I did a roster on here a while back with Johnston included because Stauffer talked about how he should be a target for the Oilers. Alot of Isles fans seemed thrilled to see him go lol.

Isles do not want Barrie, no deal.

They need offense badly, Barrie brings that. There's a fit.

i get the logic but i just can’t imagine a world in which barry trotz can make barrie useful. that said if the oilers added another pick (a second or a third or something) i’d do it

Barrie would be benched by Trotz. He is not a fit for the team, isles would rather keep Mayfield as the 3RD.

It's already an overpay, Edmonton doesn't need to add.

- Koskinen + 1st for is more than enough for Varlamov
- Barrie has more value than Mayfield
- Johnston has zero value

mayfield’s got more value than barrie, he’s making significantly less and has all the physical traits GMs love and overpay for at the deadline. barrie’s making way more for way longer not to mention the islanders don’t really need have much need for him unless he can play on the left. johnston i don’t care about at all. i’d rather just move varlamov if this is the deal and move mayfield elsewhere. barrie for mayfield one for one makes no sense for the islanders. they need a puckmover for the left more than they need an expensive third pairing RD

Oooh. Uhh. Hmm. Not so sure about that one. Especially to the Isles.

Barrie is having a down season this year and still outperforming Klingberg. How is it that Klingberg is a coveted potential deadline acquisition who will command a large contract in the summer, but Barrie is a cap dump?

Well, I literally said not one single thing of that, so I'm not going to defend those positions.

Also not sure how you figure Barrie is outperforming Klingberg, but it's close enough to not worry about enough for a debate.

Here's a short comp between Klingberg and Barrie:

GF% (REL)
B: 48.39 (+2.72)
K: 42.42 (-8.11)

xGF% (REL)
B: 49.54 (-3.63)
K: 47.86 (-4.46)

SCF% (REL)
B: 50.38 (-0.80)
K: 50.55 (-1.18)

HDCF% (REL)
B: 50.78 (+0.69)
K: 49.53 (-5.90)

Their zone starts are nearly identical.

http://naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20212022&thruseason=20212022&stype=2&sit=5v4&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=y&p1=8475197&p2=8475906&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

As someone said upthread, Barrie isn't a good fit for the Islanders unless he can play the left side. Ryan Pulock & Noah Dobson are RD1 & RD2, with Pulock having a $6.15M hit and Dobson in line for an RFA raise to the $3.5-4M range. Adding in Barrie at $4.5M while the left side is Adam Pelech & the Ghosts of Zdeno Chara & Andy Greene is bad asset management, regardless of how well Barrie has been playing.

I agree that Barrie shouldn't be treated as a cap dump, but I think putting him on the Islanders is putting the squarest peg in the roundest hole.

As far as Ross Johnston, I don't get why some Islanders fans want him gone. He's a fine 4th liner, a good physical presence on a team that sees Tom Wilson & Ryan Reaves up to 8 times a year, and he's making barely over the minimum($1.1M AAV for the next 4 years). It's the same kind of contract extension that Scott Mayfield signed that makes him more valuable now, with the additional perk of being something you can bury in the AHL without any worries. It's a no-lose kind of deal for a guy that the coach & GM obviously like.

Pretty much this. Particularly enjoyed the "GhostsXDs of Chara and Greene" part. XD

Heh. These are not individual stats. And Klingberg doesn't have McD and Drai to carry him around half the time. But again, like I said, that one is close enough that it's not worth arguing about.

I can go back years. Barrie has been one of the best offensive defensemen in the league for a decade. This isn't all due to McDavid and Draisaitl. That's a cheap, lazy response.

A decade is irrelevant, man. We're in the now. And by the way, the only thing I actually said was that I'm unconvinced that Barrie would be more valuable to the Isles than Mayfield. All this other stuff is a response to things I didn't say in my initial reply, if at all.