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Small Shake-Ups at the Deadline

Créé par: LukaTAG
Date de création initiale: 25 janv. 2022
Publié: 25 janv. 2022
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
A big trade with Buffalo is the only one here. Shakes us up on D and adds a good player to that fourth line, along with making us deeper in case of injury with Hagg (I think he clears waivers?). Liljegren steps in for either Miller or Pysyk in around half the games, and the cost is worth it IMO.
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Pysyk, Mark
  2. Hägg, Robert
  3. Miller, Colin (1 937 500 $ retained)
  4. Girgensons, Zemgus (1 100 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Two solid underrated defensemen Buffalo doesn't need and Hagg and Zengus for some good depth.
BUF
  1. Ritchie, Nick
  2. Holl, Justin
  3. Dermott, Travis
  4. 2023 6e round pick (TOR)
  5. 2023 3e round pick (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Two cap dumps and a solid young D in Dermott who will get a lot of minutes along with a third and sixth-round pick.
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $80 695 616 $0 $400 000 $804 384 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Bunting, Michael
950 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 3
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Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
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Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
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Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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Mikheyev, Ilya
1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
1 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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Kase, Ondrej
1 250 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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Girgensons, Zemgus
1 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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Spezza, Jason
750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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Simmonds, Wayne
900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
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Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
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Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
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Pysyk, Mark
900 000 $
DD, AD
UFA - 1
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Mrázek, Petr
3 800 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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Miller, Colin
1 937 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Liljegren, Timothy
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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Scott, Ian
805 833 $ (0 $)
G
RFA - 1
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Clifford, Kyle
1 000 000 $ (0 $)
AG
UFA - 1
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Hägg, Robert
1 600 000 $ (475 000 $)
DG
UFA - 1

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25 janv. à 12 h 48
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Buffalo won't want to take any of those 3 players back because they will occupy spots on the depth chart next year.
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Absolutely no. This is ridiculous.
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25 janv. à 12 h 49
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Absolutely no. This is ridiculous.


Care to elaborate?
25 janv. à 12 h 49
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Buffalo won't want to take any of those 3 players back because they will occupy spots on the depth chart next year.


Is that not what they need? Players with term?
25 janv. à 12 h 51
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Sabres won't trade Girgensons, They will just trade Hagg for draft picks and will probably try and extend Pysyk.
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25 janv. à 12 h 51
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Care to elaborate?


could get better returns trading miller elsewhere, the only piece you think is good is dermott who would play behind dahlin, power, samuelsson, bryson, and then prospects like ryan johnson
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25 janv. à 12 h 51
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How does taking half the defence from a much worse defensive team make the Leafs better? Holl and Dermott are better than what's coming back. Engvall is having a terrific season and is hands down ELITE defensively. Fans just don't know anything
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25 janv. à 12 h 52
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Quoting: Sabreshockey53
Sabres won't trade Girgensons, They will just trade Hagg for draft picks and will probably try and extend Pysyk.


Fine, take Dermott & Pysyk off, swap Girgensons for Bjork? Hagg is going for draft picks in this case.
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25 janv. à 12 h 53
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Quoting: Sabresguy1987
could get better returns trading miller elsewhere, the only piece you think is good is dermott who would play behind dahlin, power, samuelsson, bryson, and then prospects like ryan johnson


You're not going to get more than a 3rd for Miller.
25 janv. à 12 h 53
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Quoting: LukaTAG
You're not going to get more than a 3rd for Miller.


you will if you attach two players with negative value such as holl and ritchie
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25 janv. à 12 h 54
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How does taking half the defence from a much worse defensive team make the Leafs better? Holl and Dermott are better than what's coming back. Engvall is having a terrific season and is hands down ELITE defensively. Fans just don't know anything


Holl is plain dog**** this season, Dermott is going back for value, Pysyk has amazing defensive stats this season, and Miller is a great, great bottom pair defenseman.
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you will if you attach two players with negative value such as holl and ritchie


Add a mid-round pick I guess? Toronto will find another defenseman before they pay a 2nd to get Miller and dump Ritchie and Holl.
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25 janv. à 12 h 56
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Buffalo easy pass, we could just get picks for these players instead of the players we don't need.
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25 janv. à 12 h 57
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Quoting: LukaTAG
Holl is plain dog**** this season, Dermott is going back for value, Pysyk has amazing defensive stats this season, and Miller is a great, great bottom pair defenseman.


