What I think is realistic value but you can call me crazy

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Créé par: Ross_Johnston

Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 1 févr. 2022

Publié: 1 févr. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Trying to be as realistic as possible - hate it if you want.

Transactions

MTL

Pelletier, Jakob
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CGY)

Détails additionnels:

Pick is lottery protected. Assuming Calgary won't move Coronato and Montreal doesn't want Zary - meet in the middle. Steep price but retention has value.

CGY

Toffoli, Tyler (2 125 000 $ retained)
Wideman, Chris

Détails additionnels:

Full retention for 3 years of Toff. Salary is now 2,125,000 per.

MTL

Nemeth, Patrik
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (STL)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NYR)

Détails additionnels:

NYR clears cap.

NYR

Lehkonen, Artturi

Détails additionnels:

This is more of an example - it would take an overpayment to move Lehkonen. I'd be quite content if he played his entire career in Montreal.

MTL

Tippett, Owen
Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)

Détails additionnels:

Maybe I'm crazy, but I genuinely don't see Florida having room for Tippet next year.

FLA

Chiarot, Ben (1 750 000 $ retained)
Paquette, Cédric

MTL

Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)

COL

Perreault, Mathieu

MTL

Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NSH)

NSH

Kulak, Brett (925 000 $ retained)

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 1 958 333 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Tyler Toffoli: 2 125 000 $ (100%)
Ben Chiarot: 1 750 000 $ (100%)
Brett Kulak: 925 000 $ (100%)

Enfoui

Joel Armia: 2 275 000 $ (3 400 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
20	81 500 000 $	63 681 224 $	597 561 $	2 357 500 $	17 818 776 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hoffman, Mike 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG UFA - 3		Tippett, Owen 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG UFA - 1
Byron, Paul 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Pitlick, Rem 917 831 $917 831 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6
Pezzetta, Michael 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick 863 333 $863 333 $ (537 500 $$538K) C UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 6
Dauphin, Laurent 750 000 $750 000 $ C UFA - 1	Poehling, Ryan 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2
	Evans, Jake 750 000 $750 000 $ C UFA - 1	Caufield, Cole 880 833 $880 833 $ (300 000 $$300K) AG, AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
	Petry, Jeff 2 343 750 $2 343 750 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
	Niku, Sami 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Primeau, Cayden 880 833 $880 833 $ G RFA - 1
Romanov, Alexander 894 167 $894 167 $ (637 500 $$638K) DG RFA - 1	Brook, Josh 795 000 $795 000 $ (32 500 $$32K) DD UFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel 750 000 $750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Clague, Kale 761 250 $761 250 $ DG/DD RFA - 1
Nemeth, Patrik 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Drouin, Jonathan 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Weber, Shea 7 857 143 $7 857 143 $ DD UFA - 5
	Edmundson, Joel 875 000 $875 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 5
	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 4
	Allen, Jake 2 875 000 $2 875 000 $ G UFA - 2
	McNiven, Michael 750 000 $750 000 $ G UFA - 1
	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C UFA - 4

1 févr. 2022 à 13 h 42

michaelost

Fire Trotz

Rejoint: sept. 2020

Messages: 407

Mentions "j'aime": 51

first 3 are 100% overpays but are somewhat realistic. This deadline gonna have a ton of bidders so I could see a few slight overpayments.

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1 févr. 2022 à 13 h 56

Herms17

Pass it to Lucic

Rejoint: avr. 2018

Messages: 1,392

Mentions "j'aime": 467

really don't hate any of them honestly.
I think for the most part, all the teams are winners in these trades.

Ross_Johnston a aimé ceci.

1 févr. 2022 à 13 h 56

soooonk

Rejoint: déc. 2015

Messages: 410

Mentions "j'aime": 138

Not a bad deal, but Calgary won't need the retention and Pelletier +1st is a bit too steep so they should decline.

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1 févr. 2022 à 13 h 58

mokumboi

Rejoint: avr. 2019

Messages: 29,183

Mentions "j'aime": 11,314

The first three aren't realistic at all. But I feel like you already knew that.

1 févr. 2022 à 14 h 4

Xqb15a

Rejoint: août 2020

Messages: 11,380

Mentions "j'aime": 9,025

Quoting: Herms17

really don't hate any of them honestly.
I think for the most part, all the teams are winners in these trades.

Uh yeah no. These are total wins by MTL. Also COL has zero interest in Perrault.

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1 févr. 2022 à 14 h 10

Borocop

Au-revoir Dorion

Rejoint: mai 2019

Messages: 4,559

Mentions "j'aime": 3,003

toffoli 50% retained is probably around there, big time overvaluation on lehkonen imo, would probably get one of tippett or the first for chairot id be dumbfounded if zito gave up both

1 févr. 2022 à 14 h 34

Vermathex

Rejoint: mai 2019

Messages: 1,734

Mentions "j'aime": 586

from NYR point of view take away nemeth and a 2nd and if its just a second and a third for lehkonen i wouldn't be too upset.

Ross_Johnston a aimé ceci.

1 févr. 2022 à 15 h 46

Ross_Johnston

Démarrer sujet

No longer a Virgin

Rejoint: sept. 2020

Messages: 6,027

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Quoting: Borocop

toffoli 50% retained is probably around there, big time overvaluation on lehkonen imo, would probably get one of tippett or the first for chairot id be dumbfounded if zito gave up both

Yeah Lehkonen would have to be an overpayment to move, I was trying to make an example out of him.

1 févr. 2022 à 15 h 46

Ross_Johnston

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No longer a Virgin

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Messages: 6,027

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Quoting: mokumboi

The first three aren't realistic at all. But I feel like you already knew that.

You seem to be the odd man out here but, thanks for your constructive criticism.

1 févr. 2022 à 15 h 49

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Ross_Johnston

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No longer a Virgin

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Quoting: Herms17

really don't hate any of them honestly.
I think for the most part, all the teams are winners in these trades.

Thanks man it feels good to get some good feedback from an opposing fan for a big trade

1 févr. 2022 à 15 h 50

#11

Ross_Johnston

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No longer a Virgin

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Quoting: michaelost

first 3 are 100% overpays but are somewhat realistic. This deadline gonna have a ton of bidders so I could see a few slight overpayments.

Yeah, I took that into consideration. Do I think Toffoli is worth that? No. But TDL and FA day are the two days where GM's drastically overpay

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1 févr. 2022 à 16 h 3

#12

mokumboi

Rejoint: avr. 2019

Messages: 29,183

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Quoting: Marshallchapman9

You seem to be the odd man out here but, thanks for your constructive criticism.

Ehh what now? Literally every other poster who isn;t a Habs fan (that being Herms17, who you somehow think isn't a Habs fan) is calling some of these overpays or taking pieces out, and especially from the first three.

1 févr. 2022 à 17 h 16

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Ross_Johnston

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No longer a Virgin

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Quoting: mokumboi

Thanks man you too

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