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Win-Win Trades for every team

Créé par: jazzhandz321
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 23 janv. 2022
Publié: 23 janv. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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TOR
  1. Bonino, Nick
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
SJS
  1. Anderson, Joey
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
4.
TOR
  1. Braun, Justin (900 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (PHI)
PHI
  1. Villeneuve, William
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
5.
TOR
  1. Domi, Max (2 650 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
CBJ
  1. Del Zotto, Michael
  2. Kokkonen, Mikko [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
6.
TOR
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $75 733 116 $0 $400 000 $5 766 884 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
950 000 $950 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
-1 325 000 $-1 325 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 025 000 $1 025 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 645 000 $1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
900 000 $900 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
834 167 $834 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
UFA - 2

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23 janv. 2022 à 17 h 44
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For the sharks I would take that in a second
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23 janv. 2022 à 17 h 45
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Why does a top 5 team need to change 3 forwards from its starting lineup trade away all its defensive depth? Seems like this is a great way to spend a lot of assets to make lateral and backwards moves.
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23 janv. 2022 à 17 h 51
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23 janv. 2022 à 17 h 51
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Why does a top 5 team need to change 3 forwards from its starting lineup trade away all its defensive depth? Seems like this is a great way to spend a lot of assets to make lateral and backwards moves.


Stetcher >> Holl and Braun >> Dermott. The fact of the matter is that there are not that many defensive defensemen available this deadline so upgrading the forwards with defensively responsible forwards could be a way around that.
23 janv. 2022 à 17 h 55
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Ottawa’s picking up more real money and a bigger cap hit switching MDZ for Ritchie. Not exactly what I’d call a win win.
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23 janv. 2022 à 17 h 55
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Quoting: jazzhandz321
Stetcher >> Holl and Braun >> Dermott. The fact of the matter is that there are not that many defensive defensemen available this deadline so upgrading the forwards with defensively responsible forwards could be a way around that.


So you have Stecher on LTIR,,,so the Leaf get Suter and Domi but the Leafs trade Dermot, Holl and Dermot and a 1st. Leafs are infinitely better just to keep their players and the picks
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23 janv. 2022 à 17 h 59
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If I’m Columbus I accept.
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23 janv. 2022 à 18 h 26
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So you have Stecher on LTIR,,,so the Leaf get Suter and Domi but the Leafs trade Dermot, Holl and Dermot and a 1st. Leafs are infinitely better just to keep their players and the picks


He's on LTIR for now but when he is healthy pair him with Muzzin and you got a pretty good second pair for ~7.3 million. Stetcher has shown time and time again that he has super solid underlying metrics with tough competition as well.
23 janv. 2022 à 18 h 28
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Ottawa’s picking up more real money and a bigger cap hit switching MDZ for Ritchie. Not exactly what I’d call a win win.


Well MDZ and Ritchie are kind of in the same boat a change of scenery could do them both a favour. Plus Ottawa really values those big bodied players. They can always flip Ritchie at the draft or wait til next trade deadline pump his usage up a bunch and flip him for ample value.
23 janv. 2022 à 18 h 31
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Not beneficial for Detroit
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Not beneficial for Detroit


You get Dermott who is cost controlled for another year, and you get Kerfoot who is an older player than can help the young guns that Detroit has. Suter > Kerfoot in value and an injured stetcher has less value than Dermott does.
23 janv. 2022 à 18 h 52
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You get Dermott who is cost controlled for another year, and you get Kerfoot who is an older player than can help the young guns that Detroit has. Suter > Kerfoot in value and an injured stetcher has less value than Dermott does.


Much rather have suter than kerfoot. Steacher will be healthy soon enough but if he's not Dermott isn't worth the difference. The trade doesn't help Detroit out at all. Yzerman is pretty particular about the trades he makes. There is nothing beneficial for Detroit here in my opinion. Dermotts cost controlled status might be worth more to a contender that's looking for more than just a rental.
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23 janv. 2022 à 18 h 57
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Quoting: jazzhandz321
Stetcher >> Holl and Braun >> Dermott. The fact of the matter is that there are not that many defensive defensemen available this deadline so upgrading the forwards with defensively responsible forwards could be a way around that.


Just for the sake of getting to the bottom line here: let's say you are right (you probably are) but I guess here's my point... how much better are Stecher and Braun?

I mean I can agree they may be slightly better than Dermott but is that enough to jump through hoops to add these players to only just be marginally better?


What would be more interesting is the Leafs adding a true upgrade on D and generally, that's going to be very difficult to do.
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23 janv. 2022 à 19 h 8
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Detroit has no interest in Kerfoot and are very happy with Suter. I'd be happy to trade Stecher for Dermott.
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23 janv. 2022 à 19 h 11
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Much rather have suter than kerfoot. Steacher will be healthy soon enough but if he's not Dermott isn't worth the difference. The trade doesn't help Detroit out at all. Yzerman is pretty particular about the trades he makes. There is nothing beneficial for Detroit here in my opinion. Dermotts cost controlled status might be worth more to a contender that's looking for more than just a rental.


Ah I see, Suter is a hell of a player for sure. Would a Dermott for Stetcher swap be something more up the Red Wings alley? Would Kerfoot + Dermott + a pick swap interest you guys? Just out here spit balling lol
23 janv. 2022 à 19 h 13
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Detroit has no interest in Kerfoot and are very happy with Suter. I'd be happy to trade Stecher for Dermott.


Sweet lets sign the paperwork then LOL, jk all jokes aside I'd do Dermott for Stetcher one for one. What would be needed to sweeten the pot for a Suter trade though? A pick swap? Well add a 2nd and you guys send us a 4th or something like that?
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You get Dermott who is cost controlled for another year, and you get Kerfoot who is an older player than can help the young guns that Detroit has. Suter > Kerfoot in value and an injured stetcher has less value than Dermott does.


Since they have put Bertuzzi on a line with Suter and Fabbri that line has been really well. It also puts Zadina with Larkin and Raymond to try to get him out of his slump.
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Just for the sake of getting to the bottom line here: let's say you are right (you probably are) but I guess here's my point... how much better are Stecher and Braun?

I mean I can agree they may be slightly better than Dermott but is that enough to jump through hoops to add these players to only just be marginally better?


What would be more interesting is the Leafs adding a true upgrade on D and generally, that's going to be very difficult to do.


Totally agree with the second half of your post, the defence market isn't as open this year in comparison to years past. So my logic was to make smaller improvements to the defence and improve the forward defence. Bonino and Suter (though Detriot fans really don't want to give him up which is understandable) are both plus defenders, and Braun and Stetcher are better than Holl and Dermott. I'd rather make moves like this than go for a Klingberg which wouldn't be a match stylistically for us, We already have two offensive d-men in Rielly and Sandin.
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23 janv. 2022 à 19 h 21
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If I’m Columbus I accept.


Would Columbus Do 1st + Ritchie + Kokonnen for Domi with 50% retained? If Ottawa doesn't want to swap bad contracts, we could just cut out the middle man.
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Stetcher >> Holl and Braun >> Dermott. The fact of the matter is that there are not that many defensive defensemen available this deadline so upgrading the forwards with defensively responsible forwards could be a way around that.


Stetcher is a bottom 6 defenceman on a much worse defensive team. He's a 7/8 defenceman on most teams, he is without question not an upgrade over Holl. This is nonsensical. Bonino is years past his expiration date and Suter is a big fish in a small pond, he's not better than Kerfoot. You've added more scoring in Domi, which isn't needed and made the defence worse and didn't improve the defence of the forwards. This is all just lateral moves.
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Would Columbus Do 1st + Ritchie + Kokonnen for Domi with 50% retained? If Ottawa doesn't want to swap bad contracts, we could just cut out the middle man.


Probably not. We don’t need forwards. We need defenseman and we liked del Zotto.
23 janv. 2022 à 19 h 44
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Stetcher is a bottom 6 defenceman on a much worse defensive team. He's a 7/8 defenceman on most teams, he is without question not an upgrade over Holl. This is nonsensical. Bonino is years past his expiration date and Suter is a big fish in a small pond, he's not better than Kerfoot. You've added more scoring in Domi, which isn't needed and made the defence worse and didn't improve the defence of the forwards. This is all just lateral moves.


Could you provide metrics to support the fact that Stetcher is worse than both Holl and Dermott? From everything I've read he's the real deal, very much like a Matt Grzelcyk 2.0
23 janv. 2022 à 19 h 58
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Could you provide metrics to support the fact that Stetcher is worse than both Holl and Dermott? From everything I've read he's the real deal, very much like a Matt Grzelcyk 2.0


Literally every metric from Corsi to Scoring chance%, Stetcher is below 40%. That's garbage. Even worse than I expected. Dermott and Holl above ,50% across the board.
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23 janv. 2022 à 20 h 11
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Totally agree with the second half of your post, the defence market isn't as open this year in comparison to years past. So my logic was to make smaller improvements to the defence and improve the forward defence. Bonino and Suter (though Detriot fans really don't want to give him up which is understandable) are both plus defenders, and Braun and Stetcher are better than Holl and Dermott. I'd rather make moves like this than go for a Klingberg which wouldn't be a match stylistically for us, We already have two offensive d-men in Rielly and Sandin.


I also don't think Klingberg is a good fit for the Leafs. These marginal upgrades are not going to make or break a playoff run for this team.

This team, the forwards especially have to learn that when you have a 2-3 goal lead in the middle of the second period, it's time to lock it down instead of trying to get the next goal.

This is the only real way of having playoff success.
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