Both Pysyk and Miller have far inferior stats to Holl. Across the board, both are negative, Holl is not. He had a tough stretch but has rebounded. This is simply not understanding hockey, the system TO plays or really anything. The grass is greener BS that all players from worse teams are better than Leaf players. It's silly
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25 janv. à 12 h 59
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Both Pysyk and Miller have far inferior stats to Holl. Across the board, both are negative, Holl is not. He had a tough stretch but has rebounded. This is simply not understanding hockey, the system TO plays or really anything. The grass is greener BS that all players from worse teams are better than Leaf players. It's silly


By what metrics??
25 janv. à 13 h 0
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you will if you attach two players with negative value such as holl and ritchie


Holl has negative value eh? Top 4, big right handed defenceman who unlike Miller and all the guys going to the Leafs here, has a track record of being good in a top 6 defensive team. Funny how being a top 4 guy on a better team makes someone negative. I guess the guy getting more money who has been thrown out by Boston, then Vegas and now is incredible because he's one of the best on a bad team. Yeah Miller is the one with value, not the better player, playing on a better team.
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25 janv. à 13 h 1
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By what metrics??


Corsi, Fenwick, shot share, expected goals against %, scoring chance %, high danger scoring chance %. You name it, Holl is significantly better than all the guys coming back. So is Dermott. And Engvall is downright ELITE defensively.
25 janv. à 13 h 5
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Is that not what they need? Players with term?


Not at all. They have prospects that are knocking on the door who are better than those 3. Bringing them in just takes away ice-time and opportunity for them. When their defense next year comprises of Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson, Jokiharju, and Bryson, they need to resign Pysyk and then replacement level players. Up front they have Asplund, Girgensons and Okposo to be 4th liners and Ritchie isn't worth having over prospects in their top-6. They will look to sell Miller, Hinostroza, Hagg, etc. for picks and prospects to continue adding to the rebuild. Throwing in replacement level or sub-replacement level vets is a bad idea.
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25 janv. à 13 h 6
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Corsi, Fenwick, shot share, expected goals against %, scoring chance %, high danger scoring chance %. You name it, Holl is significantly better than all the guys coming back. So is Dermott. And Engvall is downright ELITE defensively.


I'm now looking at Miller's and Holl's metrics on EH and Miller's looks better. Huh?
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25 janv. à 13 h 10
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@PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood @LuKaTAG

This is what your guys wrote.

https://theleafsnation.com/2021/12/31/the-maple-leafs-should-explore-the-rhd-rental-market-sooner-rather-than-later/
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25 janv. à 13 h 13
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I'm now looking at Miller's and Holl's metrics on EH and Miller's looks better. Huh?


https://www.tsn.ca/travis-yost-this-year-feels-different-for-toronto-maple-leafs-1.1749893?tsn-amp

Across the board Holl is better on Natural Statrick. Also fans writing stories on fan blogs doesn't matter much to me.
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25 janv. à 13 h 14
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Yea, Ritchie is a cap dump but don't know who the other is. Do you really think trading two NHLers from the Leafs for three Buffalo Dman make Leafs defence better.
25 janv. à 13 h 17
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Quoting: Chapee44
Buffalo won't want to take any of those 3 players back because they will occupy spots on the depth chart next year.


Depth on Sabres? Gee, the three guys are starters on the Leafs.
25 janv. à 13 h 21
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
https://www.tsn.ca/travis-yost-this-year-feels-different-for-toronto-maple-leafs-1.1749893?tsn-amp

Across the board Holl is better on Natural Statrick. Also fans writing stories on fan blogs doesn't matter much to me.


What does it matter what they write if the Evolving-Hockey metrics show that Miller is better than Holl this season. Don't act like you're not the same fan of the site on the internet.
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25 janv. à 13 h 56
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Rather just trade them for picks.
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