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Créé par: TheTypicalLeafsFan
Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 2 mars 2022
Publié: 2 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Lindholm, Hampus (2 600 000 $ retained)
ANA
  1. Jost, Tyson
  2. Kaut, Martin
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (COL)
2.
COL
  1. Giroux, Claude (4 100 350 $ retained)
PHI
  1. Helm, Darren
  2. Ranta, Sampo
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
3.
COL
  1. Dvorak, Christian (2 225 000 $ retained)
  2. Lehkonen, Artturi (1 150 000 $ retained)
4.
COL
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (COL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (COL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Part of the Comper trade
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
2023
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
2024
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $73 514 724 $1 741 463 $850 000 $7 985 276 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
37 150 $37 150 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
908 333 $908 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
725 000 $725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 075 000 $1 075 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
0 $0 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 225 000 $2 225 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
2 778 $2 778 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
875 000 $875 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1

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2 mars 2022 à 2 h 27
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I don't think Anaheim or Philly would accept.
Ranta isn't a good enough prospect to balance out the value
Anaheim would be looking for an A- tier prospect in exchange plus a first or 2 seconds (see Toffoli, Shattenkirk trades for comparison)
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2 mars 2022 à 2 h 33
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Anaheim and Philly aren’t doing that at all, those are both massive steals for Colorado and horrible for the other teams
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2 mars 2022 à 6 h 6
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Helm is a negative in the PHI trade, so whilst the other parts are fine, it wouldn't get it done. Switch Helm for Compher and you're probably at fair value.

Doubtful ANA does that either. Probably not enough value for them.

The MTL trade probably just doesn't give the Habs any pieces they value enough, and the cupboard would be very bare for the Avs in the draft. So both decline.
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2 mars 2022 à 6 h 7
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Philly wants a RD, which makes COL a good trade partner.

A simple and probably accepted offer is one of Compher or Jost (Jost being the more desired player), a 1st rounder in 2023, and then one of Barron or Helleson (Barron being the more desired prospect).

I would expect if Jost is offered, the prospect is Helleson and and if Compher is the player, Barron is the prospect.
2 mars 2022 à 8 h 22
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A late second and two guys destined to be in the bottom 6 doesnt get you Lindholm without retention
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2 mars 2022 à 8 h 25
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Compher does not have enough value to get either player alone, let alone both. Montreal obviously declines
2 mars 2022 à 8 h 42
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Quoting: Campabee
Compher does not have enough value to get either player alone, let alone both. Montreal obviously declines


i added picks?
2 mars 2022 à 8 h 44
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Habs decline easily. This trade is terrible for them. Two of their most valuable trade assets for an overpaid bottom sixer and three low mid round picks doesn’t interest them nor move the needle. Do better
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2 mars 2022 à 9 h 13
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None of those teams accept those, but that team steam rolls people.
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2 mars 2022 à 9 h 31
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Defs a no from the Habs. They're expected to get a first for Lehkonen and they gave up a first for Dvorak so I think they'd rather keep him to be honest.
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2 mars 2022 à 10 h 11
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Quoting: TheTypicalLeafsFan
i added picks?


Prices are 1st + 3rd for Lehkonen, and since the Habs have no reason to move him you would also need a 1st for Dvorak.
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2 mars 2022 à 10 h 16
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Prices are 1st + 3rd for Lehkonen, and since the Habs have no reason to move him you would also need a 1st for Dvorak.


No team is paying that for either
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2 mars 2022 à 10 h 20
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No team is paying that for either


Then we keep them. Everyone keeps forgetting it is teams calling the Habs about these players, not the Habs calling them. The Habs will set the price and either teams pay up or we keep the players since they are both under team control.
2 mars 2022 à 10 h 21
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Then we keep them. Everyone keeps forgetting it is teams calling the Habs about these players, not the Habs calling them. The Habs will set the price and either teams pay up or we keep the players since they are both under team control.


I mean sure but if the habs want to get better then they should get some picks and prospects
2 mars 2022 à 10 h 29
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I mean sure but if the habs want to get better then they should get some picks and prospects


The Habs are good enough to beat the Leafs so...JK. In all seriousness though, Lehkonen and Dvorak are not the weakest links on the team and on a contending team they would both be middle 6 guys (3rd line guys who can step into the 2nd line role when needed) and in the case of Lehky, his play steps up significantly in the playoffs. We need a top 6 C, and top pairing LHD and top 4 RHD those are our biggest holes. Center is likely filled at the draft, LHD could be Guhle, Norlinder or Romanov but Edmundson is a good stop gap until then. Our RHD is really the biggest issue and it's organization wide not just with the Habs themselves.
3 mars 2022 à 10 h 17
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Prices are 1st + 3rd for Lehkonen, and since the Habs have no reason to move him you would also need a 1st for Dvorak.


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3 mars 2022 à 10 h 20
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Philly wants a RD, which makes COL a good trade partner.

A simple and probably accepted offer is one of Compher or Jost (Jost being the more desired player), a 1st rounder in 2023, and then one of Barron or Helleson (Barron being the more desired prospect).

I would expect if Jost is offered, the prospect is Helleson and and if Compher is the player, Barron is the prospect.


It actually makes the Avs a bad trade partner and I'd expect them to reject a proposal involving Barron and sure as hell not offer him. I'd prefer them not to move either of Barron or Helleson. More likely offer imo is Compher, 1st plus Ranta/Kaut/Bowers. Any more than that and I'd walk away from the table if I were Joe. Giroux has almost total control over where he goes and the Avs don't need him, he'd simply be a nice piece to have. Overpaying is not a good idea.
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