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Créé par: bald_and_bankrupt

Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 17 févr. 2022

Publié: 17 févr. 2022

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Chris Johnston on Ben Chiarot: “The Maple Leafs I know have called on him a fair bit & some believe that they might bit… you know, perhaps even the front runner or one of the front runners to land him.”

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TOR

Chiarot, Ben (1 500 000 $ retained)

MTL

Ritchie, Nick
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)

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Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	81 500 000 $	79 169 783 $	0 $	0 $	2 330 217 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Bunting, Michael 950 000 $950 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 3	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD UFA - 4
Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 4	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 3
Mikheyev, Ilya 1 645 000 $1 645 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Kämpf, David 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ C UFA - 2	Kase, Ondrej 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Engvall, Pierre 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Spezza, Jason 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Simmonds, Wayne 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG NTC UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 1	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 3	Mrázek, Petr 3 800 000 $3 800 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 3
Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 3	Chiarot, Ben 250 000 $250 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Campbell, Jack 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ G UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus 894 167 $894 167 $ DG UFA - 1	Dermott, Travis 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Holl, Justin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2

17 févr. 2022 à 16 h 47

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CJ then tweaks what he said about them being a front runner & says “To be more specific & more clear, TOR seems to have a high degree of interest in him, but you know, they’re not alone. TOR gets us probably the clicks if we use that, but they’re not the only team.”(2/2)
— Joseph Zita (@josephdzita) February 17, 2022

Then goes on to say naming TOR gets them the most “clicks” so well done

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17 févr. 2022 à 16 h 48

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Quoting: MatthewsFan

CJ then tweaks what he said about them being a front runner & says “To be more specific & more clear, TOR seems to have a high degree of interest in him, but you know, they’re not alone. TOR gets us probably the clicks if we use that, but they’re not the only team.”(2/2)
— Joseph Zita (@josephdzita) February 17, 2022

Then goes on to say naming TOR gets them the most “clicks” so well done

Leafs need Ben Chiarot, he's physical and plays playoff hockey

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17 févr. 2022 à 16 h 48

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Since TOR crumbled in the last playoffs after Muzzin injury and Chiarot is the only top 4 they can afford, it makes total sense.

They will never go throught Florida teams without him.

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17 févr. 2022 à 16 h 49

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Quoting: MatthewsFan

CJ then tweaks what he said about them being a front runner & says “To be more specific & more clear, TOR seems to have a high degree of interest in him, but you know, they’re not alone. TOR gets us probably the clicks if we use that, but they’re not the only team.”(2/2)
— Joseph Zita (@josephdzita) February 17, 2022

Then goes on to say naming TOR gets them the most “clicks” so well done

Screenshotting Tweets as a reference 🤝 we love to see it

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17 févr. 2022 à 16 h 54

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Quoting: jpsnow13

Since TOR crumbled in the last playoffs after Muzzin injury and Chiarot is the only top 4 they can afford, it makes total sense.

They will never go throught Florida teams without him.

Lauzon > Chiarot
younger, cheaper, better

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17 févr. 2022 à 16 h 57

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Quoting: jpsnow13

Since TOR crumbled in the last playoffs after Muzzin injury and Chiarot is the only top 4 they can afford, it makes total sense.

They will never go throught Florida teams without him.

I don’t think Florida is the issue, Tampa will be

17 févr. 2022 à 16 h 58

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Quoting: MatthewsFan

Lauzon > Chiarot
younger, cheaper, better

Lauzon isn’t proven in the playoffs. Chiarot is. Leafs don’t need someone to bet on again, they need to know what they’re getting and they need someone with the physicality of Chairot. Makes sense that they’re in on him

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17 févr. 2022 à 16 h 58

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yeah you aren't getting chiarot for that crap bud. ritichie is a cap dump. you gotta ADD assets to get rid of him. and mtl will prob take him but with incentive. on top of those assets, you add a 1st rd pick and more chiarot. all signs point towards him fetching a good prospect and a 1st.

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17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 0

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Quoting: Hockey247

And there’s the unspoken “in division tax” thing that a lot of team adhere to. Probably doesn’t add much, but I’d imagine if another team puts out an offer that is “equal” to Toronto’s, I’ll bet the Habs pick them over their hated rivals.

