Looks good, not sure if the Jets would do it but there would be a taker for Dumba for sure.

I think Fiala could be signed long term for less than 7mil, I’d take a couple 100k’s of it.

Kähkönen won’t sign long term yet. He has potential to be a starter so I think signing a 5year 2,5mil isn’t in his best interest. 1year around 1,5-2,5 would be more like it and if he takes the starter role he’ll get a Cal Petersen type of deal in the next off-season while still being an rfa

I’d agree, hopefully Fiala will take somewhat of a discount considering he actually has some line mates now and I’d assume he wants to stay with a cup contending team. As for Kahkonen that was my thought exactly and the reason I locked him up long term in this situation, if we can lock him up long term, the future goalie duo would be Wallstedt/Kahkonen for the next 10 to 12 years if all goes as planned. I think Guerin will get a similar package to this for Dumba, I chose Winnipeg because they have a really good roster with blue chip prospects on the brink of breaking the starting lineup so if they could shore up the defensive core on the right side with Dumba, I think they’d be okay giving up a 1st round pick and a B-level prospect.

I get that they’d like to get that type of deal for Kähkönen but there is no reason for him and his agent to take that deal when they know that in a year or two he might be a 5mil+ goalie.

I know I did this based off what I would want to happen

Goli needs to go away.

I'm nickel and diming my way to keep Dumba. If I can't make it work, Fiala is gone.

I'd WAY rather keep that pick and Chibrikov.

Unlikely Winnipeg considers giving up that much for one year of Dumba. The Jets need a bigger, shutdown type RHD.

Who would that RHD be? And who/what are you giving up for that?

It depends. In the off season various guys become available for various reasons. So, it will depend on who is available and what the ask is and if the Jets decide to change direction in the off season.

Are you trying to sound like Chevy. Pick a guy and say what you'd give up for him, I believe that's whole idea behind AGM. You said the Jets need is a big shutdown RHD so pick a guy you think would fill that role and what you'd be willing to trade to acquire that player.

Goligoski is the highest scoring Dman on the team and the Wild have a replacement for Dumba but no replacement for Fiala, how is any of what you said logical?

Wild have no replacement for Dumba. Addison is a Spurgeon type d-man, not a Dumba type d-man.

Goli's points were an anomaly. His adv stats are meh. His 5v5 play isn't good. He can't PK. There are better options for the PP than him. He doesn't pair well with anyone on the team (maybe Brodin?). He's not physical. He's slower than Suter.

I'm just going to say with Schmidt, Pionk and Demelo all under contract for at least 2 more years after this season and JMo, Dillon, Heinola, Samberg and Stanley on the left side adding any RHD is totally unrealistic unless DeMelo of Schmidt are traded and even then we probably look in house at 6'5 Johnny Kovacevic to play bottom pair minutes to get some size and grit.

If we were going to acquire a player I would suggest we go after Manson first as a UFA. Winnipeg isn't a really a FA destination typically but he's from sask and his dad was a Jet so you never know.

Top pair RHD are rarely traded. The ask in the OP isn't bad as it's similar to what we got back for 1 year of Trouba but Trouba was only willing to go to one team so it was tough to get a fair return.

Anyhow, I know you didn't ask me but I'd suggest that we're set based on the contracts that we already have in place and we'd need to move somebody out to make this Dumba trade make any sense.

What does it matter if Addison is a Spurgeon type Dman? I’d much rather have 2 Spurgeons than a Spurgeon and a Dumba. Also you may be right with Goligoski but it’s not like we have any better options given the cap issues. Let me put it this way, it’s a whole lot easier to replace Dumba given Addison is just playing keep away in the AHL, we don’t have a winger prospect that can produce anywhere near as well as Fiala does.

It's easier to replace Fiala than Dumba. Put Rossi and Body as Freddy G's wings and there ya go for next year.

The d-corps is bad this season. It looks even worse without Dumba. I'd rather have a 1RD and a 6D/pp specialist over a 2 6D/pp specialists. 6D/pp specialist is Spurgeon's usage this year. 1RD is Dumba's usage this year.

That’s easy to say but we didn’t draft Rossi to play wing and he won’t put up Fiala numbers for at least a couple seasons. You trade Dumba, have Addison play with Brodin and have Rossi Center Fiala and Boldy and drop Gaudreau down to play with Dewar and Duhaime. Guerin can let Goligoski walk and find a new Dman to play with Spurgeon in UFA.

I don't care if they didn't draft Rossi to play wing. It's where he fits best in the lineup. And you can actually have afford to have a decent d-corps and some depth.

I don't want to trade Fiala, but I don't want to be keep on this track of becoming another TOR. TOR from the last couple years is the team MN is this year. Outscore their weak d-corps and meh goaltending. Then get exposed by quality teams that play a tight game.

You do realize that Minnesota has the 5th highest scoring defensive corps and have allowed the 7th least amount of goals this season right? Also, they’ve beat several quality teams this season, I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Could the Dcorps be better? Sure. But to say that they have a weak Dcorps is just ignorant.

Yep outscoring their problems. It's not like pulling the goalie with 5 mins left in the game because they are down 2 goals hasn't been a theme this year.

Possible Playoff matchups COL, NSH, VGK, STL, WIN, DAL. Combined record of 12 games: 3-8-1
Take out the Jets (I don't think they make the Playoffs) and it's 1-6-1. One of those wins against the Jets wins was a lazy offsides away from being a loss.

The reason it’s been a theme is because the special teams has been the issue and now they’re coming around, not because of bad defense. Like I said, 5th highest scoring defensive corps and the 7th least allowed goals in the league. You can’t realistically tell me that’s a bad defensive corps. Not to mention they haven’t had all 6 starting D men fully healthy and playing together since mid December.

Yes it's bad. 5v5 GA/60 is 20th. They lead the league in playing with an EN by a wide margin. The adv stats put them 10th-20th in most categories. They've had one of the weakest SoS up to this point. They've beat the bad teams like they should, but the record against good teams isn't good. They aren't shutting any other teams down by any means.

Yes they've had injuries, but so has every other team in the league.

After tonight’s game I’m beginning to agree with you, Guerin kinda screwed himself over by signing all those defenseman last off season. Should’ve just signed Goligoski and one of Kulikov or Merrill and had Addison move to the lineup full time. Nobody can realistically tell me that Addison isn’t better than Kulikov, Merrill, and Benn.