Ristolainen for a 1st and a top prospect, what are you smoking?

Rangers could use his physical play for the playoffs and he is a former 8th overall pick. Just happened to be unlucky and play for mediocre teams. In the right system and with good teamates, he has the upside to be a top end defensmen in the league. Rangers are looking to make a push for the playoffs this year and Schneider won't help them with that. Risto will.
By the way, this is the price for Ristolainen and Flyers also paid a 1st round pick to aquire him. He is worth more than you think.

Ivan Provorov+Carter Hart+Colorado's 2023 1st round pick doesn't get you the arguably 2nd best player in the league in Leon Draisaitl. What a joke.

I'd argue that. Covering 2 of the most needed help for the oilers and giving them finally a franchise goalie + a 1st round. Yeah, a goalie is worth more than anything in this league. They wont ever win with Smith and Koskinen. McDavid can carry this offense, they dont need Draisaitl more than a goalie and a defensmen.
So yeah, I'd argue that.

* Add another 1st round pick if it makes you sleep better at night.

Well, sure, that would all be amazing for Philly.

Add the Philly 2022 1st instead of a late Colorado 1st that's still 2 drafts away at the very least geesh.

There, I edited it. I hope it's good enough now. But who knows.

NYR decline, HAHAHAHA WHAT IS THAT TRADE?!?

I think that EDM just keeps Draisaitl, they have no need for that trade, and it would only hurt them... Why would someone swap steak for a hamburger?

So the flyers got ripped off by Buffalo, doesn't mean that his price is auto-set by that horrible trade. I love Risto, but he is not even close to being worth that much...

These are definitely moves.

We already have a defensive strong man, and his name is Trouba.

Schneider is not being moved for a Nemeth Trouba combo. Schneider is a lot better than Risto in his own zone, and the Rangers don't need more grit (Reaves, Goodrow, Trouba, Hunt, Rooney, McKegg, Kreider are all players who can play that gritty hard hitting game and take back punishment...)

Lol. Would rather play Schneider than add Risto

So much hate on a guy who played with mediocre teams all his life. Risto is so under rated only because he never was well surrounded.
Put him in the Rangers on the top pair and he suddenly becomes a Brent Burns in his prime. Y'all might think i'm crazy, but Risto was making 0.5 pts/game in a basement team year after year.
Put him in a team full of talent like the rangers, he will challenge Fox for points and i'm not even kidding. The guy is a stud and Flyers already said his price for him. It aint gonna be cheap.

Add to that, that the rangers will be contenders for a long time so their 1st rounders are not worth as much as if it was a Coyotes or Buffalo 1st. We're talking late 1st round pick and a defensive prospect for a guy who is already established in the NHL and can play at a high level on day 1. Rangers wants to win now, not in 5 years.
+ you get a salary discount on him.

Hate the deal all you want, but if the rangers believed in their chances this year, they would do it.

Rangers are fine at RD, not to mention he's a free agent this summer so to resign Friedman said they were working off a deal starting with a 6. Why would the Rangers give up a first and a prospect for a position that is fine as is and will be cheaper for them in the long run? could use the first on a forward and save money instead of paying a premium for a poor rental? Not arguing with the return if that's what the Flyers hope to receive just pointing out I don't think he fits the Rangers here.

argument could be made schneider > risto already.

Risto said no to 6m/year for 6 years with the flyers because I believe he wants to play with a contender and he is tired to be on a rebuilding team. I don't think the money was the problem, I believe its the team. I'm sure he would play for 4.5m if the rangers or another contender offered him. I think he hates to do a long contract because he knows he could be worth more in a year or 2 with a good team.
Honestly, as a flyers fan, I'm pissed that he wants to leave because he is one of the only good asset we have and can cheer for.
He shows emotions, passion, hits hard, big body, produces numbers when given the opportunity. It's a shame to lose him and any team should be happy to aquire him. He will be a great addition to any contender.

Hey that is great, but NY is NOT the team for him and he is not the player for us

.....and they likely wouldn't have Colorado's first in these circumstances because Joe should walk away if they want Barron.

Easy no for the Avs. Not moving Barron for a rental.

I decline that Draisital trade. We need Hart to stay in Philly and build around him. Flyers haven't had a franchise goalie since Hextall and since we finally get one we trade him? he is an untouchable no matter what.

Avs have already said Barron is expandable considering they have a lot of defensive prospects. I'm pretty sure Barron will be moved if need be to get Giroux.

I agree also but to get Draisaitl, we could maybe mannage around Felix Sandstrom & Ivan Fedotov in the rebuild process.
They are 2 great prospect who could perhaps do the job down the line.

I think Sandstrom becomes nothing more than a backup, I love the guy and have followed him since the royals. Fedotov is still a hugeeee ? on whether he chooses to ever come to the NHL or not so we can't rely on him to do so. Flyers are gonna need draft picks cause our prospect pool isnt that impressive with talent wise and to give up 3 1sts in the 2023 draft which is apparently loaded would prolly be a mistake. That's just my opinion though

I respect your oppinion, I meen this is what the forum is for. It would break my heart to see Hart go as well. I just created some random ideas like that. But in a way, I hope we never trade Hart lol.