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Créé par: GeneralLandro
Équipe: 2021-22 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 17 févr. 2022
Publié: 17 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Let’s talk some trades
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1.
ANA
  1. Iorio, Vincent
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
WSH
  1. Rakell, Rickard (1 750 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
2.
ANA
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (STL)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
A prospect
STL
  1. Lindholm, Hampus (2 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Resigns in STL
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ANA
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
A prospect ?
FLA
  1. Manson, Josh (2 050 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Not 100% sure the destination
4.
ANA
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
VGK
    Need some cap space to bring Stone back to the lineup or another addition?
    5.
    ANA
    1. Hague, Nicolas
    Détails additionnels:
    Not sure they can resign him so interested in getting a little more than the likely 2nd rounder offer sheet teams will be submitting for Hague
    VGK
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
    6.
    ANA
    1. Ritchie, Nick
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
    Détails additionnels:
    How bad do you want him gone?
    TOR
    7.
    ANA
    1. Koskinen, Mikko
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
    Détails additionnels:
    More here for the curiosity not a trade I believe happens
    EDM
    1. Stolarz, Anthony
    Détails additionnels:
    This is here just because I’m curious, how badly does Edmonton really need a goalie as well as what would Stolarz’s trade value be since he has played very well this year
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    RFA - 2
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    17 févr. 2022 à 0 h 40
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    Blues accept
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    17 févr. 2022 à 0 h 41
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    Blues accept


    What would you guys be willing to pay if he were to resign with you guys as well?
    17 févr. 2022 à 0 h 44
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    Rakell good return
    That's way too much for lindholm 1st + A prospect not more
    Manson for sure isn't getting that. 2nd + 4th
    Dadonov scouts like a 3rd to dump
    Hague could be for 2 2nds
    Ritchie and stolarz Value good.
    You're put to lunch if you think lindholm and Manson will return that
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    17 févr. 2022 à 0 h 54
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    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    What would you guys be willing to pay if he were to resign with you guys as well?


    proably this tbh i think the second is for the resign guarantee
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    17 févr. 2022 à 0 h 56
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    Quoting: xercuses
    proably this tbh i think the second is for the resign guarantee


    The 1 the 2 and a prospect?
    17 févr. 2022 à 0 h 56
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    Why wouldn't Anaheim want to re-sign Lindholm? Seems like the one UFA the Ducks should keep out of their current crop
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    17 févr. 2022 à 0 h 57
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    The 1 the 2 and a prospect?


    yea i think he gets a first and a good prospect rn with a sign in trade in place id add a second maybe two
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 1
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    yea i think he gets a first and a good prospect rn with a sign in trade in place id add a second maybe two


    Assuming Neighbours is off limits .. Kostin?
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 4
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    Add an extension to Lindholm and take Scandella and Blues sweeten it for you.
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 4
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    Yeah just what St Louis needs 4 Dmen making $6,500,000+ Faulk, Parayko, Lindholm and Krug.
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 5
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    Quoting: jwg314
    Add an extension to Lindholm and take Scandella and Blues sweeten it for you.


    Oof on Scandella

    I guess it does make a little sense but 100% would depend on the sweetener, imo
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 11
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    Oof on Scandella


    Has to happen for Blues cap. That's why Blues would sweeten it. He only has two more years on his contract and it doesn't hurt you cap-wise and he can coast on whatever pairing you want him on. He's still NHL-caliber. If Blues go for Lindholm, Army would want him long-term, not just a rental, that's just how he is.
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 13
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    Has to happen for Blues cap. That's why Blues would sweeten it. He only has two more years on his contract and it doesn't hurt you cap-wise and he can coast on whatever pairing you want him on. He's still NHL-caliber. If Blues go for Lindholm, Army would want him long-term, not just a rental, that's just how he is.


    Yeah no fair. Edited my response a little late

    What do you have the deal looking like then?
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 15
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    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    Assuming Neighbours is off limits .. Kostin?


    im not ready to give up on him but yea id do it
    tho fyi scandella would have to go back for cap to work id pay a 3rd at most for him to go back
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    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 15
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    Quoting: jwg314
    Has to happen for Blues cap. That's why Blues would sweeten it. He only has two more years on his contract and it doesn't hurt you cap-wise and he can coast on whatever pairing you want him on. He's still NHL-caliber. If Blues go for Lindholm, Army would want him long-term, not just a rental, that's just how he is.


    I will propose Scandella, Bolduc/Kostin, 1st, 2nd for Lindholm with retention ROS and a long-term extension in place.
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 15
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    Yeah no fair. Edited my response a little late

    What do you have the deal looking like then?


