Forums/Armchair-GM

Goalie options

Créé par: datmonkey91
Date de création initiale: 25 févr. 2022
Publié: 25 févr. 2022
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Varlamov, Semyon
NYI
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
  2. Choix de 2022 ronde en 2e (EDM)
  3. Choix de 2024 ronde en 2e (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Varlamov is probably the best option out of all goalies, he's signed for another year allowing some of the other oiler goaltenders to develop more and he has a solid track record. Not to mention great playoff experience along with decent analytics and numbers.
2.
EDM
  1. Holtby, Braden
Détails additionnels:
This is a good option as well but what worries me is that Holtby regresses again after coming to Edmonton. We've seen him underperform in Washington and Vancouver but this year he's taken a step forward and improved his game. There are some worries around his consistency due to his weak last two seasons but I believe he'll be a decent goalie for a playoff run. Holtby would be my second option out of all the goalies.
DAL
    2024 2nd round pick
    3.
    EDM
    1. Georgiev, Alexandar
    Détails additionnels:
    Georgiev hasn't had the strongest season but has shown flashes of a starter the this year and last year. I'm not too sure how well he'd handle a starting role right away and especially on a team right in the thick of a playoff race. I'm not sold that he'll perform well and am more quite worried that he'd crumble under the pressure and workload. I'd rather stay away from him but still an option nonetheless.
    NYR
      2022 2nd round pick
      2023 3rd round pick
      4.
      EDM
      1. Husso, Ville
      Détails additionnels:
      Probably won't happen considering the Blues are leaning toward Husso to be the starter. But if he ever does become available the oilers should be quick to grab him. Even though goalies have odd seasons, I strongly believe that Husso can keep up solid play (probably not as good as he's doing right now but decent starter numbers). This trade will probably never happen unless Binnington plays better than Husso (doubtful) and as I've seen on my other armchairs, Husso has more value to the Blues than they would get in return for him anyway.
      STL
      1. Lavoie, Raphael
      Détails additionnels:
      2022 2nd round pick
      Rachats de contrats
      • James Neal: 1 916 667 $
      • Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
      • Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (13%)
      ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
      2022
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      2023
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      2024
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      Logo de EDM
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2581 500 000 $86 286 497 $669 339 $1 840 000 $-4 786 497 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Hyman, Zach
      5 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      NMC
      UFA - 7
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      McDavid, Connor
      12 500 000 $
      C
      UFA - 5
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Yamamoto, Kailer
      1 175 000 $
      AD
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
      5 125 000 $
      AG, C
      NMC
      UFA - 8
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Draisaitl, Leon
      8 500 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Sceviour, Colton
      750 000 $
      AD, C
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Foegele, Warren
      2 750 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Ryan, Derek
      1 250 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Perlini, Brendan
      750 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Kane, Evander
      2 108 696 $
      AG, AD
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      McLeod, Ryan
      834 167 $
      C
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Shore, Devin
      850 000 $
      C, AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Benson, Tyler
      750 000 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Nurse, Darnell
      5 600 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Barrie, Tyson
      4 500 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Smith, Mike
      2 200 000 $
      G
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Broberg, Philip
      863 333 $
      DG
      RFA - 3
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Ceci, Cody
      3 250 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Islanders de New York
      Varlamov, Semyon
      5 000 000 $
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Niemeläinen, Markus
      817 500 $
      DG
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Bouchard, Evan
      863 333 $
      DD
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Stars de Dallas
      Holtby, Braden
      2 000 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Lagesson, William
      725 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Rangers de New York
      Georgiev, Alexandar
      2 425 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Blues de St-Louis
      Husso, Ville
      750 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Keith, Duncan
      5 538 462 $
      DG
      NMC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Klefbom, Oscar
      4 167 000 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Turris, Kyle
      1 650 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Kassian, Zack
      3 200 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Russell, Kris
      1 250 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Archibald, Josh
      1 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
      Puljujärvi, Jesse
      1 175 000 $
      AD
      RFA - 1

      Code d'intégration

      • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
      • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

      Texte intégré

      Cliquer pour surligner
      25 févr. 2022 à 0 h 26
      #1
      Banni
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: mai 2018
      Messages: 4,892
      Mentions "j'aime": 3,372
      Blues aren't trading Husso. Binnington stinks right now.
      25 févr. 2022 à 0 h 26
      #2
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: juin 2020
      Messages: 1,431
      Mentions "j'aime": 373
      What metric are you using to gauge grabbing another teams starting goaltender costs a 2nd?
      mokumboi a aimé ceci.
      25 févr. 2022 à 0 h 31
      #3
      Trade Panarin
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: juin 2018
      Messages: 2,675
      Mentions "j'aime": 881
      On the georgiev think him playing a bunch is the only way he is good. If he's not playing enough he is lost
      25 févr. 2022 à 0 h 43
      #4
      Démarrer sujet
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: juill. 2021
      Messages: 304
      Mentions "j'aime": 78
      Quoting: West_Virginia_Take_Me_Home
      What metric are you using to gauge grabbing another teams starting goaltender costs a 2nd?


