Yes please

I wouldn’t trade away Niemelä for a rd rental. He could be something special for Leafs in the future.

What a preposterous overpayment by Toronto

Severson isn't a rental.

I'm like 99.9% sure NJ would do that trade. I'm Also 99.9% sure that the Leafs wouldn't offer that deal

Oh, my bad. Still wouldn’t move him for anything at the moment.

You can add about 300% to your TO assessment. This is about 50% more than Chychrun will go for.

Yeah, but I've seen a lot of NJ fans say they need either Niemelä or Voit to trade Severson.

Does matter, this is a ridiculous price. This is the equivalent of 3 1st and likely 3 2nds. For a 2nd pair defenceman. This like 4 times what Muzzin cost and he is better than Severson.

Fans are always the best way to judge value. One of those same fans suggested Severson is worth Nylander in a 1 for 1. So really, are fans a good barometer for value?

Did I say anything to the contrary?

I've switched the proposal:



Damn Serverson (50% retained)



Topi Niemelä
Rodion Amirov
Justin Holl
2022 1st round pick (TOR)

I suppose not

Still too much. That's significantly more than Muzzin cost. That is the absolute best Jersey could hope for. The Muzzin return. A 1st and 2 B prospects. This is still a 2nd pair RD, a 1st and two top prospects for a 2nd pair RD. It's a grossly unfair trade

NJ also are retaining 50%

Doesn't matter, still way too much for what he's worth