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Créé par: Drsods17
Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 16 févr. 2022
Publié: 17 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
33 450 000 $
21 500 000 $
33 000 000 $
2875 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
54 000 000 $
37 000 000 $
54 250 000 $
42 100 000 $
31 650 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
2.
PIT
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Lavoie, Raphael
  3. Yamamoto, Kailer [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
3.
STL
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
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2022
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2023
Logo de PIT
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Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
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Logo de TOR
2024
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Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
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2281 500 000 $76 329 167 $0 $82 500 $5 170 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 1
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
C
UFA
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
UFA - 4
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
870 000 $870 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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17 févr. 2022 à 8 h 34
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Can't see that getting you Tarasenko.
17 févr. 2022 à 8 h 38
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Take out Lavoie and the Oilers accept. They dont have alot of right shot wingers in their system, they would be giving up 2 in this deal. Maybe swap Lavoie with Savoie.
17 févr. 2022 à 8 h 41
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Pens decline the first two trades. Were not trading Guentzel and even if we did it would be a way better return
17 févr. 2022 à 8 h 44
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Not sure why PIT is moving Guentzel.

Pretty underwhelming for Vladdy.
17 févr. 2022 à 9 h 7
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Take out Lavoie and the Oilers accept. They dont have alot of right shot wingers in their system, they would be giving up 2 in this deal. Maybe swap Lavoie with Savoie.

Edmonton has more right shot forward prospects in the system than left shot. And Savoie has more value than Lavoie.

I'd rank Edmonton's forward prospects like this:

Holloway L
Savoie L
Bourgault R
Petrov R
Lavoie R
Tullio R
Berezkin R
Denezhkin L
17 févr. 2022 à 9 h 17
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Edmonton has more right shot forward prospects in the system than left shot. And Savoie has more value than Lavoie.

I'd rank Edmonton's forward prospects like this:

Holloway L
Savoie L
Bourgault R
Petrov R
Lavoie R
Tullio R
Berezkin R
Denezhkin L


Holloway L
Bourgault R
Lavoie R
Savoie L
Petrov- plays LW

The rest probably wont be NHL regulars and Savoie is a shrimp, further away from being NHL ready, & doesnt play C as well as wing, so Lavoie>Savoie.
17 févr. 2022 à 9 h 41
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I’d say Edmonton’s cap situation moving forward is a huge stumbling block in making a move like this.
17 févr. 2022 à 9 h 46
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I’d say Edmonton’s cap situation moving forward is a huge stumbling block in making a move like this.


With our cap situation and overall team need... really would be better off going for another top 4 Dman or starting goalie if you're going to make a blockbuster trade.
17 févr. 2022 à 10 h 17
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Pens decline the first 2, St. Louis declines the Kap trade
17 févr. 2022 à 10 h 23
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Quoting: ceeque84
Holloway L
Bourgault R
Lavoie R
Savoie L
Petrov- plays LW

The rest probably wont be NHL regulars and Savoie is a shrimp, further away from being NHL ready, & doesnt play C as well as wing, so Lavoie>Savoie.

Lavoie doesn't play center either, never has. You should get to know the prospects on the team, they're fun to follow.

Savoie is posting similar NHLe's in NCAA as Cole Caufield - he has a far higher ceiling than Lavoie. Perhaps Bourgault is ahead of him, I have all of Bourgault, Savoie and Petrov very close to each other. Petrov shoots right.

Here is their current age and NHLe:

Savoie, 20: 22-24-46
Petrov, 18: 18-23-41
Bourgault, 19: 20-20-40
Lavoie, 21: 12-12-24
Tullio, 19: 15-22-37

Recently Lavoie seems to have settled in and is scoring at a point-per-game pace, so I think his NHLe will rise towards the end of the season. But right now he's the oldest of the 5 and has the lowest production, although he is playing in the hardest league. Right now Savoie looks like a 20+ goal scorer in the NHL, while Lavoie does not. Lavoie may be closer to playing in the NHL, but his ultimate ceiling appears to be lower.
17 févr. 2022 à 10 h 27
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Quoting: ceeque84
Holloway L
Bourgault R
Lavoie R
Savoie L
Petrov- plays LW

The rest probably wont be NHL regulars and Savoie is a shrimp, further away from being NHL ready, & doesnt play C as well as wing, so Lavoie>Savoie.

I wouldn't be so sure: https://theathletic.com/2794655/2021/08/29/lowetide-why-oilers-fans-should-be-excited-about-the-progress-of-maxim-berezkin/?amp
17 févr. 2022 à 10 h 31
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Holloway L
Bourgault R
Lavoie R
Savoie L
Petrov- plays LW

The rest probably wont be NHL regulars and Savoie is a shrimp, further away from being NHL ready, & doesnt play C as well as wing, so Lavoie>Savoie.


Quoting: CD282
Lavoie doesn't play center either, never has. You should get to know the prospects on the team, they're fun to follow.

Savoie is posting similar NHLe's in NCAA as Cole Caufield - he has a far higher ceiling than Lavoie. Perhaps Bourgault is ahead of him, I have all of Bourgault, Savoie and Petrov very close to each other. Petrov shoots right.

Here is their current age and NHLe:

Savoie, 20: 22-24-46
Petrov, 18: 18-23-41
Bourgault, 19: 20-20-40
Lavoie, 21: 12-12-24
Tullio, 19: 15-22-37

Recently Lavoie seems to have settled in and is scoring at a point-per-game pace, so I think his NHLe will rise towards the end of the season. But right now he's the oldest of the 5 and has the lowest production, although he is playing in the hardest league. Right now Savoie looks like a 20+ goal scorer in the NHL, while Lavoie does not. Lavoie may be closer to playing in the NHL, but his ultimate ceiling appears to be lower.

I should point out that Lavoie's recent point-per-game pace in the AHL would result in an NHLe of 20-20-40 if maintained long term. So his production right now as a 21-year-old is behind 20-year-old Savoie and about where 19-year-old Bourgault and 18-year-old Petrov are at.
17 févr. 2022 à 11 h 0
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Banni
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Quoting: ceeque84
Take out Lavoie and the Oilers accept. They dont have alot of right shot wingers in their system, they would be giving up 2 in this deal. Maybe swap Lavoie with Savoie.


your not getting Jake.

what's even more funny than how bad that trade is for PIT, is that you have somehow come to the conclusion that it's an over pay?
because 40 goal wingers grow on trees.
 
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