Were done with the whole trade Marner phase right

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Créé par: QualityTrades1

Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 26 févr. 2022

Publié: 26 févr. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Based on a previous post (@majormoose007).

Canucks get:
- Young, controllable RD who has looked good with limited ice time
- A couple high picks and a prospect

Leafs get:
- A cheap PPG guy (175 points in his last 173 games) for a playoff run and for next year (super important for cap purposes as many Leaf fans know)

Also, if Muzzin comes back before the playoffs there is enough room to add him to the current roster and if he doesn't, maybe another trade can be made? What should the Leaf's upgrade next if they could add to one more position?

Transactions

TOR

Miller, J.T. (2 625 000 $ retained)
Schenn, Luke

VAN

Abruzzese, Nick [Liste de réserve]
Kerfoot, Alexander
Liljegren, Timothy
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	75 416 450 $	0 $	0 $	6 083 550 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Bunting, Michael 950 000 $950 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 3	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD UFA - 4
Miller, J.T. 2 625 000 $2 625 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 4	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 3
Mikheyev, Ilya 1 645 000 $1 645 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Kämpf, David 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ C UFA - 2	Kase, Ondrej 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Engvall, Pierre 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Spezza, Jason 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Simmonds, Wayne 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG NTC UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 1	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 3	Mrázek, Petr 3 800 000 $3 800 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 3
	Holl, Justin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Campbell, Jack 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ G UFA - 1
Dermott, Travis 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Lyubushkin, Ilya 1 350 000 $1 350 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus 894 167 $894 167 $ DG UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Robertson, Nicholas 796 667 $796 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 3		Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 3
Schenn, Luke 850 000 $850 000 $ DD UFA - 2

26 févr. 2022 à 8 h 28

Jfstompers

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I don't think trading marner was ever a serious consideration. Now if they get swept out again in the first this year then who knows.

26 févr. 2022 à 8 h 36

armer918

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Quoting: Jfstompers

I don't think trading marner was ever a serious consideration. Now if they get swept out again in the first this year then who knows.

If we are out in the first round we will see Willy Styles move as he will be the easiest of the big fout to trade.
He has good contract and the Leafs wouldnt need to take on any bad contracts to accommodate a trade. You can also make a pure hockey trade for a Dman.

26 févr. 2022 à 8 h 36

rgwhite17

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Canucks fan won’t like it but ya I agree that’s a strong offer.
If muzzin is gonna be out, I think getting Gio is the way to go. Maybe dermott and a second? Not that I wanna take Brodie away from Rielly but it would be an easy transition to get him and play him with Brodie. At least some of the time.
Maybe if he likes it in Toronto he would even resign next year for a reasonable price.

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26 févr. 2022 à 8 h 38

rgwhite17

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Quoting: armer918

Ya previously I had always said you gotta trade marner if you’re gonna break it up because he can give you the most cap to spread out the lineup but if chychurn could still be had in the off season and we fail again, they should move nylander either to get him or to get the assets to then flip to Arizona.

26 févr. 2022 à 8 h 39

TheAlien

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nope if you aren't including one of Knies or Niemela they'll just trade him somewhere else. Retention is also gonna increase the already huge price and this offer does nothing to help their cap issues which is one of the reasons they're trading Miller

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26 févr. 2022 à 8 h 45

rgwhite17

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Quoting: TheAlien

I say if anyone is getting miller retained they will have to pay Arizona to do it.

26 févr. 2022 à 9 h 13

TheAlien

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Quoting: rgwhite17

I say if anyone is getting miller retained they will have to pay Arizona to do it.

I think the Canucks would be okay with doing it but they aren't gonna wanna take any other cap back like Kerfoot

26 févr. 2022 à 9 h 19

remowilliams

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So im not trying to be a smart ass but the fact is we hold All the cards in any Miller trade or we just dont trade him, or go in another direction with a better offer.The media has traded Miller several times but word around here is hes NOT getting traded.The same goes for our best players.This is not Jim Benning your dealing with this is JR.We have no interest in Kerfoot we have Hoggy same kind of player but younger, same goes for Abruzzese.Its just not what we need. not a fit with our plans. IMHO

26 févr. 2022 à 9 h 28

Saskleaf

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Pretty solid offer. Only things are

This is tough on Vancouver cap wise.

And according to Friedman they don’t want to trade Abbruzzezze so maybe have a different prospect there.

26 févr. 2022 à 9 h 39

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QualityTrades1

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Quoting: Saskleaf

Pretty solid offer. Only things are

This is tough on Vancouver cap wise.

And according to Friedman they don’t want to trade Abbruzzezze so maybe have a different prospect there.

Quoting: TheAlien

I think the Canucks would be okay with doing it but they aren't gonna wanna take any other cap back like Kerfoot

So if we had a 3rd party retain 2.625M for a 4th or something like Arizona, you guys think Vancouver is good with this? Or do you think that because of Vancouver cap restraints, the third party would also have to take Kerfoot too?

Quoting: rgwhite17

I say if anyone is getting miller retained they will have to pay Arizona to do it.

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26 févr. 2022 à 9 h 43

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littlejerryseinfeld

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Seems reasonable.

26 févr. 2022 à 9 h 46

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Quoting: QualityTrades1

Miller is signed through next year and it's a ton of retention. You're looking at a second at least.

26 févr. 2022 à 10 h 30

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TheAlien

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Quoting: QualityTrades1

nope the way I see it, Miller straight up will cost a 1st, and either Knies and Liljegren or Niemela and Robertson. With 50% retention and Schenn you're looking at adding a 2nd and Villeneuve. The Canucks aren't trading Miller for a lot of lower quality assets.They're gonna want fewer high quality ones.

26 févr. 2022 à 22 h 32

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Saskleaf

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Quoting: QualityTrades1

Ya I think so. Might need to be a 3rd but it would be good from Vancouvers prospective.

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