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Créé par: SimonSelaars3

Équipe: 2022-23 Wild du Minnesota

Date de création initiale: 7 mars 2022

Publié: 7 mars 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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So the Weber thing took me forever to grasp, from what I understand, Weber likely won’t retire considering he would still get paid on LTIR but the NHL can recognize that he will never be able to play again and therefor the Wild would be able to spend as far past the cap as Webers annual cap hit which is 7,857,143.

So…

7,857,143 + 81,500,000 = 89,357,143 (amount of cap space we would have)

Bettman has also said the cap will be going up $1,000,000 in the 2022-2023 season, so we would actually have $90,357,143.

The whole situation is weird but from what I read, that is what would happen. A similar situation happened with Chris Pronger I’m pretty sure.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Dewar, Connor	3	900 000 $
Fiala, Kevin	7	7 000 000 $
Kähkönen, Kaapo	3	2 000 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Lindholm, Hampus	5	6 750 000 $
Lankinen, Kevin	3	1 300 000 $
Hertl, Tomas	6	8 750 000 $

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Weber, Shea

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For some reason acquiring Webers contract would actually give us cap relief over the next 4 years, I think everyone is assuming he will probably never play again.

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Khovanov, Alexander
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Pinto, Shane
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)

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Fiala, Kevin

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Lavoie, Raphael
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)

EDM

Rachats de contrats

Zach Parise: 6 371 794 $
Ryan Suter: 6 371 794 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	90 357 143 $	86 307 754 $	0 $	2 132 500 $	4 049 389 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kaprizov, Kirill 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ AG UFA - 4	Rossi, Marco 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) C RFA - 3	Zuccarello, Mats 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Boldy, Matthew 880 833 $880 833 $ (600 000 $$600K) AD, AG UFA - 1	Pinto, Shane 925 000 $925 000 $ (600 000 $$600K) C RFA - 1	Hertl, Tomas 8 750 000 $8 750 000 $ C UFA - 8
Foligno, Marcus 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Eriksson Ek, Joel 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C UFA - 7	Hartman, Ryan 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2
Dewar, Connor 900 000 $900 000 $ AG, C RFA - 2	Gaudreau, Frédérick 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Duhaime, Brandon 750 000 $750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Lindholm, Hampus 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ DG UFA - 8	Spurgeon, Jared 7 575 000 $7 575 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 5
Brodin, Jonas 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 6	Dumba, Matt 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Kähkönen, Kaapo 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
Merrill, Jon 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Addison, Calen 795 000 $795 000 $ (82 500 $$82K) DD RFA - 1	Lankinen, Kevin 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ G UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Shaw, Mason 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, C RFA - 1		Weber, Shea 7 857 143 $7 857 143 $ DD UFA - 4
Kulikov, Dmitry 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1
Mermis, Dakota 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

7 mars 2022 à 1 h 44

Wildnochance

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Minnesota shouldn't take the risk that NHL will approve anything helping Minnesota. Greenway can't be traded. A contract extension doesn't begin until the next season begins. There's a million reasons why teams don't do this

7 mars 2022 à 1 h 48

Mediumyeet

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This isn't how it works unfortunately. The LTIR benefit (additional cap room) is already accounted for when you put them on LTIR on this website.

The way you have it is double counting the cap relief.

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7 mars 2022 à 1 h 48

TampaBayLightning22

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There's already talk that Minnesota will probably have to move Fiala due to their upcoming cap crunch. And you honestly think they can afford both Hertl and Lindholm? And Lindholm will get more then what you're offering. Hertl probably in the $8,000,000 on a 7 yr deal and Lindholm probably 7 x $7,500,000 good luck with that.

7 mars 2022 à 1 h 52

TampaBayLightning22

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And where are you coming up with Minnesota and $90,000,000 in salary cap? They basically have less then $10,000,000 in cap to sign like 7 players.. These next 3 years are serious cap crunch with the buyouts of Parise and Suter. Sorry dude but Shea Weber on LTIR doesn't give you extra in salary cap that's not how it works. You're still screwed here big time cap wise for the next 3 years or so.

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7 mars 2022 à 1 h 56

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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22

Yes I do sir

7 mars 2022 à 1 h 57

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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22

Cap maneuver with Webers contract

7 mars 2022 à 1 h 59

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Quoting: Mediumyeet

It doesn’t account for it I’ve looked it up like 10 times

7 mars 2022 à 2 h 0

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Quoting: Wildnochance

Okay?

7 mars 2022 à 2 h 1

TampaBayLightning22

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Quoting: Hockeyman1208

Cap maneuver with Webers contract

You can't add Webers LTIR to your salary cap that's not how it works, And you only get benefits if you spend right up to the cap or go over slightly.

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7 mars 2022 à 2 h 13

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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22

You can't add Webers LTIR to your salary cap that's not how it works, And you only get benefits if you spend right up to the cap or go over slightly.

Okay TampaBayLightning22

7 mars 2022 à 2 h 17

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Doubt we see Edmonton revisit Talbot. Apparently Oilers fans harasses his wife or something.

7 mars 2022 à 2 h 19

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Quoting: SmokeAndBeer

Doubt we see Edmonton revisit Talbot. Apparently Oilers fans harasses his wife or something.

Thats F’d up

7 mars 2022 à 5 h 44

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Quoting: Mediumyeet

Quoting: Hockeyman1208

It doesn’t account for it I’ve looked it up like 10 times

Put Weber into the scratch column and you’ll see the team cap amount go up. His cap hit automatically comes out when you put him in LTIR, so you still need to stay under your projected $82,5MM cap

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7 mars 2022 à 9 h 8

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Here's my thought on Weber. Folks are assuming he is gonna on LTIR for four full more seasons. Maybe he does a "Louango" Lou retired. He didn't think it was worth all the effort to do the severe rehab to get stay on LTIR. So he retired instead and his front loaded contract invoked the recapture penalties. Weber is owed "just" 6m on his remaining four years. Maybe he thinks it's just better to retire and rehab and rest on his own schedule.

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7 mars 2022 à 9 h 19

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If you consider what Dmen have been signing for the last couple years (Nurse, Hamilton, Jones etc.) Lindholm will get 8M + on his next contract

7 mars 2022 à 10 h 39

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Pretty sure this cap maneuver idea has been debunked.

No, simply acquiring players that are already on LTI (e.g. Andrew Shaw) would not work. The reason being is that they need to first fit that player under the cap by using the existing money that they have, and then place him on LTI. The result would be $0 in cap space gained. https://t.co/FkHnv5dTAo
— CapFriendly (@CapFriendly) February 7, 2022

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