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TDL moves and some possible off season options for Allvin

Créé par: Boldirev
Date de création initiale: 27 janv. 2022
Publié: 27 janv. 2022
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Explications
Horvat, Boeser and Miller won't all be moved, but at least one probably will and maybe even two. Maybe a bit optimistic in value, but that's what I would deem to be reasonably fair returns.
Transactions
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VAN
  1. 2022 3e round pick (CGY)
BOS
  1. Motte, Tyler
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VAN
  1. Lundkvist, Nils
  2. Skinner, Hunter
  3. 2022 1e round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Miller, J.T.
3.
VAN
  1. 2022 7e round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Chiasson, Alex
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VAN
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob
  2. Formenton, Alex
  3. 2022 2e round pick (TBL)
OTT
  1. Boeser, Brock
5.
VAN
  1. Niederbach, Theodor [Liste de réserve]
  2. Tuomisto, Antti [Liste de réserve]
  3. 2022 2e round pick (WSH)
  4. 2023 2e round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Horvat, Bo
6.
VAN
  1. 2023 5e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Schenn, Luke
Rachats de contrats
  • Braden Holtby: 500 000 $
  • Jake Virtanen: 50 000 $
Frais appliqués
  • Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $
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2481 500 000 $63 988 159 $648 780 $4 130 000 $17 511 841 $
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Garland, Conor
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Pettersson, Elias
7 350 000 $
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Podkolzin, Vasily
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Höglander, Nils
891 667 $
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Formenton, Alex
747 500 $
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Dowling, Justin
750 000 $
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Bailey, Justin
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Highmore, Matthew
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Lockwood, William
842 500 $
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Hughes, Quinn
7 850 000 $
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UFA - 6
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Myers, Tyler
6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Demko, Thatcher
5 000 000 $
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UFA - 5
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Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
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Lundkvist, Nils
925 000 $
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RFA - 3
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Halák, Jaroslav
1 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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Burroughs, Kyle
750 000 $
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Bernard-Docker, Jacob
925 000 $
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DiPietro, Michael
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Martin, Spencer
800 000 $
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UFA - 1
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Poolman, Tucker
2 500 000 $
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UFA - 4
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Ferland, Micheal
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Skinner, Hunter
850 833 $
DD
RFA - 3
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Hamonic, Travis
3 000 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 2
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Sutter, Brandon
1 125 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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Keeper, Brady
762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
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Brisebois, Guillaume
750 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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Hunt, Brad
800 000 $ (0 $)
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Dries, Sheldon
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27 janv. à 15 h 28
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I honestly can't see the Pens making any moves for depth forwards given how deep we are, but if they did, this would be fine I guess.
27 janv. à 15 h 30
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Don’t see a smallish D moving the needle fir Miller. The late 1st is overrated.

Bo isn’t moved for that.

I’d be ok with that Boeser deal.

Trading away 2 C’s is going for a rebuild. Canucks fans probably cry like we too often do already lol
27 janv. à 15 h 42
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Detroit and Vancouver aren't playoff teams so there is no point in making the trade at the TDL. I'm sorry but that is to much for 1 year of Horvat!
27 janv. à 15 h 58
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A Miller trade that doesn't include Schneider? Can it be? Drury would have to seriously consider it.
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27 janv. à 16 h 3
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Quoting: aedoran
Detroit and Vancouver aren't playoff teams so there is no point in making the trade at the TDL. I'm sorry but that is to much for 1 year of Horvat!


I think it would depend how we draft this year. If we get a high end centre then I don't see a point, if we don't this could be an alright deal. I don't hate it, Horvat is a good all around player.
27 janv. à 17 h 16
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Rangers would give up that kind of package I think for sure
27 janv. à 17 h 30
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Quoting: aedoran
Detroit and Vancouver aren't playoff teams so there is no point in making the trade at the TDL. I'm sorry but that is to much for 1 year of Horvat!


