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Desert Cat

Créé par: DarthKane
Équipe: 2021-22 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 5 mars 2022
Publié: 5 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
DeBrincat has developed some chemistry with Kane, its time to trade the Cat.
Transactions
CHI
  1. Fedotov, Ilya [Liste de réserve]
  2. Keller, Clayton
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (COL)
ARI
  1. DeBrincat, Alex
  2. Kubalik, Dominik
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
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5 mars 2022 à 19 h 3
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Az declines Keller > Cat easily
So why would they give up the first
5 mars 2022 à 19 h 5
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Coyotes not trading 1sts for any reason, not exactly sure if they try to build a nucleus with guys they don’t know either
5 mars 2022 à 19 h 11
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Quoting: xercuses
Az declines Keller > Cat easily
So why would they give up the first


I’m an Arizona fan and Keller is not better than cat
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5 mars 2022 à 19 h 13
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Quoting: xercuses
Az declines Keller > Cat easily
So why would they give up the first


Keller isn't better than DeBrincat. That said, I'd still say Arizona declines. Doesn't make sense for them to trade a 1st and Keller still has a lot of term, which is an asset for Arizona.
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5 mars 2022 à 19 h 14
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Quoting: xercuses
Az declines Keller > Cat easily
So why would they give up the first


Kat > Debrincat it’s not close.

But if they were trading Keller, it would start with Dach
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5 mars 2022 à 19 h 14
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Quoting: jet11567
I’m an Arizona fan and Keller is not better than cat


That doesn't make you an expert. Keller is better.
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5 mars 2022 à 19 h 15
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This trade doesn't make sense for AZ. It only makes sense for CHI.

AZ is rebuilding and has a glut of 1sts. Their goal is to load their prospect pool.
5 mars 2022 à 19 h 16
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Quoting: Caerii
Keller isn't better than DeBrincat. That said, I'd still say Arizona declines. Doesn't make sense for them to trade a 1st and Keller still has a lot of term, which is an asset for Arizona.


Of course trading the first would not be the WRIGHT thing to do smile
5 mars 2022 à 19 h 19
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
That doesn't make you an expert. Keller is better.


He’s not. Debrincat is one of the best wingers in hockey. Keller is not
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5 mars 2022 à 19 h 19
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Quoting: jet11567
Of course trading the first would not be the WRIGHT thing to do smile


Well it IS Colorado's 1st, so at least there's that
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5 mars 2022 à 20 h 14
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Quoting: csick
He’s not. Debrincat is one of the best wingers in hockey. Keller is not


keller is
people never take into account hes not played with one superstar in his entire career yet Cat on the other hand
5 mars 2022 à 20 h 23
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Quoting: csick
He’s not. Debrincat is one of the best wingers in hockey. Keller is not


It’s closer than people realize, but also I wouldn’t compare the two anyways. Keller is much more of a marner like player than the sniper debrincat is
5 mars 2022 à 20 h 24
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Quoting: Caerii
Keller isn't better than DeBrincat. That said, I'd still say Arizona declines. Doesn't make sense for them to trade a 1st and Keller still has a lot of term, which is an asset for Arizona.


keller is actually better then cat and its not close
5 mars 2022 à 20 h 25
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Quoting: xercuses
keller is
people never take into account hes not played with one superstar in his entire career yet Cat on the other hand


This argument is old. How many times was this said about Draisaitl. Cat has more than proven himself by now.

I'm going to edit this. Debrincat had THREE points where Kane assisted or scored on that point, out of his 52 points his rookie year in 17-18. The following year 27 of his 76 points Kane contributed. He has not played with a superstar his entire career and has proven he can succeed at a high level without Kane.
5 mars 2022 à 21 h 8
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This argument is old. How many times was this said about Draisaitl. Cat has more than proven himself by now.

I'm going to edit this. Debrincat had THREE points where Kane assisted or scored on that point, out of his 52 points his rookie year in 17-18. The following year 27 of his 76 points Kane contributed. He has not played with a superstar his entire career and has proven he can succeed at a high level without Kane.


so has keller imo even more so idk how much more he has to do to prove it
other than 7 point schmaltz and garland hes played with no top 6 player ever
lets ignore kane then
2017 he had schamltz and toews and saad
2018 saad, schmaltz, toews, strome
2019- 2021 dach strome toews
keller had
kinda stacked so you got me here 2017 Domi, strome, stephan
2018 strome stephan schmaltz
2019 garland schmaltz kessel (injured)Hall Dovrak garland
2020 garland Dvorak schmaltz
2021 schmaltz ladd hayton

Debrincat has 276 points in 342
keller has 244 in 348
imo if keller even had players as good as chi hed blow away cat
Cats awesome just not at kellers level imo and
really only in 2018 did they not have similar point totals which was kellers shopmore slump Cat luckily didnt have one
Its one down year sperating the too thats it and cat did it on much better teams
5 mars 2022 à 22 h 0
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Quoting: xercuses
so has keller imo even more so idk how much more he has to do to prove it
other than 7 point schmaltz and garland hes played with no top 6 player ever
lets ignore kane then
2017 he had schamltz and toews and saad
2018 saad, schmaltz, toews, strome
2019- 2021 dach strome toews
keller had
kinda stacked so you got me here 2017 Domi, strome, stephan
2018 strome stephan schmaltz
2019 garland schmaltz kessel (injured)Hall Dovrak garland
2020 garland Dvorak schmaltz
2021 schmaltz ladd hayton

Debrincat has 276 points in 342
keller has 244 in 348
imo if keller even had players as good as chi hed blow away cat
Cats awesome just not at kellers level imo and
really only in 2018 did they not have similar point totals which was kellers shopmore slump Cat luckily didnt have one
Its one down year sperating the too thats it and cat did it on much better teams



It's not like the Blackhawks have been good during cats time here. Maybe not Arizona bad but they have been bottom of the league almost every year as well. Cat had a down year in 19-20 that was a bigger point difference than Keller's slump year. Debrincat dropped 31 points lower from the year before compared to Kellers 18. So I do not think this "Its one down year sperating the too thats it" holds any weight. If anything that statement should be in favor of debrincat. The players you listed aren't even bad. He has every chance to succeed with those guys listed 2017-2020. Not calling Keller bad. Nobody is. But to each their own because Cat is definitely better than Keller imo. Top ten in scoring 3/5 seasons (including this season as things stand now.) One of the seasons he wasn't top 10 was his rookie year and still put up 28. He is one of the best goal scorers in the NHL.
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5 mars 2022 à 23 h 40
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I haven't seen a ton of Keller, but if we are talking about who is "better", we need to talk about more than just goals.
6 mars 2022 à 8 h 13
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Isn't the real difference between these two players the 7 years $7M contract vs the Cat likely getting $8.5M for two (40) goal seasons.

Besisde CK more the playmaker and Cat the goal scorer
6 mars 2022 à 11 h 37
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Quoting: csick
He’s not. Debrincat is one of the best wingers in hockey. Keller is not


Ohh, compelling argument, but wrong. You can feel free to do a deep dive into their advanced stats to see how wrong you are. Also, consider that Keller is doing what he's doing playing on a team that's the worst team in the league. Keller doesn't have even close to the teammates DeBrincat does.
 
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