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Offseason Blockbuster Idea

Créé par: EEEEE15
Date de création initiale: 5 mars 2022
Publié: 6 mars 2022
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
LA fans let me know what you think about the value and if you'd consider this in the offseason.
Transactions
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TOR
  1. Turcotte, Alex
  2. Roy, Matt
  3. 2022 2e round pick (LAK)
  4. 2023 3e round pick (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
Please don't flame me in the comments I don't know too much about the value here which is I want the opinion of both fanbases. Is this too much, little or fair value?
LAK
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Holl, Justin
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $73 186 350 $0 $1 950 000 $8 313 650 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Bunting, Michael
950 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 3
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Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
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Robertson, Nicholas
796 667 $
AG
RFA - 3
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Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Kase, Ondrej
1 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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Mikheyev, Ilya
1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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Simmonds, Wayne
900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
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Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
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Spezza, Jason
750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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Turcotte, Alex
894 167 $
C
RFA - 3
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Clifford, Kyle
1 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
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Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Mrázek, Petr
3 800 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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Dermott, Travis
1 500 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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Lyubushkin, Ilya
1 350 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 1
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Liljegren, Timothy
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 1
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Roy, Matt
3 150 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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Hollowell, Mac
799 766 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3

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6 mars à 0 h 45
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i dont see the value being too far off but i also dont see any reason the leafs do this... if they even consider trading nylander theyre getting a decent 2nd liner & a top 4 dman in return, not a prospect
6 mars à 0 h 48
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Quoting: leafs_and_devils
i dont see the value being too far off but i also dont see any reason the leafs do this... if they even consider trading nylander theyre getting a decent 2nd liner & a top 4 dman in return, not a prospect


Would Kempe/Arvidson & Roy for Willy & Holl be a better idea with fair value?
6 mars à 0 h 57
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Would Kempe/Arvidson & Roy for Willy & Holl be a better idea with fair value?


iafallo and yeah maybe... still doubt the leafs trade nylander but thats certainly good value
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I don’t think Kings add a high 2nd and a high 3rd round pick. Although they might make the play-offs this season and those picks be mid round.

I would think Turcotte, Roy and a 2nd for Nylander and Holl.

I don’t see Holl having much value right now. And won’t in the offseason either. Holl is a 3rd pairing RHD on a contender.

I don’t see the Kings doing Kempe and Roy for Nylander and Holl.

Maybe Lafallo, Roy and a 3rd for Nylander and Holl. And with the Kings playing well this season why would they make a big move like that anyways?? To help the leafs???

Remember when there was a Weegar for Dermott offer and Leafs refused it..lol. That was a huge mis-step there.

And they should’ve protected 7 forwards and 3 D-man in the expansion draft. Protected McCann and Kerfoot and exposed Holl and Dermott. That was also a big mistake.

For Leafs fans always bragging about Dubas’s trades he sure does make a lot of mistakes too.

In all seriousness though it sucks Amirov got sick. Brain tumor?? That really sucks. I wish him the best. Hope he is alright. Hope he recovers and see him in a Leafs jersey in the future.
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Kings need a LD not a RD. Keep Holl and Roy off the trade (swap in Walker) and it's a deal
edit: swap in Walker for Roy, a LD for Holl
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Nylander = Iafallo, Turcotte or Vilardi, Walker or Spence or Grans, and our 2022 first.
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I don’t think Kings add a high 2nd and a high 3rd round pick. Although they might make the play-offs this season and those picks be mid round.

I would think Turcotte, Roy and a 2nd for Nylander and Holl.

I don’t see Holl having much value right now. And won’t in the offseason either. Holl is a 3rd pairing RHD on a contender.

I don’t see the Kings doing Kempe and Roy for Nylander and Holl.

Maybe Lafallo, Roy and a 3rd for Nylander and Holl. And with the Kings playing well this season why would they make a big move like that anyways?? To help the leafs???

Remember when there was a Weegar for Dermott offer and Leafs refused it..lol. That was a huge mis-step there.

And they should’ve protected 7 forwards and 3 D-man in the expansion draft. Protected McCann and Kerfoot and exposed Holl and Dermott. That was also a big mistake.

For Leafs fans always bragging about Dubas’s trades he sure does make a lot of mistakes too.

In all seriousness though it sucks Amirov got sick. Brain tumor?? That really sucks. I wish him the best. Hope he is alright. Hope he recovers and see him in a Leafs jersey in the future.


Firstly, this would be a move i can see happen im the offseason if the kings go on somewhat of a playoff run seeing that they can start contending and leafs fail 1at round again. As for the weegar for dermott trade, I'm geniunly sure that dubas offered that trade but it was never accepted. The expansion draft mistake i agree was not a good one but at the time the way holl was playing,, it looked like he completed our top 4 perfectly while McCann would be an addition to an already deadly offence. Im not saying dubas is the best gm ever, but i do trust that he's going to get the right value if he trades one of his stars.
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Firstly, this would be a move i can see happen im the offseason if the kings go on somewhat of a playoff run seeing that they can start contending and leafs fail 1at round again. As for the weegar for dermott trade, I'm geniunly sure that dubas offered that trade but it was never accepted. The expansion draft mistake i agree was not a good one but at the time the way holl was playing,, it looked like he completed our top 4 perfectly while McCann would be an addition to an already deadly offence. Im not saying dubas is the best gm ever, but i do trust that he's going to get the right value if he trades one of his stars.



Nope, Leaf’s rejected that offer. You miss-arranged your words in that sentence. I think you meant; You are surly, genuinely, wrong.

https://youtu.be/1qRDPQxD6v8

Copy and paste from NHL watcher twitter account:

“Friedman & Marek talking about how well MacKenzie Weegar is playing for Florida. Marek brings up how Dubas was interested in him in the offseason, Friedman said they wanted Dermott and Johnsson in a deal, Toronto said no”

Or watch the YouTube video I linked. Dubas definitely rejected it. Not Florida.

Seeing what Kappy brought back, Dubas thought he’d get better for AndreasJohnsson than he did. And thought Dermott would develop into a similar D-man as Weegar. He miss calculated big time.
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