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Severson

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Date de création initiale: 22 janv. 2022
Publié: 22 janv. 2022
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
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TOR
  1. Severson, Damon (1 600 000 $ retained)
  2. Vilén, Topias [Liste de réserve]
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  1. Ritchie, Nick
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. Holl, Justin
  4. Abruzzese, Nick [Liste de réserve]
  5. Scott, Ian
  6. 2024 2e round pick (TOR)
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  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
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Severson, Damon
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Liljegren, Timothy
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Anderson, Joey
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22 janv. à 20 h 36
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This should at the very least be close. Devil fans will say it's not close but they want 3 1st for him.
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22 janv. à 20 h 47
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You do realize quantity ≠ quality, right? Plus it would cost at least a first to dump Ritchie, so Devils don’t consider that. Take out Ritchie and it’s close, but still not enough.
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22 janv. à 20 h 50
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You do realize quantity ≠ quality, right? Plus it would cost at least a first to dump Ritchie, so Devils don’t consider that. Take out Ritchie and it’s close, but still not enough.


It's a bad trade. But Ritchie definitely won't cost a 1st to dump.
22 janv. à 20 h 55
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You do realize quantity ≠ quality, right? Plus it would cost at least a first to dump Ritchie, so Devils don’t consider that. Take out Ritchie and it’s close, but still not enough.


Just straight up no. It's one more year of a guy who can play in an NHL lineup (pretty serviceably if used properly) making $2.5m. It cost a 1st to dump $6.25 mil in the form of a to be bought out Marleau.
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22 janv. à 20 h 55
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I'd pass. Don't need another small skilled forward like Robertson. Rather keep Severson.
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22 janv. à 21 h 0
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This should at the very least be close. Devil fans will say it's not close but they want 3 1st for him.


They don’t want that much. in this trade they are being asked to retain, take on Holl and Ritchie who have multiple years in their contracts, and are getting a 2nd in 3 drafts. I cant see them accepting that deal without a 1st.
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22 janv. à 21 h 10
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Sorry Trickster but this isn't close.
22 janv. à 21 h 28
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I appreciate the resilience, Leafs fans, but these offers are not enough to separate Severson from New Jersey.
Not looking for Ritchie or Holl.
I dont think a 1st or 2nd pick would be the hangup as much as the prospects included.
Toronto isn't a fit for a trade here.
22 janv. à 21 h 40
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Quoting: glarson17
They don’t want that much. in this trade they are being asked to retain, take on Holl and Ritchie who have multiple years in their contracts, and are getting a 2nd in 3 drafts. I cant see them accepting that deal without a 1st.


I agree but there is one Devil fan specifically who wants insane returns. He wants Amirov, Robertson, Liljegren and a 1st. It's just ridiculous
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22 janv. à 21 h 40
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I appreciate the resilience, Leafs fans, but these offers are not enough to separate Severson from New Jersey.
Not looking for Ritchie or Holl.
I dont think a 1st or 2nd pick would be the hangup as much as the prospects included.
Toronto isn't a fit for a trade here.


Your ridiculous expectations are your hangup
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22 janv. à 21 h 41
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I agree but there is one Devil fan specifically who wants insane returns. He wants Amirov, Robertson, Liljegren and a 1st. It's just ridiculous


Yeah that’s a little much
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22 janv. à 21 h 44
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Yeah that’s a little much


Yip
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22 janv. à 22 h 9
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Devils say no easily. It’s a bunch of quantity coming from Toronto that literally no one wants . Those players are not attractive
23 janv. à 0 h 11
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I agree but there is one Devil fan specifically who wants insane returns. He wants Amirov, Robertson, Liljegren and a 1st. It's just ridiculous


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Yeah that’s a little much


Who said that?
23 janv. à 0 h 14
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Who said that?


The guy who thinks Nylander is fair in a one for one.
23 janv. à 14 h 42
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First off I'm glad to see you back making acgms.

Second, I think this trade is close it just needs a touch more to get it across the finish line. I think the Muzzin deal is a good comp, a 1st and 2 b prospects that being said if the devils are retaining one of the prospects have too be upgraded to a A prospect (which you did by including Robertson). So Robertson, Abruzzese and a 1st is a good proposal but Ritchie is a cap dump at this point which would likley cost a 2nd too move. Personally, I think the leafs hang onto him until the offseason and hope he has a strong playoffs at which point he can be moved for a late pick like a 5th-7th or just buy him out, plus we've accured capspace for the deadline so we don't need too move him rn.

Also, adding Holl gives them a d who can play the minutes Severson is/was, most on here will try to say he's a cap dump but he's a serviceable nhl rhd.

All in all this is good for both sides just either add a first or change the 2nd to a 1st and take out Ritchie.

Just my opinion tho.
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First off I'm glad to see you back making acgms.

Second, I think this trade is close it just needs a touch more to get it across the finish line. I think the Muzzin deal is a good comp, a 1st and 2 b prospects that being said if the devils are retaining one of the prospects have too be upgraded to a A prospect (which you did by including Robertson). So Robertson, Abruzzese and a 1st is a good proposal but Ritchie is a cap dump at this point which would likley cost a 2nd too move. Personally, I think the leafs hang onto him until the offseason and hope he has a strong playoffs at which point he can be moved for a late pick like a 5th-7th or just buy him out, plus we've accured capspace for the deadline so we don't need too move him rn.

