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Conservative Deadline

Créé par: Bruinsbeatz
Équipe: 2021-22 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 26 janv. 2022
Publié: 26 janv. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Vaakanainen, Urho
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Vaakanainen has looked good but going forward I think zboril is the long term play to be in the bruins top 4
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  1. Rask, Tuukka
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Rask coming back was a mistake…. Idk what you do about him especially when swayman has been the bruins best goalie this year
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26 janv. 2022 à 11 h 31
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This may sound crazy, but I just wouldn’t trade Vaakanainen right now. Value wise, he’s just really tough to judge. He’s looked like a very good d man the last few weeks, but opposing GMs are going to try to downplay that.

The Tuukka take is stupid.
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26 janv. 2022 à 11 h 31
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This is a conservative take?

Why is NJ moving Zacha?
26 janv. 2022 à 11 h 32
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I think they get both Zboril and Urho in the lineup next year and move on from Reilly/Forbort.

Rask has a full NMC, only signed for this year. Swayman has .896 sv% at Prov since going down. Chill. Let’s see how that plays out next year. If Rask re-signs then they need to do something.
26 janv. 2022 à 11 h 33
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
This is a conservative take?

Why is NJ moving Zacha?


He’s pretty mediocre.
26 janv. 2022 à 11 h 34
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This may sound crazy, but I just wouldn’t trade Vaakanainen right now. Value wise, he’s just really tough to judge. He’s looked like a very good d man the last few weeks, but opposing GMs are going to try to downplay that.

The Tuukka take is stupid.


If rask keeps playing the way he is it’s not a stupid take i’m not one of the rask haters but he looks bad. Ullmark is not going anywhere with the NMC
26 janv. 2022 à 11 h 37
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He’s pretty mediocre.


And DeBrusk is a bit overrated.
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26 janv. 2022 à 11 h 41
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Vegas is selling and we're cap strapped to heck lol we'll do the trade but in exchange for a 4th or a 5th
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26 janv. 2022 à 11 h 47
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26 janv. 2022 à 11 h 54
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
This is a conservative take?

Why is NJ moving Zacha?


Is Debrusks QO way out of line for what he does? I 'm asking. This trade is one of the more fairer with the Urho add. I have seen Debrusk offered to be for stuff I see is way too much, what am I missing? Not poking, really want to know.
26 janv. 2022 à 11 h 54
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
And DeBrusk is a bit overrated.


You can say he’s mediocre, but honestly i feel like to the majority of this forum he’s underrated. We’re seeing kassian thrown for debrusk all the time. Debrusk has played quite well this month.
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26 janv. 2022 à 11 h 55
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If rask keeps playing the way he is it’s not a stupid take i’m not one of the rask haters but he looks bad. Ullmark is not going anywhere with the NMC


He didn’t play for how long because of the surgery? 8 months? Now after two really good starts and three bad ones, we’re passing judgment? After ten games if he still looks sluggish, i may start to worry. The routine needs to be built up. It will take a while, but he’s still one of the best goalies in NHL history.
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26 janv. 2022 à 12 h 1
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
He didn’t play for how long because of the surgery? 8 months? Now after two really good starts and three bad ones, we’re passing judgment? After ten games if he still looks sluggish, i may start to worry. The routine needs to be built up. It will take a while, but he’s still one of the best goalies in NHL history.


Agreed, my worry is if he continues to be sluggish because with a goalie like swayman in providence if rask is under performing I don’t know what the bruins options are, like are we stuck with rask and Ullmark no matter what?
26 janv. 2022 à 12 h 1
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You can say he’s mediocre, but honestly i feel like to the majority of this forum he’s underrated. We’re seeing kassian thrown for debrusk all the time. Debrusk has played quite well this month.


I didn't say he's mediocre. I think he's overrated. I think he's a defensively responsible 3rd line winger with so-so production, but the way I see him valued on here is crazy most of the time. Now, is this trade NOT fair value? Not saying that. I was genuinely questioning why NJ would be moving Zacha.
26 janv. 2022 à 12 h 3
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
And DeBrusk is a bit overrated.


