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GM Game - New York Islanders

Créé par: rangersandislesfan
Équipe: 2017-18 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 31 mars 2017
Publié: 31 mars 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I am only making this because i want a GM Game team for 2017-18.

JT signed 7 year contract Jan 6, 2018. 10M per season.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
1650 000 $
1650 000 $
1650 000 $
1700 000 $
1750 000 $
1700 000 $
1850 000 $
1700 000 $
2900 000 $
22 125 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
1800 000 $
33 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
(D) Patrick, Nolan
3925 000 $
(D) Thomas, Robert
3875 000 $
(D) Fulcher, Kaden
3750 000 $
(D) Flower, Walter
3725 000 $
(D) Coskey, Cole
3725 000 $
(D) Mikhnin, Denis
3725 000 $
(D) Urakov, Kirill
3725 000 $
(D) Pachal, Brayden
3700 000 $
Pokka, Ville
31 100 000 $
Leipsic, Brendan
2850 000 $
2880 000 $
1700 000 $
33 500 000 $
Fontaine, Justin
2700 000 $
Bonino, Nick
54 000 000 $
Quenneville, David
3900 250 $
LoVerde, Vincent
1650 000 $
1900 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYI
  1. Emelin, Alexei
  2. Juulsen, Noah
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
2017 2nd round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Leddy, Nick
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2018 (NYI)
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (NYI)
3.
NYI
  1. Nielsen, Frans
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (DET)
DET
  1. Halák, Jaroslav
  2. Prince, Shane
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (NYI)
4.
TBL
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (NYI)
5.
NYI
    Datsyuk contract
    Ty Rattie
    Jeremy Morin
    ARI
    1. Kulemin, Nikolai
    2. Quine, Alan
    Détails additionnels:
    2017 5th
    2017 7th
    6.
    NYI
      2017 2nd (ARI)
      2017 4th (NYR)
      2017 7th (BOS)
      7.
      NYI
      1. Ericsson, Jonathan
      Détails additionnels:
      2017 2nd round pick
      Jake Virtanen
      8.
      9.
      NYI
      1. Kuraly, Sean
      2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2018 (BOS)
      Détails additionnels:
      2017 1st
      2017 3rd (Ottawa)
      10.
      NYI
      1. Rieder, Tobias
      Détails additionnels:
      Trade is with Philadelphia, who previously acquired Rieder.
      ARI
        Calvin De-Haan
        11.
        NYI
          1st 2017
          4th 2017
          DET
          1. Barzal, Mathew
          Détails additionnels:
          MTL 2nd 2017
          3rd 2017
          12.
          NYI
            Brendan Gaunce
            VAN
            1. Chimera, Jason
            2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (CHI)
            3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (DET)
            13.
            CAR
            1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2018 (NYI)
            Détails additionnels:
            OTT's 3rd round pick in 2017
            14.
            15.
            NYI
            1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (BOS)
            Détails additionnels:
            Ben Hutton
            BOS
            1. Ho-Sang, Joshua
            2. Strome, Ryan
            Détails additionnels:
            2017 2nd Arizona
            16.
            17.
            NYI
              5th SJS 2017
              1st rounder 2017
              NSH
              1. Rieder, Tobias
              Détails additionnels:
              Otto Koivula
              18.
              NYI
              1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (FLA)
              Détails additionnels:
              Kyle Rau
              Jared Boll
              Michael Sgarbossa
              Graham Black
              FLA
              1. Ladd, Andrew (2 750 000 $ retained)
              19.
              20.
              NYI
                2017 7th round pick
                COL
                  Rights to UFA Dennis Seidenberg
                  21.
                  NYI
                    Reece Scarlett
                    Chase Balisy
                    FLA
                    1. Emelin, Alexei
                    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (FLA)
                    22.
                    NYI
                      7th 2017 FLA
                      CAR
                        Petter Hansson
                        23.
                        STL
                        1. Beauvillier, Anthony
                        2. Nordström, Joakim
                        Détails additionnels:
                        2nd 2017 MTL
                        24.
                        25.
                        NYI
                        1. Smith, Trevor
                        2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2018 (NSH)
                        26.
                        NYI
                          Dion Phaneuf, SJS 3rd 2019, Emile Poirier
                          27.
                          28.
                          NYI
                          1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (SJS)
                          SJS
                          29.
                          30.
                          NYI
                            Stefan Noesen
                            NJD 2nd 2017
                            NJD
                            1. Virtanen, Jake
                            2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (SJS)
                            Détails additionnels:
                            NYI 2nd 2017
                            FLA 3rd 2017
                            NSH 5th 2017
                            31.
                            NYI
                              Rights to UFA Scottie Upshall
                              CBJ 4th 2017
                              STL
                                DET 4th 2017
                                32.
                                NYI
                                  CHI 5th 2017, Oduya rights
                                  CHI
                                    CBJ 4th 2017
                                    33.
                                    NYI
                                      2017 6th PIT
                                      2017 6th CBJ
                                      2017 6th NJD
                                      2017 6th ANA
                                      2017 6th DAL
                                      2017 6th FLA
                                      2018 6th SJS
                                      NSH
                                      1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (NYI)
                                      34.
                                      NYI
                                      1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
                                      SJS
                                      35.
                                      NYI
                                      1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (MIN)
                                      MIN
                                      1. Phaneuf, Dion (3 500 000 $ retained)
                                      36.
                                      CHI
                                        2017 6th NJD
                                        2017 6th FLA
                                        37.
                                        NYI
                                        1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (ANA)
                                        Détails additionnels:
                                        John Dahlstrom
                                        Brian Campbell UFA rights
                                        CHI
                                          FLA 2017 7th
                                          BOS 2017 7th
                                          38.
                                          NYI
                                            4th round pick in 2018 (Unknown)
                                            VGK
                                              NYR's 4th round pick in 2017