    Proposal above. Scandella will be perfectly serviceable on your 3rd pairing and we'll give you more just to take him.
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 17
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    Quoting: Sicarius
    Blues accept


    Nope. He's asking too much. Army isn't going over a barrel for this.


    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    What would you guys be willing to pay if he were to resign with you guys as well?


    Absolutely not. This sort of thing is no longer allowed by the CBA.


    Quoting: xercuses
    proably this tbh i think the second is for the resign guarantee


    This is no longer allowed by the CBA, and Army isn't doing that anyway.


    Quoting: xercuses
    yea i think he gets a first and a good prospect rn with a sign in trade in place id add a second maybe two


    Now it's two 2nds??? Do you not understand how negotiating works? The idea is to try and do better for your side, not to generously throw in assets that weren't asked for. And again, Army is not doing that crap.


    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    Assuming Neighbours is off limits .. Kostin?


    You want a 1st, a 2nd and Neighbours now? neutral Do bear in mind that xercuses is not actually in charge of negotiating for the Blues. Exactly none of what he's offering is realistic. But yes, Neighbours is a no-go here. Obviously. And Kostin is a roster player, so he's almost certainly out of the question, as well. Reel it in, my friend.
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 18
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    im not ready to give up on him but yea id do it
    tho fyi scandella would have to go back for cap to work id pay a 3rd at most for him to go back


    Quoting: jwg314
    I will propose Scandella, Bolduc/Kostin, 1st, 2nd for Lindholm with retention ROS and a long-term extension in place.


    Scandella coming back doesn’t really sound so bad anymore
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    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 18
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    Scandella coming back doesn’t really sound so bad anymore


    I hope Army is already on it tbh
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 22
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    You want a 1st, a 2nd and Neighbours now? neutral Do bear in mind that xercuses is not actually in charge of negotiating for the Blues. Exactly none of what he's offering is realistic. But yes, Neighbours is a no-go here. Obviously. And Kostin is a roster player, so he's almost certainly out of the question, as well. Reel it in, my friend.


    My man, we just playing couch GM out here just asking questions, hanging out, having a good ol time. It isn’t too deep

    So let’s ask — your thoughts on a Lindholm to STL deal?
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 26
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    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    My man, we just playing couch GM out here just asking questions, hanging out, having a good ol time. It isn’t too deep

    So let’s ask — your thoughts on a Lindholm to STL deal?



    You already have them, remember?
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 29
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    You already have them, remember?


    Ahh you right, apologize for the lack of brain power at this hour

    Was it like a 1st 3rd and prospect?
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 32
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    Nope. He's asking too much. Army isn't going over a barrel for this.




    Absolutely not. This sort of thing is no longer allowed by the CBA.




    This is no longer allowed by the CBA, and Army isn't doing that anyway.




    Now it's two 2nds??? Do you not understand how negotiating works? The idea is to try and do better for your side, not to generously throw in assets that weren't asked for. And again, Army is not doing that crap.




    You want a 1st, a 2nd and Neighbours now? neutral Do bear in mind that xercuses is not actually in charge of negotiating for the Blues. Exactly none of what he's offering is realistic. But yes, Neighbours is a no-go here. Obviously. And Kostin is a roster player, so he's almost certainly out of the question, as well. Reel it in, my friend.


    so wouldnt give up a first, 2 seconds or a second and kostin, scandella, for lindholm 50% now and a reasonable extension in place
    wow thats just wow Thats very fair imo yes kostin is a roster player and a damn good one but not a guy that will really get into the top 9 here espesially with neighbours on his way in a year or 2 so id be willing to give him up and roll brown or joshua in his spot
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    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 32
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    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    My man, we just playing couch GM out here just asking questions, hanging out, having a good ol time. It isn’t too deep

    So let’s ask — your thoughts on a Lindholm to STL deal?


    My fellow Blues fan is the biggest sweat lord a-hole on the board, don't pay him too much mind. I have him muted but can still somehow see his posts before I open to comment.
    17 févr. 2022 à 1 h 36
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    Quoting: xercuses
    so wouldnt give up a first, 2 seconds or a second and kostin, scandella, for lindholm 50% now and a reasonable extension in place
    wow thats just wow Thats very fair imo yes kostin is a roster player and a damn good one but not a guy that will really get into the top 9 here espesially with neighbours on his way in a year or 2 so id be willing to give him up and roll brown or joshua in his spot


    Absolutely not, that is highway robbery, and for the 317th time, re-signing conditions are NOT allowed anymore.

    And if this is what Anaheim expects, screw 'em, we'll go get Soucy for worlds cheaper.
     
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