On this site? Lol, just the opposite.

Zacha has been absolute dog 💩 the last 2 months so obviously he’s no good and won’t be. Give them John Moore and 3rd.

Now insert Debrusk in place of Zacha and that’s the take on this site. 🙄
26 janv. 2022 à 12 h 5
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Quoting: migsahoy
Vegas is selling and we're cap strapped to heck lol we'll do the trade but in exchange for a 4th or a 5th


I think a lot of teams will be interested in a guy like Mcnabb, cheap bottom pairing dman I could see him going for a second at least with Clifton you have a guy making 1 mil who can play on the bottom pair but if that’s the case I’d give up a pick if you really need the space
26 janv. 2022 à 12 h 6
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Just for some context and I'm not staying advanced stats are the above-all/be-all, but Zacha really outperforms DeBrusk in advanced metrics and DeBrusk plays for a much better team.

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26 janv. 2022 à 12 h 8
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Just for some context and I'm not staying advanced stats are the above-all/be-all, but Zacha really outperforms DeBrusk in advanced metrics and DeBrusk plays for a much better team.

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Yes and that’s why I added Vaak. Zacha is better than debrusk plus he can play center.
26 janv. 2022 à 12 h 10
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On this site? Lol, just the opposite.

Zacha has been absolute dog 💩 the last 2 months so obviously he’s no good and won’t be. Give them John Moore and 3rd.

Now insert Debrusk in place of Zacha and that’s the take on this site. 🙄


Good players have dips in performance, but Zacha and DeBrusk are both 3rd liners IMO and I don't think they're necessarily that far apart. As far as the last two months, the last five games Zacha has two points and DeBrusk has three.

These guys are different style of players, but as far as value, I don't think they're that far apart. Now, do either of them make a better stylistic fit for each of these teams? Maybe.
26 janv. 2022 à 12 h 11
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Yes and that’s why I added Vaak. Zacha is better than debrusk plus he can play center.


But I guess that's what I'm trying to surmise. I'm not trying to argue value so much as why would NJ make a somewhat lateral move?
26 janv. 2022 à 12 h 13
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But I guess that's what I'm trying to surmise. I'm not trying to argue value so much as why would NJ make a somewhat lateral move?


How is it lateral if you are adding a young defenseman who will play in your top 6
26 janv. 2022 à 12 h 14
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There's no point in being conservative, they'll end up participating in the 2nd round once again then.
26 janv. 2022 à 12 h 15
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Bruins aren't going to qualify Debrusk...and he would probably be priced as rental for many teams.
Devils aren't adding for this year.
Hard to imagine Devils consider this at all.
26 janv. 2022 à 12 h 18
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Good players have dips in performance, but Zacha and DeBrusk are both 3rd liners IMO and I don't think they're necessarily that far apart. As far as the last two months, the last five games Zacha has two points and DeBrusk has three.

These guys are different style of players, but as far as value, I don't think they're that far apart. Now, do either of them make a better stylistic fit for each of these teams? Maybe.


I agree they are of equsl value. However on this site Zacha is seen as asset while Debrusk as seen as a cap dump 🤷🏻‍♂️ That’s my point.
26 janv. 2022 à 12 h 18
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There's no point in being conservative, they'll end up participating in the 2nd round once again then.


I agree i think the bruins should go after Jt Miller or hertl but unless we’re trading Lysell and 1st rounders looks like we’re going to miss out on those guys
26 janv. 2022 à 12 h 20
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Bruins aren't going to qualify Debrusk...and he would probably be priced as rental for many teams.
Devils aren't adding for this year.
Hard to imagine Devils consider this at all.


Absolutley false. If Debrusk is still on the team after the deadline (unlikely) they will QO him.

From Boston perspective, the scenarios are:

No offer, he walks, lose him for nothing.

QO, he accepts. It’s 700k raise for 1 year to see if he bounces back.

QO, declines. They retain matching rights. Can sign him for whatever. Or trade his rights to someone now that the QO and 4.4 are off the table.

There is really only 1 losing scenario there. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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