17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 2

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Quoting: JGDD11

rmr what the leafs paid for plekanec? a 2nd pick plus more. and he was a 4th liner

17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 6

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Yes, this is the man that will save the Leafs.

And it will only cost them a 1st plus a prospect 🤦‍♂️

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17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 7

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Quoting: Hockey247

rmr what the leafs paid for plekanec? a 2nd pick plus more. and he was a 4th liner

Exactly. And on top of that they sent him to Toronto as a favour to him cause he went to management and asked if he was going to be traded, if it could be somewhere close to Montreal since his family was there and he didn’t want to move them.

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17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 7

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Quoting: MatthewsFan

Lauzon > Chiarot
younger, cheaper, better

I disagree about Lauzon been better right now (will become down the line for sure), but I do agree Lauzon (or Soucy) could upgrade TML defence core right now for cheap. Also Lauzon does play well on the right side.

But if you want to beat FLO or TB this year, you want Chiarot's grit and experience. And those teams not getting him instead! If TML wouldget Lauzon but FLO gets Chiarot, they are still in big trouble...

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17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 7

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Modifié 17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 30

Quoting: MatthewsFan

Yes, this is the man that will save the Leafs.

And it will only cost them a 1st plus a prospect 🤦‍♂️

You seem to be forgetting what he did to the leafs last year in the playoffs. Remember how well Matthews and Marner did? Oh wait.

17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 11

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Quoting: MatthewsFan

Yes, this is the man that will save the Leafs.

And it will only cost them a 1st plus a prospect 🤦‍♂️

LOL that man and Weber had your guys crying in an Amazon documentary.

In the void.. he is not worth a first... but as a rental - for a chance at a cup, he is. ( we are talking a late 1st round pick... not a top15...)

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17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 14

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Trades a little off. Chiarot will get a 2022 1st, an “B”-“A” prospect, and prolly an roster player to replace him alone, than you gotta include half salary, that will add to the trade. And if you send Cap dump, it’ll cost more.

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17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 15

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Quoting: jpsnow13

I disagree about Lauzon been better right now (will become down the line for sure), but I do agree Lauzon and Soucy could upgrade TML defence core right now for cheap.

But if you want to beat FLO or TB this year, you want Chiarot's grit and experience. (and those teams not getting him instead!)

The Leafs are 5th in points %, 6th in goals for, 5th in GA, 1st in PP, 6th PK, this is a fukcin good team. The gauntlet that awaits them this year is ridiculous. Both TBL and FLA are amazing teams. Last year, sure push the chips in and go all in. But if Dubas trades a 1st + for Chiarot and they lose he deserves to be fired. Hell, any GM that gives MTL that should, Ben is terrible.

I would and hope Kyle does as well, takes his chances with the current team with a minor adds (Lauzon, Lyubushkin, Schenn)

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17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 17

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Quoting: Hockey247

You know that the Leafs wouldn't dare to pay more than a 2nd for Chiarot, right? Habs have no leverage after his injury and Hughes played all his cards during his press conference. He sounded vulnerable and scared to not get a deal done

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17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 18

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Quoting: MatthewsFan

LOL you should know by now TML regular season stats doesn't mean crap.

Whatever Dubas does, he will be fired if the team doesn't win at least 2 rounds.

He needs to go all in and shouldn't care to trade away a 1st, he won't be there anymore anyway...

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17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 24

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Quoting: jpsnow13

Absolutely trade the 1st, for a player that deserves it. (Hertl, Miller, Garland, Severson)

And win or lose this playoffs, he is not getting fired. The core will be broken up, but Kyle will be doing it.

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17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 25

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Quoting: MatthewsFan

Lauzon > Chiarot
younger, cheaper, better

. . . longer . . .

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17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 27

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

. . . longer . . .

Lauzon will be a sneaky good add for some team should SEA want to trade him

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17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 31

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Quoting: MatthewsFan

The salary cap has entered the chat.

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17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 33

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I wouldn’t mind if it’s Chiarot at 50% for Ritchie straight up.

No good futures (3rd or higher) or good prospects should be going the other way.

17 févr. 2022 à 17 h 35

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Quoting: JGDD11

The salary cap has entered the chat.

Never heard of retention???

Also Hertl Remaining Daily Cap Hit Tooltip : $1,996,875 at the TDL will be even lower.

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