Also, adding Holl gives them a d who can play the minutes Severson is/was, most on here will try to say he's a cap dump but he's a serviceable nhl rhd.

All in all this is good for both sides just either add a first or change the 2nd to a 1st and take out Ritchie.

Just my opinion tho.


Good to hear from you
Hope you have been okay.

It's hard to make ACGMs, gets too toxic and very little constructive feedback.

I think this very close in value with the cap dumps, remember that Ritchie has only 1 year remaining and you could be right about him showing his value in the playoffs but we need to upgrade our 2nd pair RD.

I dont want Manson instead.

I want your opinon on Mzraek for next season
Does he stay? Trade him?
If trade him, who do you want add?
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25 janv. à 13 h 16
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Good to hear from you
Hope you have been okay.

It's hard to make ACGMs, gets too toxic and very little constructive feedback.

I think this very close in value with the cap dumps, remember that Ritchie has only 1 year remaining and you could be right about him showing his value in the playoffs but we need to upgrade our 2nd pair RD.

I dont want Manson instead.

I want your opinon on Mzraek for next season
Does he stay? Trade him?
If trade him, who do you want add?


I'm still kicking lol, how have you been?

I couldn't agree more. I want to comment on acgms but it's not worth it anymore, that being said, if anyone can get me out of retirement it's definitely you n @onex lol.

I agree we need to upgrade our rhd and if jersey would take this I'd be all over it. I also like braun as a low cost asdition and I think klingberg would be a good fit with muzzin and in our system even tho his numbers haven't been good the last few years plus he's a proven playoff performer. I think severson is a happy medium between the 2 tho.

I wouldn't mind manson but the ducks are in the the playoff picture rn and I wouldn't be comfortable giving up a 1st + for him.

I think dubas finds a way too keep Campbell pert of which will be attaching assets to move Marazek (part of why I don't want to give up a ton of assets at the deadline). In terms of who would I bring in to replace him, well there's going to be a few decent options but at the top of my list is Halak I think 1yr 1.5 or 2yrs @1 would get it done.

Also, I think the Lehner deal is a good comp for Campbell's next contract 5×5.

What do you guys think?
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I'm still kicking lol, how have you been?

I couldn't agree more. I want to comment on acgms but it's not worth it anymore, that being said, if anyone can get me out of retirement it's definitely you n onex lol.

I agree we need to upgrade our rhd and if jersey would take this I'd be all over it. I also like braun as a low cost asdition and I think klingberg would be a good fit with muzzin and in our system even tho his numbers haven't been good the last few years plus he's a proven playoff performer. I think severson is a happy medium between the 2 tho.

I wouldn't mind manson but the ducks are in the the playoff picture rn and I wouldn't be comfortable giving up a 1st + for him.

I think dubas finds a way too keep Campbell pert of which will be attaching assets to move Marazek (part of why I don't want to give up a ton of assets at the deadline). In terms of who would I bring in to replace him, well there's going to be a few decent options but at the top of my list is Halak I think 1yr 1.5 or 2yrs 1 would get it done.

Also, I think the Lehner deal is a good comp for Campbell's next contract 5×5.

What do you guys think?


Good as can be.

Braun has started to slip IMO and getting too old.
If hes better than Holl and Dermott it's not by much... price has to be right to add.

I still make alot ACGMs, just dont post them.


I had the following Dallas trade, tell me what you think

Holtby
Klingberg
Kiviranta

For

Ritchie
Robertson
Holl
Mzraek
Rights to Abrussive
Rights to Miller
1st rounder
Conditional 2nd rounder on Leafs making it to conference finals



I think Campbell will resigned before he hits UFA, long term deal with 4 to 5 million AAV but the contract will be front loaded like Tavares contract.

I think Mzraek wont be hard to move, teams will need a goalie.

I don't want Manson.
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25 janv. à 14 h 14
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Good as can be.

Braun has started to slip IMO and getting too old.
If hes better than Holl and Dermott it's not by much... price has to be right to add.

I still make alot ACGMs, just dont post them.


I had the following Dallas trade, tell me what you think

Holtby
Klingberg
Kiviranta

For

Ritchie
Robertson
Holl
Mzraek
Rights to Abrussive
Rights to Miller
1st rounder
Conditional 2nd rounder on Leafs making it to conference finals



I think Campbell will resigned before he hits UFA, long term deal with 4 to 5 million AAV but the contract will be front loaded like Tavares contract.

I think Mzraek wont be hard to move, teams will need a goalie.

I don't want Manson.


The most I'd pay for braun is a 3rd at 50% retained, I'd be willing to add a prospect or a late round pick to get brassard in the deal but I certainly wouldn't break the bank for either of them. Also, getting away from the sinking ship that is philly could/would probably do wonders for his/their game, especially getting a chance to compete in meaningful games.

I hear ya it's not worth it. I've had a few myself but didn't post them because there's really no point.