                                              Note: The Vegas Golden Knights drafted Brady Lyle with this pick which was acquired in a trade involving Casey Cizikas going to the Islanders, which broke the rules. The trade was undone, meaning the league decided that the New York Islanders would acquire a 4th round pick in 2018 from the Golden Knights. Which pick it is is still unknown.
                                              39.
                                              NYI
                                              1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
                                              SJS
                                                I am getting the pick from Vegas. Read post above for details.
                                                40.
                                                41.
                                                NYI
                                                  Ville Pokka
                                                  Brian Dumoulin
                                                  Colin Wilson
                                                  VAN
                                                  1. Hutton, Ben
                                                  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (BOS)
                                                  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2018 (NSH)
                                                  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (NYI)
                                                  42.
                                                  43.
                                                  NYI
                                                  1. Weber, Shea
                                                  Détails additionnels:
                                                  Mason Geertsen
                                                  BOS 7th 2019
                                                  MTL
                                                  1. Dumoulin, Brian
                                                  2. Lee, Anders
                                                  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (MIN)
                                                  Détails additionnels:
                                                  Trade is with Florida, not Montreal.
                                                  44.
                                                  45.
                                                  NYI
                                                  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (BOS)
                                                  BOS
                                                  46.
                                                  NYI
                                                  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
                                                  47.
                                                  NYI
                                                    MTL 1st 18
                                                    Brendan Leipsic
                                                    Travis Dermott
                                                    PIT
                                                    1. Weber, Shea (3 928 571 $ retained)
                                                    2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2018 (BOS)
                                                    48.
                                                    49.
                                                    NYI
                                                    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (MTL)
                                                    MTL
                                                    50.
                                                    NYI
                                                    1. Enström, Toby
                                                    Détails additionnels:
                                                    Trade is with Florida, not Winnipeg.
                                                    WPG
                                                    1. Grabovski, Mikhail
                                                    2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (NYI)
                                                    51.
                                                    NYI
                                                    1. Grabner, Michael
                                                    Détails additionnels:
                                                    Jay Bouwmeester
                                                    NYR
                                                    1. Enström, Toby
                                                    2. Wilson, Colin
                                                    3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (ANA)
                                                    52.
                                                    53.
                                                    NYI
                                                      The 2 trades before this are the same trade, and it's with Colorado, not NYR or WPG ... i got Grabner and Bouwmeester from the Avalanche.
                                                      COL
                                                      54.
                                                      NYI
                                                        I don't want to have to remove that trade ... i meant it is not with NYR or STL ... though it isn't with WPG either. It's with COL.
                                                        STL
                                                        55.
                                                        56.
                                                        NYI
                                                        1. McAvoy, Charlie
                                                        2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (BOS)
                                                        Détails additionnels:
                                                        DET 7th 2018
                                                        Jakub Vrana
                                                        BOS
                                                        1. (D) Patrick, Nolan
                                                        57.
                                                        NYI
                                                        1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2018 (DET)
                                                        CGY
                                                        58.
                                                        59.
                                                        NYI
                                                          Hudson Fasching
                                                          NYI 2nd 2018
                                                          BOS 1st 2018
                                                          PHI 7th 2020
                                                          DAL 3rd 2018
                                                          60.
                                                          NYI
                                                          1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (DAL)
                                                          DAL
                                                          61.
                                                          NYI
                                                          1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (PHI)
                                                          PHI
                                                          62.
                                                          NYI
                                                          1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (BOS)
                                                          BOS
                                                          63.
                                                          64.
                                                          NYI
                                                            Bobrovsky
                                                            2017 3rd FLA

