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Quick Rebuild

Créé par: ChrisNapoleon
Date de création initiale: 9 févr. 2022
Publié: 9 févr. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York
Explications
Can't wait for everyone to say "no thanks" or "GM laughs and hangs up" like they are the GM lmao.

All in good fun here, hopefully Lou does something to correct this team in the off season.

Trades are in time order at the 2021-22 TDL & the 2022 off season
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Dufour, William3853 167 $
Lennox, Tristan3853 167 $
Liukas, Eetu3853 167 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Boeser, Brock67 875 000 $
Dobson, Noah43 500 000 $
Salo, Robin21 000 000 $
Dal Colle, Michael1775 000 $
Durandeau, Arnaud1775 000 $
Hutton, Grant1775 000 $
Koivula, Otto1775 000 $
Vande Sompel, Mitch1775 000 $
Wotherspoon, Parker1775 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Greene, Andy1775 000 $
Clutterbuck, Cal22 000 000 $
Copp, Andrew65 500 000 $
Järnkrok, Calle32 500 000 $
Campbell, Jack33 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYI
  1. 2022 1e round pick (EDM)
  2. 2023 3e round pick (EDM)
Koskinen
EDM
  1. Varlamov, Semyon
  2. Holmström, Simon
2.
NYI
  1. Boeser, Brock [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2023 6e round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Aho, Sebastian [Droits de RFA]
  3. Bellows, Kieffer [Droits de RFA]
  4. 2022 1e round pick (NYI)
  5. 2023 2e round pick (NYI)
3.
NYI
  1. Trudeau, William [Liste de réserve]
  2. 2023 3e round pick (MTL)
  3. 2023 5e round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
Rachats de contrats
  • Rick DiPietro: 0 $
Enfoui
  • Matt Martin: 375 000 $ (1 500 000 $)
  • Richard Pánik: 250 000 $ (1 375 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
Logo de EDM
Logo de COL
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
2023
Logo de NYI
Logo de EDM
Logo de MTL
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de MTL
Logo de NYI
Logo de VAN
Logo de NYI
2024
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
Logo de NYI
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $78 526 630 $245 796 $620 000 $3 973 370 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de NYI
Lee, Anders
7 000 000 $
AG, C
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de NYI
Barzal, Mathew
7 000 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Boeser, Brock
7 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Copp, Andrew
5 500 000 $
AG, AD, C
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de NYI
Nelson, Brock
6 000 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de NYI
Wahlstrom, Oliver
894 167 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de NYI
Beauvillier, Anthony
4 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de NYI
Räty, Aatu
836 667 $
C
RFA - 3
Logo de NYI
Palmieri, Kyle
5 000 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Järnkrok, Calle
2 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de NYI
Cizikas, Casey
2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de NYI
Clutterbuck, Cal
2 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de NYI
Pelech, Adam
5 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de NYI
Pulock, Ryan
6 150 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de NYI
Sorokin, Ilya
4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de NYI
Greene, Andy
775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA
Logo de NYI
Dobson, Noah
3 500 000 $
DD
RFA
Campbell, Jack
3 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de NYI
Salo, Robin
1 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de NYI
Mayfield, Scott
1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de NYI
Koivula, Otto
775 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 2

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9 févr. à 14 h 36
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Campbell will make more than that. Couldn’t see Vancouver doing that trade without a good prospect being involved
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Quoting: glarson17
Campbell will make more than that. Couldn’t see Vancouver doing that trade without a good prospect being involved


Islanders aren't trading Dufour
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Campbell will make more than that. Couldn’t see Vancouver doing that trade without a good prospect being involved


and what do you think Campbell would make? 5?
9 févr. à 14 h 39
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VAN decline.
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Quoting: ChrisNapoleon
and what do you think Campbell would make? 5?


Well if he isn’t resigning with Toronto I’d imagine there will be a bidding war for him. Not sure what he make but it’s certainly more than 3 mil.
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9 févr. à 14 h 49
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no cap space, doesn't fit our timeline at all
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MTL would pay way more for Pageau.

The real reason i'm writing a comment is because I love your avatar's logo. The Captain Highliner was the best design/color they had. Fight me.
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Campbell probably gets more than 3x3 on the open market, plus I don't think the Islanders need to devote that much cap to a backup goalie. Sorokin has shown that he can handle a heavy workload when he started the first 9 games of that long road trip this year - including both ends of a back-to-back where he had shutouts in both games. While Skarek might not be ready to be the backup, there are plenty of UFA guys who could be had for $2M or less this offseason - Halak, Greiss, Brian Elliott, David Rittich, Martin Jones - not sexy names, but guys that I feel confident giving 20-25 games without them completing ****ting the bed.
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Well if he isn’t resigning with Toronto I’d imagine there will be a bidding war for him. Not sure what he make but it’s certainly more than 3 mil.


