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Deal or No Deal

Créé par: GeneralLandro
Équipe: 2021-22 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 11 févr. 2022
Publié: 13 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
ANA
  1. Kostin, Klim
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (STL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (STL)
STL
  1. Lindholm, Hampus (2 500 000 $ retained)
2.
ANA
  1. Iorio, Vincent
  2. Schultz, Justin
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Schultz is a cap dump?
If not, remove him from here
WSH
  1. Rakell, Rickard (1 750 000 $ retained)
3.
ANA
  1. Barron, Justin
Détails additionnels:
Add a cap dump?
Murray maybe?
COL
  1. Manson, Josh (2 050 000 $ retained)
4.
ANA
  1. Hague, Nicolas
Détails additionnels:
Don’t think Vegas will have the cap to resign Hague
VGK
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
5.
ANA
  1. Boeser, Brock
Détails additionnels:
Signs 7 x $6,925,000
VAN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (STL)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
Barron
or
Iorio
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2024
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
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AD
UFA - 1
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2 037 500 $2 037 500 $
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 500 000 $$2M)
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NMC
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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874 125 $874 125 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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791 667 $791 667 $
DG
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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809 166 $809 166 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 295 000 $1 295 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
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925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DD
RFA - 3
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13 févr. 2022 à 16 h 37
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Ducks accept all of the deals. Caps, Avs and Canucks likely decline.
13 févr. 2022 à 16 h 40
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Quoting: TZ11
Ducks accept all of the deals. Caps, Avs and Canucks likely decline.


I’d say take out kostin or the second and make it a third
And I rather have our 2023 first traded and our second so that way we have a first or a second every year but that’s not a big deal to me
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Ducks accept all of the deals. Caps, Avs and Canucks likely decline.


I’ve been sitting on these for a little while and seen fans of each say yes

Fan of bringing in Boeser and Hague at those if they were accepted?
13 févr. 2022 à 16 h 42
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I think St.Louis would rather hold onto Kostin. He's finally fitting in a bottom 6 role well and will be needed for a playoff run. Probably some decent prospects that would work instead. A 1st, Simon Robertsson and a 3rd would seem more fair.
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13 févr. 2022 à 16 h 44
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I’ve been sitting on these for a little while and seen fans of each say yes

Fan of bringing in Boeser and Hague at those if they were accepted?


I'd definitely like those deals. Don't think the Blues picks will be high enough for the Canucks to consider it. But one of Barron and Iorio might move the needle if they really like one of them.
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I think St.Louis would rather hold onto Kostin. He's finally fitting in a bottom 6 role well and will be needed for a playoff run. Probably some decent prospects that would work instead. A 1st, Simon Robertsson and a 3rd would seem more fair.


Ducks should accept that.
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I'd definitely like those deals. Don't think the Blues picks will be high enough for the Canucks to consider it. But one of Barron and Iorio might move the needle if they really like one of them.


More of what I was going for with the two of them coming and also though maybe fit in on the right side in Anaheim as well
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13 févr. 2022 à 16 h 46
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I think caps probly say yes
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13 févr. 2022 à 16 h 48
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You're asking too much from the Blues, and they do not have the cap for this deal anyway.


Quoting: Aidian1
I think St.Louis would rather hold onto Kostin. He's finally fitting in a bottom 6 role well and will be needed for a playoff run. Probably some decent prospects that would work instead. A 1st, Simon Robertsson and a 3rd would seem more fair.



Closer, but still a bit too much. And again, they do not have the cap for it.
13 févr. 2022 à 16 h 50
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Blues don't have the cap to do that. We would need to find a team that takes scandella
13 févr. 2022 à 16 h 54
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You're asking too much from the Blues, and they do not have the cap for this deal anyway.





Closer, but still a bit too much. And again, they do not have the cap for it.