      If you're talking about the blues trade my description on it shows you my thoughts on the trade
      25 févr. 2022 à 0 h 43
      #5
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: juill. 2021
      Messages: 3,416
      Mentions "j'aime": 2,122
      you could probably get georgiev for pretty cheap this offseason, the rangers pretty much have to get rid of him
      25 févr. 2022 à 2 h 5
      #6
      mokumboi
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: avr. 2019
      Messages: 17,928
      Mentions "j'aime": 7,182
      Even if Binny bounces back, you're not getting Husso before the TDL. Best to just perish the thought.
      25 févr. 2022 à 10 h 38
      #7
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: juin 2020
      Messages: 1,431
      Mentions "j'aime": 373
      Quoting: datmonkey91
      If you're talking about the blues trade my description on it shows you my thoughts on the trade


      No, I mean pretty much all of your trades are a 2nd or a 2nd and something else that doesn't really wow a team. I just don't see how you would plan on going to any team and take their starting goaltender for a second? We traded Allen as the backup and got a second.
      26 févr. 2022 à 5 h 34
      #8
      Démarrer sujet
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: juill. 2021
      Messages: 304
      Mentions "j'aime": 78
      Quoting: West_Virginia_Take_Me_Home
      No, I mean pretty much all of your trades are a 2nd or a 2nd and something else that doesn't really wow a team. I just don't see how you would plan on going to any team and take their starting goaltender for a second? We traded Allen as the backup and got a second.


      Varlamov - only has 2 years left and has a fairly large contract. He might not get a 1st in return as he isn't even the starter on his own team. Plus, the two 2nd's are close to trade value to a 1st (as seen from multiple trades).

      Holtby - pure rental and shouldn't fetch more than a 2nd as he isn't a true number 1 anymore

      Georgiev - pending RFA, rangers won't be able to re-sign him nor will he want to re-sign as a backup there. Similar to the talbot trade when he went from NYR to EDM

      Husso - trade value he has is a huge question mark considering his small sample size and his non exsistent track record as he hasn't played in the league much prior to this year. This is what I deemed to be fair for a pending UFA who is playing amazing but doesn't have proof that he can keep up this play long term. But like I said in my description of the trade, he has more value to the Blues than what they can get back so it's pretty far out there that the trade would happen

      All of these guys are backups besides Husso as well
      27 févr. 2022 à 8 h 27
      #9
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: juin 2020
      Messages: 1,431
      Mentions "j'aime": 373
      Quoting: datmonkey91
      Varlamov - only has 2 years left and has a fairly large contract. He might not get a 1st in return as he isn't even the starter on his own team. Plus, the two 2nd's are close to trade value to a 1st (as seen from multiple trades).

      Holtby - pure rental and shouldn't fetch more than a 2nd as he isn't a true number 1 anymore

      Georgiev - pending RFA, rangers won't be able to re-sign him nor will he want to re-sign as a backup there. Similar to the talbot trade when he went from NYR to EDM

      Husso - trade value he has is a huge question mark considering his small sample size and his non exsistent track record as he hasn't played in the league much prior to this year. This is what I deemed to be fair for a pending UFA who is playing amazing but doesn't have proof that he can keep up this play long term. But like I said in my description of the trade, he has more value to the Blues than what they can get back so it's pretty far out there that the trade would happen

      All of these guys are backups besides Husso as well


      Then your logic still makes no sense. If you are going to say they are all backups, then it does little to improve your goalie situation.
      1.) Holtby isn't a true backup. He's split the starts
      2.) Husso is the starter at this point.
      3.) Georgiev is a backup but the point still stands. He's either playing like a backup and you still don't have a starting goaltender, or he's a starting goaltender and the rangers aren't going to take that for him
      4.) Varlamov is still posting impressive save % and gaa all things considered. But it's going to still cost more than a second.
      27 févr. 2022 à 16 h 12
      #10
      Démarrer sujet
      Avatar de l'utilisateur
      Rejoint: juill. 2021
      Messages: 304
      Mentions "j'aime": 78
      Quoting: West_Virginia_Take_Me_Home
      Then your logic still makes no sense. If you are going to say they are all backups, then it does little to improve your goalie situation.
      1.) Holtby isn't a true backup. He's split the starts
      2.) Husso is the starter at this point.
      3.) Georgiev is a backup but the point still stands. He's either playing like a backup and you still don't have a starting goaltender, or he's a starting goaltender and the rangers aren't going to take that for him
      4.) Varlamov is still posting impressive save % and gaa all things considered. But it's going to still cost more than a second.


      1) Oettinger is the real starter in Dallas, even though he's played only 3 more games his nubmers are significantly better plus Holtby is a pending UFA at the end of the year, there's no way he can fetch more than a 2nd and a small piece
      2) I agreed that Husso was the starter which is why I explained that the trade is very out there to make
      3) Georgiev is a gamble as you don't know how well he'll play in a starter role as he's under the shadow of Igor. Again, he IS NOT the starter whatsoever in New York and this is the type of return they'll get for a pending RFA and a guy that might not want to be a backup for the rest of his career considering Igor's age.
      4) Varlomov is the team's backup, and yes his save% is great but that's a huge team factor, if you look at his analytics, his GSAx is average amongst all goalies. And again, I didn't trade just a second, I traded two 2nd round picks which is near the value of a 1st as we've seen from multiple trades in the past.
       
      Répondre
      To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
      Question:
      Options:
      Ajouter une option
      Soumettre le sondage