I may be wrong, but I believe Horvat hails from that area and was a Wings fan. Great fit for both him and Detroit, an easy extension.
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27 janv. à 17 h 33
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Quoting: Nighthawk
Don’t see a smallish D moving the needle fir Miller. The late 1st is overrated.

Bo isn’t moved for that.

I’d be ok with that Boeser deal.

Trading away 2 C’s is going for a rebuild. Canucks fans probably cry like we too often do already lol


These were merely hypothesized options. I did say that probably only one of BB, Horvat or Miller gets moved (maybe 2) and Rutherford has hinted that he believes a rebuild is unnecessary.

Lundkvist seems to be quite the talented young man and consistently ranked above Schneider by many publications. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is the RD coming back.
27 janv. à 17 h 35
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I honestly can't see the Pens making any moves for depth forwards given how deep we are, but if they did, this would be fine I guess.


You guys are deep? Then how come you haven't won a playoff round in several years now?
27 janv. à 17 h 37
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Quoting: aedoran
Detroit and Vancouver aren't playoff teams so there is no point in making the trade at the TDL. I'm sorry but that is to much for 1 year of Horvat!


Mmm, considering there isn't a 1st round pick or one of the Wings A-list prospects involved, I wouldn't call any Horvat deal that leaves out that criteria an overpayment
27 janv. à 18 h 33
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You guys are deep? Then how come you haven't won a playoff round in several years now?


What does this year's team have to do with last year's team? Nice try though.
27 janv. à 18 h 54
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What does this year's team have to do with last year's team? Nice try though.


Same core group of players
27 janv. à 19 h 6
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Same core group of players


So clearly you don't know what depth means then if that's your statement. Can't say I'm shocked, but hey, keep trolling me. It's fun.
27 janv. à 19 h 32
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So clearly you don't know what depth means then if that's your statement. Can't say I'm shocked, but hey, keep trolling me. It's fun.


It has never been my intention to troll you, we just have different opinions, nothing wrong with that. It's been my belief that you can't just change the depth and all of a sudden expect different results, the core players also need to take a step forward and learn from past defeats, and I'm getting kind of skeptical of that with Pittsburgh, despite the fact that Jarry has bounced back real well. I wouldn't call swapping out McCann and Tanev for McGinn and Heinen an upgrade, nor a downgrade
27 janv. à 20 h 4
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I may be wrong, but I believe Horvat hails from that area and was a Wings fan. Great fit for both him and Detroit, an easy extension.


He's from Ontario about an hour and a half from the border. You could be right about his favorite team I have no idea. But it would make sense Detroit is closer than Toronto. If the trade depended on him extending in Detroit then ok.
27 janv. à 20 h 13
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Mmm, considering there isn't a 1st round pick or one of the Wings A-list prospects involved, I wouldn't call any Horvat deal that leaves out that criteria an overpayment


I didn't say anything about an overpayment he only has 1yr left what if he doesn't want to play in Detroit? Then it's 4 assets for nothing. I did say in the response above if the trade depended on him extending in Detroit then ok.
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These were merely hypothesized options. I did say that probably only one of BB, Horvat or Miller gets moved (maybe 2) and Rutherford has hinted that he believes a rebuild is unnecessary.

Lundkvist seems to be quite the talented young man and consistently ranked above Schneider by many publications. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is the RD coming back.


Don’t get me wrong I like Lundkvist but we need size or Rathbone becomes expendable instead of groomed for offence.
28 janv. à 2 h 55
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I didn't say anything about an overpayment he only has 1yr left what if he doesn't want to play in Detroit? Then it's 4 assets for nothing. I did say in the response above if the trade depended on him extending in Detroit then ok.


I don't think Detroit is that far away from being a playoff contender, that's the only reason I'd consider Detroit a fit for Horvat in the first place, so getting an extension in place before he's UFA eligible should be fairly realistic in my book
 
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