Lindholm seems like the only guy who may be available that could be the missing link for this defense. With retention and possibly finding a new home for Scandella it would work. I've also read somewhere about our real cap space by the deadline being able to fit him? Idk how true that is or how it works.
13 févr. 2022 à 17 h 6
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Lindholm seems like the only guy who may be available that could be the missing link for this defense. With retention and possibly finding a new home for Scandella it would work. I've also read somewhere about our real cap space by the deadline being able to fit him? Idk how true that is or how it works.


By the deadline? Maybe, but we have less than 100K of space when everyone is healthy. And it depends on whether we'd have to pay to ditch Scandyman. If so, that adds to the cost. However, all that aside. Lindholm at the deadline should be worth about a 1st and a 3rd, maybe a 1st and a B- prospect tops. Robertsson has some real promise (and we aren't exactly swimming in prospects at the moment). And this year is a buyer's market, so teams can;t be asking for a king's ransom.
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13 févr. 2022 à 17 h 18
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Army doesn’t like to do rentals as trade targets so I would say Lindholm is coming with an extension.

If that’s the case the Blues pay more and gladly accept
13 févr. 2022 à 17 h 34
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Avs decline easily.
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13 févr. 2022 à 17 h 47
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Yeah that's an easy no from the Avs.
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Easy and fast no from COL
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13 févr. 2022 à 19 h 5
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avs could be interested but they wouldnt move Barron for him. Manson just isnt good enough and wouldnt be in an spot on the avs roster to justify moving Barron for. Manson would the 4th/5th Dman especially if Byram is back
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13 févr. 2022 à 19 h 12
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avs could be interested but they wouldnt move Barron for him. Manson just isnt good enough and wouldnt be in an spot on the avs roster to justify moving Barron for. Manson would the 4th/5th Dman especially if Byram is back


What would a potential deal look like for you
13 févr. 2022 à 19 h 24
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What would a potential deal look like for you


The most I can see the avs doing is a 2nd and maybe a mid level prospect

Probably not a good trade partner for the ducks if they are looking Beyond that
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13 févr. 2022 à 21 h 38
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If Lindholm resigns with them, then yes. Otherwise no.
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14 mars 2022 à 23 h 15
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Avs decline easily.


At least we kept Helleson lol
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Easy and fast no from COL


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avs could be interested but they wouldnt move Barron for him. Manson just isnt good enough and wouldnt be in an spot on the avs roster to justify moving Barron for. Manson would the 4th/5th Dman especially if Byram is back

Interesting seeing some takes on this now that the Avs acquired Manson grin
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Interesting seeing some takes on this now that the Avs acquired Manson grin


I was pro Manson. I had some 2nd Murray and other asset proposals, 2nd Kaut proposals. So a 2nd and Helleson for 50% retained isnt far off
In this case it was a no moving Barron. And its still correct. Manson is a 4/5 when avs are fully healthy. I think ive been pretty consistent about him
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15 mars 2022 à 0 h 58
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Interesting seeing some takes on this now that the Avs acquired Manson grin


I am a big fan of Helleson but he isn’t at the same level as Barron m, and that’s evident by the trade.
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15 mars 2022 à 10 h 44
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I was pro Manson. I had some 2nd Murray and other asset proposals, 2nd Kaut proposals. So a 2nd and Helleson for 50% retained isnt far off
In this case it was a no moving Barron. And its still correct. Manson is a 4/5 when avs are fully healthy. I think ive been pretty consistent about him


Yeah I don't recall a prospect being included in trade proposals to another team as much as Helleson was included in proposals to Anaheim, whether it was for Rakell or Manson. That always seemed like a perfect fit for both teams.

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I am a big fan of Helleson but he isn’t at the same level as Barron m, and that’s evident by the trade.


I agree. It stings to give up Helleson but long-term the Avs needed to decide which one of Helleson and Barron to keep and Barron probably makes the most sense. Defensive Dmen are typically easier to find at the deadline and don't cost as much in free agency either (see Schenn $850k x 2 for example). Avs can also afford to do this given their depth on D.

What are your thoughts on potentially re-signing Manson? How high would you go in term/dollars?
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