                                                            this was between Bobrovsky for nothing and Beauvillier, Nordstrom, and 2nd MTL for Steen. Had to undo the trade.
                                                            FLA
                                                            1. Condra, Erik
                                                            2. Pulock, Ryan
                                                            3. Wotherspoon, Parker
                                                            Détails additionnels:
                                                            Patrick Wiercoch
                                                            John Quenneville
                                                            15th overall pick 2017
                                                            65.
                                                            NYI
                                                              John Quenneville
                                                              Patrick Wiercoch
                                                              1st overall


                                                              Was between Rau, Boll, Black, Sgarbossa, and FLA 2nd 2020 for Ladd and Koivula and Rieder for SJS 5th 2017 and a 2017 1st, had to undo the trade
                                                              NJD
                                                              1. Dal Colle, Michael
                                                              2. Juulsen, Noah
                                                              3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (NYI)
                                                              Détails additionnels:
                                                              Kieffer Bellows
                                                              2018 2nd NYI
                                                              BOS, DET, and NSH 1sts 2017
                                                              66.
                                                              NYI
                                                                don't think i got rid of him here, not sure why ... hard to explain

                                                                trade not with vegas, just any team, not actual trade.
                                                                67.
                                                                NYI
                                                                  2018 2nd NYI
                                                                  PIT
                                                                  68.
                                                                  NYI
                                                                  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (NJD)
                                                                  Détails additionnels:
                                                                  part of trade when i first got McAvoy
                                                                  NJD
                                                                  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2018 (DET)
                                                                  69.
                                                                  NYI
                                                                  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2018 (WPG)
                                                                  Détails additionnels:
                                                                  Trade is with Pittsburgh, not Winnipeg
                                                                  70.
                                                                  NYI
                                                                  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (BOS)
                                                                  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
                                                                  Détails additionnels:
                                                                  Drew Doughty
                                                                  MIN 2nd 2018
                                                                  NSH 5th 2020
                                                                  71.
                                                                  72.
                                                                  NYI
                                                                  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (NSH)
                                                                  NSH
                                                                  73.
                                                                  NYI
                                                                  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (MIN)
                                                                  ARI
                                                                  74.
                                                                  NYI
                                                                  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (FLA)
                                                                  FLA
                                                                  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (BOS)
                                                                  75.
                                                                  NYI
                                                                  1. Demers, Jason
                                                                  Détails additionnels:
                                                                  Trade is with Edmonton, not Arizona
                                                                  ARI
                                                                  1. Pelech, Adam
                                                                  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (BOS)
                                                                  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
                                                                  76.
                                                                  NYI
                                                                  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (STL)
                                                                  Détails additionnels:
                                                                  Mattias Ekholm
                                                                  STL
                                                                  1. Dermott, Travis
                                                                  2. Gaunce, Brendan
                                                                  3. Greene, Matt
                                                                  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (NYI)
                                                                  77.
                                                                  Rachats de contrats
                                                                  Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
                                                                  Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
                                                                  2018
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                                                                  Logo de NYI
                                                                  Logo de MIN
                                                                  Logo de SJS
                                                                  Logo de BOS
                                                                  Logo de NYI
                                                                  Logo de WPG
                                                                  Logo de SJS
                                                                  2019
                                                                  Logo de NYI
