'aime": 554
Quoting: audiodave
Boeser qualifying offer is $7.5M, but he can sign a contract for any amount he wants. As for what needs to be added, I think the Canucks would want quality over quantity. I think that starts with a 1st and a good prospect or maybe Kapanen.


No he can’t. Not a one year deal. 7.5M Is the min

Google it. What do u think a QO is..?? The min. a team can offer the player.
7 mars 2022 à 16 h 30
#16
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2021
Messages: 3,623
Mentions "j'aime": 2,253
Quoting: LetsGoPens69
No he can’t. Not a one year deal. 7.5M Is the min


it's not the min if he agrees to take less. 7.5mil is the floor for arbitration and it's on the table and he can take it at any time, but you're allowed to accept a contract with an AAV below your QO. most players don't, but it's certainly possible.
Juiceman a aimé ceci.
7 mars 2022 à 16 h 32
#17
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2021
Messages: 2,391
Mentions "j'aime": 554
Quoting: DDUB
Oh my god dude!

YES, the qualifying offer must be a 1 yr, 100% salary for his pay bracket it’s a 1 year 7.5M offer. There is a player Union he can sign a one year deal or anything he wants. One year deal, 7.5M or more.

The player can than reject that offer and work out a long term deal. OF ANY PRICE. If they can’t decide on a price it goes to an arbitrator.

You keep acting like we are don’t know his QO is a 1yr 7.5M when we do. What we are saying is a player can decide to not take that 1 year deal and take a long term deal at a different price. Lower or higher.


Quoting: audiodave
Boeser qualifying offer is $7.5M, but he can sign a contract for any amount he wants. As for what needs to be added, I think the Canucks would want quality over quantity. I think that starts with a 1st and a good prospect or maybe Kapanen.


Ya, ok, one year 7.5M min. He can negotiate more not less on a one year deal.

Yes, On a long term deal they can negotiate whatever.

But he needs to get a QO of atleast 7.5M for one year. That’s what I said.
7 mars 2022 à 16 h 34
#18
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2016
Messages: 1,620
Mentions "j'aime": 1,228
Quoting: LetsGoPens69
No he can’t. Not a one year deal. 7.5M Is the min

Google it. What do u think a QO is..?? The min. a team can offer the player.


A qualifying offer is only required to keep a players RFA rights. Boeser can agree to less money if he wants. You appear to be the only one who doesn't understand this.
7 mars 2022 à 16 h 36
#19
matt
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: sept. 2020
Messages: 602
Mentions "j'aime": 220
Quoting: LetsGoPens69
No he can’t. Not a one year deal. 7.5M Is the min

Google it. What do u think a QO is..?? The min. a team can offer the player.


umm yes a one year deal would be 7.5 but his AVV doesnt have to be 7.5 on a long term deal.
LetsGoPens69 a aimé ceci.
7 mars 2022 à 16 h 37
#20
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2021
Messages: 2,391
Mentions "j'aime": 554
Modifié 7 mars 2022 à 16 h 49
Quoting: audiodave
A qualifying offer is only required to keep a players RFA rights. Boeser can agree to less money if he wants. You appear to be the only one who doesn't understand this.


Quoting: DDUB
Oh my god dude!

YES, the qualifying offer must be a 1 yr, 100% salary for his pay bracket it’s a 1 year 7.5M offer.

The player can than reject that offer and work out a long term deal. OF ANY PRICE. If they can’t decide on a price it goes to an arbitrator.

You keep acting like we are don’t know his QO is a 1yr 7.5M when we do. What we are saying is a player can decide to not take that 1 year deal and take a long term deal at a different price. Lower or higher.


Read the other dudes comments. He’s right too. One year deal has to be 7.5M or more. He can not sign a one year deal for whatever he wants. There is a players Union.

One year deal he cannot negotiate what he wants. A one year deal has to be 7.5M or more. Not less. A long term deal, they can negotiate for whatever they want.
7 mars 2022 à 18 h 29
#21
Ex Nucks fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 17,615
Mentions "j'aime": 17,624
Quoting: LetsGoPens69
Read the other dudes comments. He’s right too. One year deal has to be 7.5M or more. He can not sign a one year deal for whatever he wants. There is a players Union.

One year deal he cannot negotiate what he wants. A one year deal has to be 7.5M or more. Not less. A long term deal, they can negotiate for whatever they want.


That not the point dude. If he decides to sign for a longer deal for less than his QO, then his QO is irrelevant. You’re acting like signing a QO is Boeser’s only option. Read the room, you kissed the argument
7 mars 2022 à 18 h 39
#22
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2021
Messages: 2,391
Mentions "j'aime": 554
Modifié 7 mars 2022 à 18 h 57
Quoting: Juiceman
That not the point dude. If he decides to sign for a longer deal for less than his QO, then his QO is irrelevant. You’re acting like signing a QO is Boeser’s only option. Read the room, you kissed the argument


Quoting: mbaer84
umm yes a one year deal would be 7.5 but his AVV doesnt have to be 7.5 on a long term deal.



I understand the point. I never said anything about a long-term deal. I agree, if he signs long term deal they can negotiate something lower than 7.5M per.

But if they offer him the 7.5M QO for one year. He can only negotiate for more. Not less. For one year.

And I’d rather resign Rust to 6M-7M long term deal. He’s outperformed Boeser the last 3 years. Plus adding assets to acquire him.
7 mars 2022 à 21 h 15
#23
DDUB
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2016
Messages: 141
Mentions "j'aime": 36
Quoting: Juiceman
That not the point dude. If he decides to sign for a longer deal for less than his QO, then his QO is irrelevant. You’re acting like signing a QO is Boeser’s only option. Read the room, you kissed the argument


I apologise on behalf of Pens fans for this dude. He clearly is running it back now that numerous people are telling him he is wrong. I have no idea why people can’t just own up to something when they are wrong.
Juiceman a aimé ceci.
7 mars 2022 à 21 h 36
#24
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2021
Messages: 2,391
Mentions "j'aime": 554
Quoting: canucks_Fan_53
any VAN trade with PIT would require Marino
If VAN moves a top 6 fwd piece be it Garland, Boeser or Miller, they will need a top 4 D (preferably RHD) coming back. in this case it would have to be Marino.
if the value is off then there's a conversation to be had about adding assets, but VAN is not trading 1 fwd out of a log jam for 3 fwds more to come back... that makes no sense.



Lol.. you mean “in your opinion”

In my opinion(and most every other articles, beat writers, internet website) says GM JR is a huge Kappy fan. Pens don’t trade Marino. They just signed him long-term this offseason.
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage