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Créé par: DucharmetheDOMinator

Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 18 janv. 2022

Publié: 23 janv. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Who would want out in terms of a rebuild? Players 25 and under are not asked. First it is if player would want out. 2nd reason. 3rd verdict
Hoffman: Yes. Signed in MTL to win not to rebuild. Moved
Suzuki: Not asked. Keep
Anderson: No. Loves montreal. Keep
Toffoli: No. Wants to be leader. Trade anyway.
Dvorak: Not asked. Traded eventually
Gallagher. Yes. Wants to win. Traded eventually
Poehling: Not asked. Traded
Caufield: Not asked. Traded eventually
Drouin: Yes. Wants smaller market. Traded
Evans. Not asked. Keep
Lehkonen. No. Can sign UFA soon. Traded
Armia. Yes. Wants contender. Traded eventually
Pitlick: No. Brother got drafted by mtl. Trade eventually
Byron: No. Loves MTL Wants to be leader. Keep
Perrault. Yes. UFA rental. Traded
Chiarot: Yes. UFA rental. Traded
Savard. No. Wants to play in hometown. Keep
Petry. Yes. Wants to contend. traded eventually
Edmundson. No. Wants to mentor young LD. Traded eventually
Kulak. Yes. UFA rental. Trade
Wideman. YES. UFA Rental.trade
Romanov. Not asked. Keep
Clague. Not asked. Keep
Niku. Yes. Lots of LD prospects. Traded eventually
Price. Wants to win. Traded
Allen. No, wants to mentor young goalies. Traded
Montembeault. Yes. Primeau in pipeline. Traded eventually

Transactions

MTL

Bokk, Dominik
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CAR)

CAR

Hoffman, Mike

MTL

Boltmann, Jake [Liste de réserve]
Pelletier, Jakob
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CGY)

CGY

Toffoli, Tyler

MTL

Hayton, Barrett

ARI

Poehling, Ryan
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (MTL)

MTL

Pärssinen, Juuso
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NSH)

NSH

Drouin, Jonathan

MTL

Kravtsov, Vitali
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NYR)

Détails additionnels:

3rd is Conditional. If Kravtsov signs with the habs next year its a 4th

NYR

Lehkonen, Artturi

MTL

Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (BOS)

BOS

Perreault, Mathieu

MTL

Chytil, Filip
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)

Détails additionnels:

No more room in NY for Chytil

NYR

Chiarot, Ben
Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (TBL)

MTL

Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (NYI)

NYI

Kulak, Brett

MTL

Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (LAK)

LAK

Wideman, Chris

10.

MTL

Gustafsson, David
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (WPG)

WPG

Allen, Jake

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 1 958 333 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	81 500 000 $	54 461 225 $	597 561 $	4 475 000 $	27 038 775 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C UFA - 4	Suzuki, Nick 863 333 $863 333 $ (537 500 $$538K) C UFA - 1	Caufield, Cole 880 833 $880 833 $ (300 000 $$300K) AG, AD UFA - 2
Kravtsov, Vitali 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD RFA - 1	Hayton, Barrett 894 167 $894 167 $ (2 150 000 $$2M) C, AG RFA - 1	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 6
	Chytil, Filip 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6
Byron, Paul 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Evans, Jake 750 000 $750 000 $ C UFA - 1	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4
Pezzetta, Michael 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Edmundson, Joel 875 000 $875 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff 2 343 750 $2 343 750 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 5
Romanov, Alexander 894 167 $894 167 $ (637 500 $$638K) DG RFA - 1	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Montembeault, Samuel 750 000 $750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Clague, Kale 761 250 $761 250 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Niku, Sami 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Pitlick, Rem 917 831 $917 831 $ AG, AD UFA - 1		Weber, Shea 7 857 143 $7 857 143 $ DD UFA - 5

Équipe de réserve
McNiven, Michael 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) G UFA - 1
Schueneman, Corey 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DG/DD UFA - 1
Vejdemo, Lukas 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C, AG, AD UFA - 1
Paquette, Cédric 950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C, AG, AD UFA - 1

23 janv. 2022 à 15 h 15

BatVader

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Jets decline

These trades are garbage for every team that’s not the Habs.

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23 janv. 2022 à 15 h 17

DirtyDangle

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you need to lower expectations for a trade.

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23 janv. 2022 à 15 h 22

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Petry is now untradeable. 4 more years of 6+ million for a 34 year old who's clearly hitting the decline. No one has that space to waste.

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23 janv. 2022 à 15 h 23

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I don’t know Pärssinen, but I like the idea for Nashville. Pretty realistic if Pärssinen is a B-C prospect.

23 janv. 2022 à 15 h 47

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I'll be surprised if a fourth-line forward like Perreault or a bottom-pairing defenseman like Kulak or Wideman gets two draft picks, or even one above a fifth-rounder.

By the way, you can't make a draft pick conditional upon a player's re-signing any more.

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23 janv. 2022 à 15 h 56

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Whats that Lehk trade? NY does not do that

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23 janv. 2022 à 16 h 4

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Habs fans are so delusional and it's embarrassing.

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23 janv. 2022 à 16 h 14

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Peltier wont be traded, hes worth more than toffoli

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23 janv. 2022 à 16 h 17

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Quoting: Fire_Brad_Treliving

Peltier wont be traded, hes worth more than toffoli

Yeah a point per game AHLer is worth more than a point per game NHLer who is on an amazing contract, you're just being biased and delusional

23 janv. 2022 à 16 h 17

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I’m not sure I see Drouin being a fit for Hynes’ system.

23 janv. 2022 à 16 h 18

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Quoting: villenash

I’m not sure I see Drouin being a fit for Hynes’ system.

OK, but do you like the deal?

23 janv. 2022 à 16 h 22

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

OK, but do you like the deal?

Probably fine value, I just think the team needs to change.

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23 janv. 2022 à 16 h 22

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

Yeah a point per game AHLer is worth more than a point per game NHLer who is on an amazing contract, you're just being biased and delusional

He's our best prospect, its his first year in the AHL. Hes got way more potential than him

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23 janv. 2022 à 16 h 22

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Quoting: Fire_Brad_Treliving

He's our best prospect, its his first year in the AHL. Hes got way more potential than him

No way he does

23 janv. 2022 à 16 h 23

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

No way he does

100% Even if Montreal offered this the flames gm will easily reject

23 janv. 2022 à 16 h 28

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Quoting: Fire_Brad_Treliving

100% Even if Montreal offered this the flames gm will easily reject

Doubt it, but let's agree to disagree, let's see what toffoli gets at the deadline

23 janv. 2022 à 17 h 33

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How about Chiarot and Lekhonen for Chytil/Kravtsov and a 2022 first

23 janv. 2022 à 17 h 52

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I don't say it often, but all of these trades are good.

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23 janv. 2022 à 18 h 14

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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS

I don't say it often, but all of these trades are good.

Yeah, they are good. Only for the Habs though.

Canes want nothing to do with a one trick pony in Hoffman, especially for that price. While he could help our PP, he would be useless everywhere else on the ice. Toffoli will get a first, but he won’t get a first, top prospect, and another prospect. Calgary easily passes. Yotes aren’t trading Hayton just yet. Drouin won’t fit Nashville’s playing style. Rangers pass on both trades. Wideman and Kulak don’t get that much. At most they only get a 5th each, nothing more, but probably less. Allen likely gets traded, but I don’t think that it would be to Winnipeg. A team like Colorado or Carolina would be more likely to occur than to Winnipeg, albeit Allen might be really good backing up Hellebuyck.

Offer for Allen:
Canes: Allen
Habs: Raanta and 4th round pick

23 janv. 2022 à 18 h 19

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Quoting: evelutions2

I disagree with Hoffman being useless everywhere else, he's definitely not good defensively, but in a system where players can play to their strengths (like Carolina) I think he would strive. It might not make sense to Carolina in particular, but he's a very useful player. You're saying those players won't fit on those particular, teams, but I think the trade values are ideal for those players, just wrong teams.

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23 janv. 2022 à 18 h 46

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Quoting: Marchy6363

How about Chiarot and Lekhonen for Chytil/Kravtsov and a 2022 first

No, lehky should be traded for kravtsov, and a 3rd/ 4th. Chiarot and a 3rd should be traded for a 1st, and chytil. In theory you could cancel the 3rds, so the trade would be: Chiarot, lehkonen in exchange for kravtsov, chytil, 1st

23 janv. 2022 à 18 h 51

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Quoting: evelutions2

Hans reject. How about allen for 3rd, ville koivenen. We have no need for raanta you could trade him to another team

23 janv. 2022 à 18 h 52

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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS

I don't say it often, but all of these trades are good.

You mean the values are about correct, right?

23 janv. 2022 à 18 h 58

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

You mean the values are about correct, right?

Not to those particular teams, but in terms of value, yes.

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23 janv. 2022 à 20 h 25

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

Hans reject. How about allen for 3rd, ville koivenen. We have no need for raanta you could trade him to another team

Personally, I would pass on that counteroffer. I have always been high on Koivunen ever since he was drafted, and I really don’t see him being traded. The purpose of the deal I made was essentially a goalie swap. I could see it being a deadline move, and Carolina would have to add the pick, but I can’t imagine that the trade I proposed was that far off in terms of value. Allen has not been that good this year, and Raanta has had his share of struggles as well, but the gap between Raanta and Allen is not that much. Other potential swaps would include Halak, Holtby, and maybe even Lindgren or Husso.

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