                                                                  Logo de FLA
                                                                  Logo de NYI
                                                                  Logo de NYI
                                                                  Logo de NYI
                                                                  Logo de BOS
                                                                  2020
                                                                  Logo de NYI
                                                                  Logo de NYI
                                                                  Logo de NYI
                                                                  Logo de NYI
                                                                  Logo de NSH
                                                                  Logo de NYI
                                                                  Logo de STL
                                                                  Logo de BOS
                                                                  Logo de PHI
                                                                  Logo de NJD
                                                                  TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
                                                                  2576 000 000 $73 942 321 $0 $637 500 $2 057 679 $
                                                                  Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
                                                                  5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
                                                                  AG, AD, C
                                                                  NTC
                                                                  UFA - 4
                                                                  5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
                                                                  C, AG
                                                                  M-NTC, NMC
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
                                                                  AG, AD
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
                                                                  C, AG
                                                                  NMC
                                                                  UFA - 5
                                                                  900 000 $900 000 $
                                                                  AD
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
                                                                  AG, AD
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  Bonino, Nick
                                                                  4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
                                                                  800 000 $800 000 $
                                                                  AG, AD
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  700 000 $700 000 $
                                                                  C
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  808 750 $808 750 $
                                                                  C, AG
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
                                                                  AD
                                                                  UFA - 5
                                                                  Leipsic, Brendan
                                                                  850 000 $850 000 $
                                                                  880 000 $880 000 $
                                                                  C, AG
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  612 500 $612 500 $
                                                                  C
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  Fontaine, Justin
                                                                  700 000 $700 000 $
                                                                  925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
                                                                  AD
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
                                                                  3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
                                                                  DG/DD
                                                                  UFA - 5
                                                                  7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
                                                                  DD
                                                                  UFA - 2
                                                                  7 425 000 $7 425 000 $
                                                                  G
                                                                  NMC
                                                                  UFA - 2
                                                                  2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
                                                                  DG
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  3 937 500 $3 937 500 $
                                                                  DD
                                                                  M-NTC
                                                                  UFA - 4
                                                                  650 000 $650 000 $
                                                                  G
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  750 000 $750 000 $
                                                                  DG
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  625 000 $625 000 $
                                                                  DD
                                                                  UFA - 1
                                                                  Pokka, Ville
                                                                  1 100 000 $1 100 000 $

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                                                                  26 mai 2018 à 22 h 54
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                                                                  Quoting: matt59
                                                                  The Advanced Stats Bible (Okay not really but it's still good info)

                                                                  So Rangers, I'm going to try and explain a.) what those fancy stats mean, and b.) how to contextualize them and be able to gain valuable information from the statistics.

                                                                  First let's cover the one thing about statistics. They are NOT the end all be all in determining who's a good player and who's not. As someone who loves to use advanced stats, you always have to take a grain of salt with them if you don't dig deeper into the player. Personally I try and use a 50-50 split of eye test and statistics, because neither tell the full story by itself imo.

                                                                  Now to the actual info part...
                                                                  So I'll start with definitions and explain each term in a later paragraph. The main ones you mentioned were Corsi and Fenwick. Corsi is a measure of ALL shot attempts for and against. This includes shots that are blocked, miss the net, hit the post, go in the net, are saved, etc. So a team with a Corsi For of 60 would have had 60 shot attempts of any type. If that same team has a Corsi Against of 40, that means their Corsi For percentage is 60% and they theoretically are controlling play. Fenwick is a measure of unblocked shot attempts, so it's basically a small variation of Corsi. Fenwick points are measured the same way as Corsi, just that blocked shots DO NOT count as Fenwick points. Overall the stats are fairly similar, just some minor differences between the two.