Does the 2nd turn into a 3rd if we don't make it to the conference finals or do they not get a pick if we don't make it that far?

Honestly, at first I didn't think they'd have interest in marazek but the more I thought about it the more it made sense.

I also think ritchie would be a really good fit in dallas' system much like klingberg in ours.

Obviously reuniting the Robertson brothers would be a major selling point to Dallas.

Holl gives them a decent replacement in terms of TOI and he kills penalties plus I also think holl would be a good fit in their system.

As well as getting abruzzi miller and a 1st + possibly a 2nd! I can't see how Dallas doesn't make this trade unless kiviranta is a deal breaker for them? I don'tknow anything about him.

I think this deal works for both sides although it's alot to give up for the buds we're getting exactly what we need.

Agreed on Campbell.

I guess it will depend on whether or not he can stay healthy and play good down the stretch, if not I think we have to moove assets with him to unload his contract.
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The most I'd pay for braun is a 3rd at 50% retained, I'd be willing to add a prospect or a late round pick to get brassard in the deal but I certainly wouldn't break the bank for either of them. Also, getting away from the sinking ship that is philly could/would probably do wonders for his/their game, especially getting a chance to compete in meaningful games.

I hear ya it's not worth it. I've had a few myself but didn't post them because there's really no point.

Does the 2nd turn into a 3rd if we don't make it to the conference finals or do they not get a pick if we don't make it that far?

Honestly, at first I didn't think they'd have interest in marazek but the more I thought about it the more it made sense.

I also think ritchie would be a really good fit in dallas' system much like klingberg in ours.

Obviously reuniting the Robertson brothers would be a major selling point to Dallas.

Holl gives them a decent replacement in terms of TOI and he kills penalties plus I also think holl would be a good fit in their system.

As well as getting abruzzi miller and a 1st + possibly a 2nd! I can't see how Dallas doesn't make this trade unless kiviranta is a deal breaker for them? I don'tknow anything about him.

I think this deal works for both sides although it's alot to give up for the buds we're getting exactly what we need.

Agreed on Campbell.

I guess it will depend on whether or not he can stay healthy and play good down the stretch, if not I think we have to moove assets with him to unload his contract.


No pick at all if we dont make conference finals, has to results only based.

I would rather get Severson, his additional year is the reason why.

I cant see Kiviranta being a sticking point.
And with Bishop forced into retirement, Khudobin fallen off the wagon... makes too much sense for Mzraek.

Who do you want for a backup next season?
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I think adding Severson is a better idea than Braun and Manson. I don't know what to make of Chycrun(spelling?) because he's on a bad team and I wonder how he would look on a good team. Everyone on Capfriendly just automatically assumes that he will be great on a good team but I have my doubts.

Also gotta be careful of trading Holl. He is probably the depth the team needs for playoffs success.

Thoughts @Sign_em_up000000 ?
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I think adding Severson is a better idea than Braun and Manson. I don't know what to make of Chycrun(spelling?) because he's on a bad team and I wonder how he would look on a good team. Everyone on Capfriendly just automatically assumes that he will be great on a good team but I have my doubts.

Also gotta be careful of trading Holl. He is probably the depth the team needs for playoffs success.

Thoughts Sign_em_up000000 ?


Quoting: oneX
I think adding Severson is a better idea than Braun and Manson. I don't know what to make of Chycrun(spelling?) because he's on a bad team and I wonder how he would look on a good team. Everyone on Capfriendly just automatically assumes that he will be great on a good team but I have my doubts.

Also gotta be careful of trading Holl. He is probably the depth the team needs for playoffs success.

Thoughts Sign_em_up000000 ?


Trading Holl has to come with upgrade on him to me, does not have to be direct trade
Braun is not to me.

Klingberg would be but I'd rather add Severson.
Chychrun is having a bad year after playing elite for 3 seasons, he could be worth it.

I feel added Chychrun would want me to trade Muzzin but that does seem like the right move.
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26 janv. à 17 h 7
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Trading Holl has to come with upgrade on him to me, does not have to be direct trade
Braun is not to me.

Klingberg would be but I'd rather add Severson.
Chychrun is having a bad year after playing elite for 3 seasons, he could be worth it.

I feel added Chychrun would want me to trade Muzzin but that does seem like the right move.


Well... I want you to think of what happens in the playoffs if/when there's an injury. What is your course of action? Holl has already played in the top 4..so there's that.

You okay with Sandin or Dermott having to move up? I'm not.
We've just seen the Sandin/Liljegren experiment in the top 4 while Muzzin and Holl are out and it's not pretty. It will get ugly with those options in the playoffs.
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Well... I want you to think of what happens in the playoffs if/when there's an injury. What is your course of action? Holl has already played in the top 4..so there's that.

You okay with Sandin or Dermott having to move up? I'm not.
We've just seen the Sandin/Liljegren experiment in the top 4 while Muzzin and Holl are out and it's not pretty. It will get ugly with those options in the playoffs.


The way Holl has played this season, must upgrade him.
3rd pair is 3rd pair, injuries will always happen... its hockey.

No playing Sandin or Liljergen up is not the way I'd play it but welcome to cap world.
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