Really depends on how the remainder of the season goes and the playoffs. Where he's at now, I would think someone offers $5mil, if he regains his early season form and goes on a run in the playoffs he could easily get 6+. Once again, based on how the rest of the season goes, I think the best comparison would be Markstrom a couple years ago who got $6x6.
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Not sure why you included Holmstrom in the EDM deal. Seems unnecessary
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MTL would pay way more for Pageau.

The real reason i'm writing a comment is because I love your avatar's logo. The Captain Highliner was the best design/color they had. Fight me.


Would they? They're in worse shape than the Islanders and don't have the cap space for his contract.
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Really depends on how the remainder of the season goes and the playoffs. Where he's at now, I would think someone offers $5mil, if he regains his early season form and goes on a run in the playoffs he could easily get 6+. Once again, based on how the rest of the season goes, I think the best comparison would be Markstrom a couple years ago who got $6x6.


Not to stray too far off topic, but the big question mark for me on Campbell is who's going to give him that money?

Your teams without a concrete goalie situatoin are Edmonton, SJ, Chicago, Arizona, Buffalo, Toronto, maybe PIttsburgh? Feels like you cross off Arizona and Buffalo because they're too far away to spend money on a 30 year old goalie. Chicago is really close to being in that group, but I would've said the same thing last year and they went out and got MAF. Edmonton is in a tough spot because Mike Smith's status for next year makes it hard to predict what they do - I could imagine them rolling Smith & Skinner so they don't have to put Skinner through waivers and risk losing him.

That leaves Toronto, San Jose, and Pittsburgh. Sharks fans can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see Adin Hill as a long term fit there, and they seem like a team that could retool for one last shot as opposed to a full teardown. Pittsburgh is losing DeSmith this offseason and I could see them signing Campbell since Jarry is UFA after 2023? And then, obviously Toronto. Feels like they might not have the most competition to try and re-sign Campbell, which I wonder if it keeps that AAV lower.
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Not to stray too far off topic, but the big question mark for me on Campbell is who's going to give him that money?

Your teams without a concrete goalie situatoin are Edmonton, SJ, Chicago, Arizona, Buffalo, Toronto, maybe PIttsburgh? Feels like you cross off Arizona and Buffalo because they're too far away to spend money on a 30 year old goalie. Chicago is really close to being in that group, but I would've said the same thing last year and they went out and got MAF. Edmonton is in a tough spot because Mike Smith's status for next year makes it hard to predict what they do - I could imagine them rolling Smith & Skinner so they don't have to put Skinner through waivers and risk losing him.

That leaves Toronto, San Jose, and Pittsburgh. Sharks fans can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see Adin Hill as a long term fit there, and they seem like a team that could retool for one last shot as opposed to a full teardown. Pittsburgh is losing DeSmith this offseason and I could see them signing Campbell since Jarry is UFA after 2023? And then, obviously Toronto. Feels like they might not have the most competition to try and re-sign Campbell, which I wonder if it keeps that AAV lower.


I think you could add Washington and Colorado to that list as well. 2 contending teams (though would have to move around money) that could be interested. Kuemper's stats look decent but he's still a UFA and could potentially walk. Washington's situation is also with Vanacek and Samsonov both showing potential but neither really have taken the reigns.
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MTL would pay way more for Pageau.

The real reason i'm writing a comment is because I love your avatar's logo. The Captain Highliner was the best design/color they had. Fight me.


someone that loves the fisherman....? Thats a new one lmao
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Not sure why you included Holmstrom in the EDM deal. Seems unnecessary


More to get a 3rd. Isles in need of draft picks imo
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
Campbell probably gets more than 3x3 on the open market, plus I don't think the Islanders need to devote that much cap to a backup goalie. Sorokin has shown that he can handle a heavy workload when he started the first 9 games of that long road trip this year - including both ends of a back-to-back where he had shutouts in both games. While Skarek might not be ready to be the backup, there are plenty of UFA guys who could be had for $2M or less this offseason - Halak, Greiss, Brian Elliott, David Rittich, Martin Jones - not sexy names, but guys that I feel confident giving 20-25 games without them completing ****ting the bed.


only chose him based on his record currently. agreed that Isles could go for cheaper though
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
Not to stray too far off topic, but the big question mark for me on Campbell is who's going to give him that money?

