yeah, they're not getting that for Hagel. That's the price because they dont want to move him at all and it would take a stupid over pay so they're blatantly saying it would take a stupid over pay.
when teams do this the player is basically never traded

Thats so much

I don't think Toronto fans are ever going to want to trade away Amirov, Knies, or Robertson

From what I've been hearing, CHI wants more than a top prospect and a 1st to even consider trading him. So I think you might be a little light on Hagel's return.

apparently teams have offered around this much so who knows

Were the Devils mentioned as possible landing spot?

Devils, Flames, Panthers, Leafs

You obviously haven't watch Brandon Hagel. He's 23 on an amazing deal and he's on pace for 50 points, Brandon Hagel is the Blackhawk's workhorse, he has the best work ethic on the whole team, every shift he shows the most energy on the ice. Personally I'd get super pissed if Chicago traded him, that's how much he's important to the team. He's gritty player with very good offensive capacities. I know for a fact if Brandon Hagel was on the Maple Leafs everyone would love him

Just a normal list of four elite, stantley cup favorites, I guess

(ho-hum)

well a 1st and a good prospect is a huge value range, the leafs 1st and a guy like Abramov qualifies, but so does arizona's 1st and Guenther. without details it's basically impossible to pin down value. This just sounds like chicago is asking if people wanna get crazy then they might play

dude, 23 year old wingers on pace for 50 points arnt worth top end prospects and 1st, it doesnt matter how hard he works. they just arnt. This is chicago purposfully over valuing a guy because it doesnt make sense to trade him unless a team gets dumb.

Panthers? Wow, who wrote the article? I quite don't get why we would be in on Hagel

yeah, the panthers basically have 6 guys who can play LW, they dont make sense at all

Hagel plays RW like half the time also. He's been playing on a Debrincat-Dach-Hagel line the last few weeks. Based on pratice today it looks like we'll see Hagel-Strome-Kane tonight.

yeah, but florida also has like 7 guys who can play RW (and about the same who can play C), Hagel seems like a weird choice for them to go after no matter where he plays unless it's top 4 LD

Leafs easily accept

TOR adds more if Robertson is in the deal?

Hard pass. As Jared said above, they are asking for the moon with the intention of not moving him. Can't see anyone paying this.

I was just stating a fact. The Hawks have supposedly already turned down bids for him that would've given CHI a high end prospect and a 1st. I watch Brandon Hagel every time the Hawks play. I know exactly how important he is to the team and what he is worth.

I think you severely underrate Hagel. He's a sophomore in the league on a fantastically cheap 3 year deal. Ive watched Mangiapane grow into the player he currently is over the last 4 years and have also watched my fair share of Hagel. He is following a nearly identical development path, has just as good of a work ethic, and has a very similar play style. Only thing I would say he really needs to work on in comparison is his stick handling.

Im not sure about you but adding the next Mangiapane to your roster on a dirt cheap deal and for 2 more years after this (and he's an RFA at the end) sounds like a great investment

The thing about developing players is that they arnt constants. Hagel could have peaked and he couls become jarome Iginla 2.0. Mangiapane was valued lower because he didnt have the value then. Value is earned, hagel hasnt earned significant value yet.
The fact that he has promise is why Chicago wont give him up for a silly price, but that doesnt mean that's what he's worth to the market

2 years ago (which is where I consider Hagel in his current development) Mangiapane was valued about the same as Kapanen to the Leafs. He returned #15 OA. I don't think a late 1st and a top prospect is unreasonable at all right now as a base. (Im not saying elite prospect). Hagel is on pace for 50 points, at 23 Kapanen paved 43 in Toronto

Kapanen had 1st round pedigree which (wrongly) ups market value, He also had just come off a 20 goal 40+ point campaign mostly on the 3rd line and was on pace to do better than that. Also everyone at the time said it was an over payment. And even so ,one trade doesnt set the market.

I considered it a slight overpayment, I thought he was worth a 1st in the 20-25 range. However we are not GM's.

I am also not saying that trade sets the market by any means. I am simply giving you context that you might be able to relate to. Last year as a rookie Hagel paced 38 points (not his fault it was a shortened season). This year as a sophomore he is on pace for 50 points and has a pretty good shot at hitting it at least 20 goals and 40 points.

I've compared his game to and work ethic to Mangiapane too. Then you factor in he's only 23, has 2 more years left at 1.5M and is still an RFA at the end and the asking price starts making sense. I am not saying it has to specifically be Toronto here but I completely understand why Chicago is asking for this

well yeah, it makes a ton of sense for chicago to ask for as much as they can. they have no reason to move him considering that they basically have to try and be good within the next 2-3 years after the Jones trade so they'll ask for the moon. They're pricing him out of the market on purpose

Its probs gonna be robertson and a 1st if it happens as Amirov has a brain tumor