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Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 21 févr. 2022
Publié: 21 févr. 2022
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  1. Chiarot, Ben
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we all know with muzzin might be out so leafs should go and make a trade for chariot
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21 févr. 2022 à 21 h 50
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Quoting: LukaTAG
No? I never quoted plus minus. I said he was a net negative. As in he did more bad than good for the Canadiens in the post season.

Stop sucking Chiarot's dick, he's a 5/6 or worse by every available metric and a terrible shutdown D. Face it, you're gonna get a 3rd for him by some contending team.


Ok, you definetly have no idea whats going on lol. Try watching a playoff game bud.

Every analyst out there is saying he is getting a first lol. I'm more in the camp that his true value is a 2nd and prospect but because how good he is in the playoffs and the fact that half the league have called about him he is definetly getting a first in return.
21 févr. 2022 à 21 h 51
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Ok, you definetly have no idea whats going on lol. Try watching a playoff game bud.

Every analyst out there is saying he is getting a first lol. I'm more in the camp that his true value is a 2nd and prospect but because how good he is in the playoffs and the fact that half the league have called about him he is definetly getting a first in return.


Watched a playoff game. He cross-checked people in front of the net. Other than that, he was dog****.

If he gets a first or a 2nd and a prospect, I feel really bad to whichever team gets him.
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21 févr. 2022 à 21 h 52
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no, you see i want the leafs to add good defencemen, which is what dubas wants too. He dont want bad defenders like chariot


Ya they don't like big defensemen that can play both sides, clear the front of the net, play agaisnt the other teams top line and has a recent history of playing good in the playoffs lol
21 févr. 2022 à 21 h 52
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Funny cause he shut down every player when he was on the ice lol


no, he didnt
21 févr. 2022 à 21 h 54
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Leafs fans are so ignorant so funny to read everything and by the way your teams is in the running for chariot


Yeah, he's what, 15th on their list of acquisition choice?
21 févr. 2022 à 21 h 54
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Ya they don't like big defensemen that can play both sides, clear the front of the net, play agaisnt the other teams top line and has a recent history of playing good in the playoffs lol


nah, they dont like big defencemen that are slow as molasses with no mobility who cant defend a rush or a cycle and needs his partner and C to cover all the pass threats and the goalie to stop every high danger scoring chance he lets by him because he's so focused on crosschecking dudes.
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Leafs fans are so ignorant so funny to read everything and by the way your teams is in the running for chariot


no they arnt
21 févr. 2022 à 21 h 55
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Watched a playoff game. He cross-checked people in front of the net. Other than that, he was dog****.

If he gets a first or a 2nd and a prospect, I feel really bad to whichever team gets him.


I think nhl general managers understand values and playoff performances a lot better than you. If only the leafs had someone that could clear the front of the net and play agaisnt the other teams top lines maybe, just maybe they could have some playoff success. Its hard to outscore your problems in the playoffs fyi
21 févr. 2022 à 21 h 56
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no they arnt


Actually they are lol
21 févr. 2022 à 21 h 56
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
nah, they dont like big defencemen that are slow as molasses with no mobility who cant defend a rush or a cycle and needs his partner and C to cover all the pass threats and the goalie to stop every high danger scoring chance he lets by him because he's so focused on crosschecking dudes.


I guess you didn't watch tonights game? Lol. Have a goodnight buddy
21 févr. 2022 à 21 h 57
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I think nhl general managers understand values and playoff performances a lot better than you. If only the leafs had someone that could clear the front of the net and play agaisnt the other teams top lines maybe, just maybe they could have some playoff success. Its hard to outscore your problems in the playoffs fyi


so you're saying that foligno was worth a 1st? Savard too? Erat was worth forsberg? Damn, those GM's know more than me so clearly those trades that were obviously bad at the time were not!
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21 févr. 2022 à 21 h 57
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Actually they are lol

nope, they certainly are not
21 févr. 2022 à 21 h 57
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I think nhl general managers understand values and playoff performances a lot better than you. If only the leafs had someone that could clear the front of the net and play agaisnt the other teams top lines maybe, just maybe they could have some playoff success. Its hard to outscore your problems in the playoffs fyi


Once again, he was dog**** in the playoffs. Not sure how this is hard for you to understand lmfao. He's not a shutdown guy by any means. Being a shutdown guy means you have to actually be good on defense.
21 févr. 2022 à 21 h 58
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I guess you didn't watch tonights game? Lol. Have a goodnight buddy


i did, and the leafs played like utter crap and chariot still looked bad against every single leaf he faced
21 févr. 2022 à 22 h 1
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nope, they certainly are not


They are.
21 févr. 2022 à 22 h 2
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They are.


no, they arnt. or do only the insider quotes that you like count?
21 févr. 2022 à 22 h 2
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so you're saying that foligno was worth a 1st? Savard too? Erat was worth forsberg? Damn, those GM's know more than me so clearly those trades that were obviously bad at the time were not!


Current market value they know a lot more than you. None of those trades were deemed as bad at the time. And Savard was a key piece to the Lightnings success. He is a similar player (not as good) to Chiarot, so thats a bad example
21 févr. 2022 à 22 h 5
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Once again, he was dog**** in the playoffs. Not sure how this is hard for you to understand lmfao. He's not a shutdown guy by any means. Being a shutdown guy means you have to actually be good on defense.


Please try watching some playoff hockey. I know you're not use to it with you're own team but just try. He is a stud in the playoffs plain and simple. Passes every eye test. And his advance analytics in the playoffs are actaully good lol
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no, they arnt. or do only the insider quotes that you like count?


Actually they are per the fourth period the teams that are interested in chariot are NY rangers, boston, Toronto, st louis, calgary, florida and LA kings
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Current market value they know a lot more than you. None of those trades were deemed as bad at the time. And Savard was a key piece to the Lightnings success. He is a similar player (not as good) to Chiarot, so thats a bad example


yeah, none of this is true. the Erat and Foligno trades were by far called over payments or flat out awful from the second they happened and Savard was barely used at all during that run. he played less than Jan Rutta and he only got that much in a trade because the market was very very thin.
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21 févr. 2022 à 22 h 7
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Please try watching some playoff hockey. I know you're not use to it with you're own team but just try. He is a stud in the playoffs plain and simple. Passes every eye test. And his advance analytics in the playoffs are actaully good lol


I watched all the games. He was BAD. Which analytics are you referring to?
21 févr. 2022 à 22 h 7
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Please try watching some playoff hockey. I know you're not use to it with you're own team but just try. He is a stud in the playoffs plain and simple. Passes every eye test. And his advance analytics in the playoffs are actaully good lol


you should try paying attention, he fails every eye test and his advanced analytics in the playoffs were literally bottom of the league. He was by far the worst player on his own team in scoring impacts
21 févr. 2022 à 22 h 9
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Actually they are per the fourth period the teams that are interested in chariot are NY rangers, boston, Toronto, st louis, calgary, florida and LA kings


actually they werent according to Friedman's latest and Frank Seravalli as of like 2 days ago
21 févr. 2022 à 22 h 11
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Actually they are published today a lot can happen in 2 days lol
21 févr. 2022 à 22 h 39
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Lol no, maybe on Montreal. He sucks defensively and offensively, the only thing he can do is take that twig and crosscheck in front of his own net.


the leafs had justin holl and travis dermott tonight. we could very much use a guy like ben chiarot. do you forget how good he played against us in the playoffs last year? now i dont think the leafs would spend as much on him as foligno but trust everyone when they say Chiarot is better than Holl and dermott
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