Your teams without a concrete goalie situatoin are Edmonton, SJ, Chicago, Arizona, Buffalo, Toronto, maybe PIttsburgh? Feels like you cross off Arizona and Buffalo because they're too far away to spend money on a 30 year old goalie. Chicago is really close to being in that group, but I would've said the same thing last year and they went out and got MAF. Edmonton is in a tough spot because Mike Smith's status for next year makes it hard to predict what they do - I could imagine them rolling Smith & Skinner so they don't have to put Skinner through waivers and risk losing him.

That leaves Toronto, San Jose, and Pittsburgh. Sharks fans can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see Adin Hill as a long term fit there, and they seem like a team that could retool for one last shot as opposed to a full teardown. Pittsburgh is losing DeSmith this offseason and I could see them signing Campbell since Jarry is UFA after 2023? And then, obviously Toronto. Feels like they might not have the most competition to try and re-sign Campbell, which I wonder if it keeps that AAV lower.


yeah maybe Lou goes for Hill, idk. He's honestly a mystery man sometimes bro. Maybe they sign either the previously mentioned Hill or DeSmith or Halak or Holtby... who knows...
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More to get a 3rd. Isles in need of draft picks imo


He's a former 1st rounder himself, only 20 years old, and playing really well in BPT this season? I'm not cutting ties for an extra 3rd personally. He's better than any crapshoot you're taking around there
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Quoting: ChrisNapoleon
yeah maybe Lou goes for Hill, idk. He's honestly a mystery man sometimes bro. Maybe they sign either the previously mentioned Hill or DeSmith or Halak or Holtby... who knows...


my heart says to bring back Thomas Greiss on a $1.5M-ish deal if he doesn't retire, but like you said Lou has his ways. He might even keep Varlamov going forward, which wouldn't be the worst outcome despite what everyone who's already bought him a plane ticket to Edmonton would say
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Quoting: joshelkin
He's a former 1st rounder himself, only 20 years old, and playing really well in BPT this season? I'm not cutting ties for an extra 3rd personally. He's better than any crapshoot you're taking around there


yeah thats true I suppose
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Quoting: rpain
I think you could add Washington and Colorado to that list as well. 2 contending teams (though would have to move around money) that could be interested. Kuemper's stats look decent but he's still a UFA and could potentially walk. Washington's situation is also with Vanacek and Samsonov both showing potential but neither really have taken the reigns.


Forgot about Kuemper being a UFA this year! Both him and Francouz are UFAs, and the Avs' prospects don't look quite ready for primetime. They've got a good amount of cap to play with next year if they want to go big on Campbell.

I almost included Washington, but every proposal I've seen recently with Samsonov being moved out always has a couple Caps fans saying he hasn't reached his potential and they're not moving him - yet it seems none of them are really happy with that tandem. They are the true wildcard in the goalie market this offseason because I could see a wide range of outcomes for them.

So maybe 5x6 is in the cards for Campbell after all.
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
my heart says to bring back Thomas Greiss on a $1.5M-ish deal if he doesn't retire, but like you said Lou has his ways. He might even keep Varlamov going forward, which wouldn't be the worst outcome despite what everyone who's already bought him a plane ticket to Edmonton would say


Greiss' numbers haven't been great with Detroit from when I last checked. I'd rather trade away Varly for draft picks & a goalie rental this season in order to get a veteran goalie this off season + some good stuff in the draft (because this draft is supposed to be the best since 2015 & we all know that class is the best of the best)
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someone that loves the fisherman....? Thats a new one lmao


Idk if there's many in Brooklyn, but real old fishermen are fkn badass and intimidating.

I am also a fan of the black Sabres Jersey with the Buffalo head who's making a comeback this year. 90's design had some W.... and a lot of L...
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Idk if there's many in Brooklyn, but real old fishermen are fkn badass and intimidating.

I am also a fan of the black Sabres Jersey with the Buffalo head who's making a comeback this year. 90's design had some W.... and a lot of L...


I am not from Brooklyn, but what I can say is that it's not same place my uncle grew up in. I like the Fisherman, but I don't love it. It was such a great idea, made at the worst time. Glad their bringing it back as a reverse retro.

I dont really like the black Sabres jerseys tbh. When I think of Buffalo I think Blue and Yellow. That whole team has been an L since 2013
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Quoting: Burnout
Would they? They're in worse shape than the Islanders and don't have the cap space for his contract.


He would be the perfect replacement for Danault that we miss awefully...

You might be right about the cap space. But it all very confused with Price's injury right now. Hugues would try to make space (too many wingers) for a 2 way center for sure.
 
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