                                                                  Now I'll try and contextualize what can be determined from these stats. So in general, Corsi and Fenwick are better served as team statistics. If you look at strictly an individual player's Corsi and Fenwick stats, those numbers may be padded or hurt by their linemates or the system they play under (Ex: players on Boston and Los Angeles always have sparkling Corsi Stats usually because of the coaches systems of puck possession. If you trade those players to another team with different philosophy, they'll struggle probably). However, you can use the Corsi Relative stat to get a good idea of how a player impacts the others on their team. NaturalStatTrick has a entire system where you can see a player's Corsi relative stats with their teammates. A positive Corsi Relative amongst most teammates shows that the player has a general positive effect on their teammates performance. A negative Corsi Relative amongst most teammates shows that the player tends to have a negative effect on their teammates performance. If there's a mixed bag of positive and negative CR percentages... well there's not much you can learn from that.

                                                                  Corsi and Fenwick also fail to account for players who have their minutes sheltered. There's a good example of this in Columbus. Sam Gagner had sparkling advanced stats this past year. He also put up 50 points. Some would say that makes him a top 6 guy. However, the stats fail to tell the whole story. If you dig deeper into the numbers, you find that Gagner got 4th line minutes at 5 on 5 and played a lot of power play time. That shows his minutes and matchups are very sheltered. He can dominate lesser competition, but against good players he is exposed. Overall, I've learned from this that Gagner is a good player and can be very productive BUT his minutes have to be managed properly and he can't be expected to play a top role. This is something that both the eye test and an in depth stats look can tell you. Lesson here is that you ALWAYS have to look into the usage, deployment, and compare that to the advanced stats before you can think of drawing a conclusion on a player.

                                                                  This goes the other way too... not to trash on your guy Dan Girardi but he's kind of the poster child for this. Girardi gets heavy minutes but his advanced stats are very poor at best. This tells me a few things. One, Girardi is being played over his head. He is being given high end minutes of like top 4 caliber. Paired typically with Ryan McDonagh, a top end D man, he still struggles to put up even mediocre numbers. This tells me that Girardi, when sheltered, is probably a good player; however, his minutes must be sheltered. The fact he gets hung end minutes but produced low end results shows that. Again, lesson here is that you have to dig behind the numbers to get good and useful information.

                                                                  Another thing about Corsi and Fenwick. They DO NOT place any emphasis on shot selection or danger. So a single shot from center ice counts the same as a single shot from the slot. That's one big detractor of Corsi/ Fenwick and why it's a stat that is better for looking at the big picture NOT for getting good small snapshots. Personally, scoring chances is a better stat for determining who has played better/ is the better team. Scoring chances is a stat that take shot quality into account. Thus a shot from the blue line is far more meaningless than a chance from the slot. And over time, a player or team getting more quality chances than the opponent has a better chance to win and is likely the better team/player.

                                                                  As a note on this, the HERO Charts I mentioned before are very helpful because they lump all this info into one chart. They show what percentile the player ranks in time on ice (which tells you about their deployment and whether or not they've been sheltered) and they also show the shot metrics (Corsi for and against) as well as their Goal scoring and primary assist counts. It's a good one stop shop if you're trying to get info quickly. If you have questions about how to read a Hero chart, let me know and I'll get to that tomorrow.

                                                                  So in conclusion, advanced stats are a good way to get a snapshot of player's capabilities; however, they sometimes do not tell the full story. That's where you have to go the extra mile and do some in depth research to look behind the conventional advanced stats to contextualize them. If you still have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll answer them in the morning cause it's very late right now lol


                                                                  Girardi + sheltered minutes = decent

                                                                  you were right...
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                                                                  26 mai 2018 à 23 h 5
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                                                                  Quoting: BoltsPoint21
                                                                  Girardi + sheltered minutes = decent

                                                                  you were right...

                                                                  I’m truly amazed this was dug up
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                                                                  26 mai 2018 à 23 h 6
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                                                                  Quoting: matt59
                                                                  I’m truly amazed this was dug up


                                                                  haha I was bored and reading through the GM Game Master Thread and this came up after one of the dramafests...
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                                                                  3 sept. 2018 à 13 h 25
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                                                                  3 sept. 2018 à 14 h 50
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                                                                  I see it
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                                                                  3 sept. 2018 à 18 h 21
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                                                                  I see it


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                                                                  Just posting here cause it's an old thread.
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